Have the bots won?

onibubu

Yes

Iseke wrote: »

There are no bots at all in the veteran content, so nope they don't win.

On the downside there are almost no players in the Veteran Content....

Lodestar

Yes

randomriffyrocksprerb18_ESO wrote: »

If they win and we lost, then people would not play ESO anymore. If people don't play ESO anymore, then the bots will have nobody to sell gold to. Hence if they win, they will also lose.

I'd say the battle is in moratorium, since both bots and players still exist

This is very true, but, it is also true of any type of "leeching" for personal gain type of activity. This is why the environment is in such a state world wide, and the bankers caused collapse and still carry on.

The short term fix is all they are looking for.

jambam817_ESO wrote: »

i trained a Bull Netch on a bot who got stuck on a cliff. It was funny cuz they died

You been doing things like that too eh?

Reenlister

No

I voted no, but simply because, as someone else has said, the war is not over. It does look bleak at times, and feels like the current battle is against the player, but the war is still ongoing...

Arsvita

Yes

zaria wrote: »

teox76 wrote: »

To all the people for which "I do not see many of them = So it's a non-issue": the huge problem is really that. The game client is so unsecured and hackable that bots can run at such a speed, fly, teleport or be underground that you don't even see them. What you see it's the node you were harvesting disappearing tough. What you (don't) see are the resources you are no more able to gather (I haven't seen an Aspect rune in ages).

Then why are we seeing bot trains as they are so fast we can not see them?
Why do we see bots doing stupid things like running against a rock if they can teleport? why don't they have 100k damage and health and why is this not used by cheating players? Why do we see bots who harvest if they are underground?

No reason to create imaginary bots. Nodes disappear because of phasing bugs, yes it can be an bot in another phase, however they happen inside cities to next to crafting stations, hardly an good place for bots to farm.

LOLZ, You Soooo Funny, or feeling put out?

There are so many bots of various methods, means, and "jobs" that they do that you should see trains of them.

Bots that kill spawns, only. And this type I have seen (and do have screenshotsss) running against a low wall becuase the mob they killed was on the ridge. They jumped and jumped and jumped, but never once went to the right a dozen paces to take the ramp up.

Heck, they love Dreughside and hunt all the Dreugh they can find. As for dps output, can't say, but many are low level. I got a screenshot of one there yesterday that was level 4 and still in "prison' garb.

There are others that were camping dungeon bosses and now just run around the dungeons looting and killing everything (including bosses) leaving the place looking like it was scoured by the locust they are.

As for the Majority they are and always have been Harvester Bots. Here is where they use their speed, teleporting, submariner, and flying tactics to name most.

Those nodes you "claim" are disappearing because they are "phased", bull, smoke, and screen. Look down and see that bots name in red most of the time, if you are quick you can even get ... SCREESHOTS, before they either walk, speed, or teleport off underground.

Your claim to "create[ing] imaginary bots" sounds like the defense of one called out when the act was watched across the instances, phases, and all of Tamriel by the majority of eye witness and "photo journalist" with screenshot proof of the crimes in the making.

That you claim to not see them, and that they are imaginary, when they stampede in trains and leave bot foot prints up and down some poor GM called out for half an hour ...

No offense to the poor GMs, I know they try, and many botters may have some timers or minimal attention span while they barter in chat, .com stores, and set prices in guild stores.

fiachsidhe

"Won" implies finality. Combating botters is an ongoing thing.

fredarbonab14_ESO

No

Drama thread. I hope the bots 'win'; win what btw? GO BOTS!

DanteYoda

Yes

I think the No's are either in denial or are running the bots....the amount of no's tells me its the latter.

kurrinni

Yes

often see teleporting bots in starting clothes zipping around the zone ganking me nodes before I can get to them

Ironman

Yes

The no votes are probably spammers

VlVEC

Yes

Every time I get on I have 3 mails from scammers/gold sellers.

phairdon

No

Needed an unsure vote option. I am seeing them on more maps now & the bots are also leveling as you now see level 29 bots running around in their soul shriven clothing.
The only occasions bots became a nuisance for me are when grouped on dungeon bosses or essential quest npc, killing as soon as they spawn.

claudius_Dark

No

Why couldn't we have to solve a word jumble every time we log into our account?

DanteYoda

Yes

fredarbonab14_ESO wrote: »

Drama thread. I hope the bots 'win'; win what btw? GO BOTS!

I always preferred Transformers myself.

Phantorang

No

claudius_Dark wrote: »

Why couldn't we have to solve a word jumble every time we log into our account?

If it would help us get rid of the bots, I agree, I would even agree to solve a word jumble every hour if thats the price we would have to pay to get rid of the bots.

Or give the players the ability to send other players a word jumble they had to solve, max once an hour or something, to those we think are bots, we would have to solve it within a certain amount of time

Karm2865

Yes

yes the Bots are winning the Dev's and Moderators are way behind on this one sure other games have them but nowhere near this level.
something needs to happen sooner the better if not for the heavy cash investment i already have in the game i would be gone. to many other MMO's out there

ers101284b14_ESO

No

With each maintenance I'm seeing fewer and fewer bots and spammers. But bitter are like the IRA they have never bee beaten but they have never really won either.

TheGrandAlliance

Yes

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

With each maintenance I'm seeing fewer and fewer bots and spammers. But bitter are like the IRA they have never bee beaten but they have never really won either.

No... they have won thats why you see less of them. They are taking their USD they got and are running to (Wildstar) next game now. As player population of ESO goes down (and the demand for gold) so does the Goldsellers.

ers101284b14_ESO

No

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

With each maintenance I'm seeing fewer and fewer bots and spammers. But bitter are like the IRA they have never bee beaten but they have never really won either.

No... they have won thats why you see less of them. They are taking their USD they got and are running to (Wildstar) next game now. As player population of ESO goes down (and the demand for gold) so does the Goldsellers.

And where are your numbers to prove this? I don't doubt wild star will be successful since most of the people here can't be bothered with actual combat mechanics or anything harder than pressing "1".


Yes I did try the wild star beta and got to level 12 by only using my 1 attack skill and never died. If that's what people consider a good game ill take this piece of crap any day.

david271749

Yes

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

With each maintenance I'm seeing fewer and fewer bots and spammers. But bitter are like the IRA they have never bee beaten but they have never really won either.

No... they have won thats why you see less of them. They are taking their USD they got and are running to (Wildstar) next game now. As player population of ESO goes down (and the demand for gold) so does the Goldsellers.

It's sad, but I can't wait for Wildstar just for this reason.

KhajiitiLizard

No

(I voted no like a few days ago. However my views have changed)

I thought the bots were the largest thing ruining this game, but now I think it might be Zenimax Online are doing the most harm, unless the difficulty of VR zones is put back how it was.

zaria

onibubu wrote: »

Iseke wrote: »

There are no bots at all in the veteran content, so nope they don't win.

On the downside there are almost no players in the Veteran Content....

Plenty of players in VR zones, perhaps some is less populated than other.

Main reason why bots in VR is rare is that you have to play some time to get up into VR making it more expensive to create VR bots, as bots are rare they will also be reported far more often making it pretty risky.

And I have seen bots in VR1, they wiped trying to farm, it was good entertainment.

TheGrandAlliance

Yes

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

And where are your numbers to prove this? I don't doubt wild star will be successful since most of the people here can't be bothered with actual combat mechanics or anything harder than pressing "1".


Yes I did try the wild star beta and got to level 12 by only using my 1 attack skill and never died. If that's what people consider a good game ill take this piece of crap any day.

1. Never said Wildstar was good. Rather that the "ability to pay for ur sub using in game gold" is automatic hotbead for goldspammers.

2. Where do I get my numbers from? Have you been in low lvl public dungeons/zones? IDK about NA side but EU side I haven't seen nearly as many bots as before.

JoyEnergiser

No

DanteYoda wrote: »

I think the No's are either in denial or are running the bots....the amount of no's tells me its the latter.

Cute, trying to backup your dramatic little perspective with an accusation.If bots have 'won' then this game that we like so much(you do like this game right, otherwise why are you playing it? 0.o) has been made unplayable and the developers have lost control.

NEITHER of that has occured, the bot's are not game breaking, they are an irritation.


[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

TheGrandAlliance

Yes

@JoyEnergiser‌

Yes. They did "win". They got their gold, disrupted the economy, the ability to enjoy leveling up in first 2 months, and "got in the way".


So yes they did win. People voting "no" indeed the bots.

ers101284b14_ESO

No

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

And where are your numbers to prove this? I don't doubt wild star will be successful since most of the people here can't be bothered with actual combat mechanics or anything harder than pressing "1".


Yes I did try the wild star beta and got to level 12 by only using my 1 attack skill and never died. If that's what people consider a good game ill take this piece of crap any day.

1. Never said Wildstar was good. Rather that the "ability to pay for ur sub using in game gold" is automatic hotbead for goldspammers.

2. Where do I get my numbers from? Have you been in low lvl public dungeons/zones? IDK about NA side but EU side I haven't seen nearly as many bots as before.

1. I agree and people who think wild star isn't going to have bots make me laugh.

2. No like most people once I'm done with content I move on. I think the bots are still trying in this game because its still popular despite all the hate but they will try in wild star also. But the fact that there are less proves they haven't won but the fact that they will always be there means they haven't lost either.

TheGrandAlliance

Yes

...as long as bots make money they "have already won".

mitumatu

No

david271749 wrote: »

Feel free to explain why you voted yes or no below.

It did get absolutely silly at a point but can honestly say i dont see as many now especially at solo dungians, dont see campers anymore. At one point i stood in a building by an npc for 15min and watched chars spawn in and out some fly through the building some spawn in, crouch and spawn out, counted close to 100 in the time all wearing starter gear, not noticed this for some time now. Gold spammers made me ignore chat window all together. As for Bots in the world i personally can say that i was losing the feel for the enviroment, not able to maintain a feeling of being apart of the enviroment because of these idiots. I cannot immerse myself in a world that has these type of problems, seriously its a killer. As for have they won, "No" i am encouraged and can see things are being done.

skarvika

Yes

They nerfed boss spawn farming. This hurt the players. They nerfed motif drops. Again, this hurt the players.
I still see bots running around and I still get spam mail daily. Nothing has changed much.

Takanami

Yes

I genuinely don't think Zenimax have any solutions for the future so yes.
These bot trains are growing more and more, reporting them is pointless as another set just reappears a day later.
Ive seen so many teleporters stealing nodes in the last 2 days its scary.

I really thought people were exaggerating

Phantorang

No

onibubu wrote: »

Iseke wrote: »

There are no bots at all in the veteran content, so nope they don't win.

On the downside there are almost no players in the Veteran Content....

There are players everywhere! Unless you look behind rocks, im not sure how you can come up with such a statement.