So when IS craglorn coming out?

Akuydab14_ESO

Apparently you guys tweeted that Craglorn would be coming out this tuesday, but then promptly removed it and said "We mistakenly tweeted". Why can't you even give us a release date? Not that it really matters, because it's just moreeeee leveling...

I mainly want the gameplay fixes, and Exclusive Fullscreen. Please tell me that If you're going to delay the content, you're at least giving us the technical improvements and bug fixes...

GossiTheDog

There's no time frame other than April (which was on the announcement press notes). Personally I think they shouldn't concentrate on it at all yet, and just focus on key bugs. The VR 10 players I've met in game have all exploited to get there anyway, so it's just rushing content for people who exploit the game.

Akuydab14_ESO

GossiTheDog wrote: »

There's no time frame other than April (which was on the announcement press notes). Personally I think they shouldn't concentrate on it at all yet, and just focus on key bugs. The VR 10 players I've met in game have all exploited to get there anyway, so it's just rushing content for people who exploit the game.

Well uh, you must not know many people then because alot of people are V10 who didn't exploit.... It's been over a month dude...

ZOS_JasonI

Hey there, @Akuydab14_ESO‌. We haven't announced the official release for Craglorn just yet, but rest assured, we'll make an announcement as soon as we can. To clarify, we have not delayed this content, but our tweet about the release was sent in error. We apologize for the confusion.

Also, keep in mind that the arrival of Craglorn will come with more than just our first Adventure Zone. You can expect many fixes and refinements to the game as part our first major content date. We hope you're looking forward to it!

Natjur

I just dinged V10 and just did the normal quests (no farming), some PVP (and quests there) and all the normal group dungeons and the odd vet one.

Its not hard to get to V10. Exp is too easy at the moment. There are tons of V10's in our guild and I finally caught up

GossiTheDog

Natjur wrote: »

I just dinged V10 and just did the normal quests (no farming), some PVP (and quests there) and all the normal group dungeons and the odd vet one.

Its not hard to get to V10. Exp is too easy at the moment. There are tons of V10's in our guild and I finally caught up

To be clear I'm not saying every single VR10 player exploited, I'm just saying my guild had VR10 players after a week basically.. I think most players would be fine with Craglorn waiting.

Dominulf

ZOS_JasonL wrote: »

To clarify, we have not delayed this content, but our tweet about the release was sent in error.

It's cool Jason. We know that the content won't come until after subscription time has ran out so that people can subscribe for another month to play the latest and greatest patch.

Daethz

I want 1.1 mainly for its non-craglorn related stuff at this point.
"EXP is too easy"? Bull, this isent EVE where it takes 6 years to achieve endgame.

Attorneyatlawl

Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »

GossiTheDog wrote: »

There's no time frame other than April (which was on the announcement press notes). Personally I think they shouldn't concentrate on it at all yet, and just focus on key bugs. The VR 10 players I've met in game have all exploited to get there anyway, so it's just rushing content for people who exploit the game.

Well uh, you must not know many people then because alot of people are V10 who didn't exploit.... It's been over a month dude...

I was gonna say, I know and am one of the many vr10 players who didn't use any type shape or form of glitch, exploit, or otherwise to hit vr10. I'm extremely anticheat in games online and have no tolerance for it. That all said, I hit vr1 on April 1st with no game plan and tons of wasted time, and vr10 around the 13th with having stopped trying at vr6 instead farming and pvping.

michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO

GossiTheDog wrote: »

The VR 10 players I've met in game have all exploited to get there anyway.

This is one of the biggest killers for me. Next to the shoddy servers, of course.

It completely destroyed PvP.

Beyond that, it ruined any integrity the game had, within the first two weeks of release.

Elder Scrolls Online will never live down this mistake.

Attorneyatlawl

michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »

GossiTheDog wrote: »

The VR 10 players I've met in game have all exploited to get there anyway.

This is one of the biggest killers for me. Next to the shoddy servers, of course.

It completely destroyed PvP.

Beyond that, it ruined any integrity the game had, within the first two weeks of release.

Elder Scrolls Online will never live down this mistake.

Except you are basing your opinion off of misinformation. Most did not exploit to get there, and it doesn't provide much benefit since the good sets are all vr6/below anyway or crafted. All Vr gives is gear and slightly increased stat caps plus weapon dmg. Learn more and you'll figure out it is not vr10 making you lose.

GossiTheDog

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »

GossiTheDog wrote: »

The VR 10 players I've met in game have all exploited to get there anyway.

This is one of the biggest killers for me. Next to the shoddy servers, of course.

It completely destroyed PvP.

Beyond that, it ruined any integrity the game had, within the first two weeks of release.

Elder Scrolls Online will never live down this mistake.

Except you are basing your opinion off of misinformation. Most did not exploit to get there, and it doesn't provide much benefit since the good sets are all vr6/below anyway or crafted. All Vr gives is gear and slightly increased stat caps plus weapon dmg. Learn more and you'll figure out it is not vr10 making you lose.

Did you see all the VR exploits around release? Some dungeons had a massive queue of people exploiting in them. Most of them have now been patched out. Even one of the biggest ESO fansites (which Zeni link to all the time online) reviewer said he exploited his way to VR10, to avoid grinding. It was an issue.

Attorneyatlawl

Again, the vocal minority of big mouth exploiters doesn't represent the playerbase at large. In fact this sort of person tends to love to brag and doesn't really know much about what they're doing.

Yes there were some in existence, no I doubt more than 1 percent if that did it, and I bet a tenth of those weren't banned already if that even.

And no, I didn't see all these exploits but I don't hang with that kind of crowd. It tends to be poor players that care to seek these things out and do them in the first place... It's stupid and wrong, cheating and against the rules, and I absolutely want every last cheater banned, but the high end crowd doesn't tend to ever even see or talk to these people since we're busy actually playing and achieving .

ShintaiDK

GossiTheDog wrote: »

There's no time frame other than April (which was on the announcement press notes). Personally I think they shouldn't concentrate on it at all yet, and just focus on key bugs. The VR 10 players I've met in game have all exploited to get there anyway, so it's just rushing content for people who exploit the game.

I am VR10, been it for quite a long time. No exploits. And I bet you 99.9% of all the other VR10 people didnt exploit. However envy is a bad thing.

Attorneyatlawl

ShintaiDK wrote: »

GossiTheDog wrote: »

There's no time frame other than April (which was on the announcement press notes). Personally I think they shouldn't concentrate on it at all yet, and just focus on key bugs. The VR 10 players I've met in game have all exploited to get there anyway, so it's just rushing content for people who exploit the game.

I am VR10, been it for quite a long time. No exploits. And I bet you 99.9% of all the other VR10 people didnt exploit. However envy is a bad thing.

Basically what I was getting at .

Phantax

ZOS_JasonL wrote: »

Hey there, @Akuydab14_ESO‌. We haven't announced the official release for Craglorn just yet, but rest assured, we'll make an announcement as soon as we can. To clarify, we have not delayed this content, but our tweet about the release was sent in error. We apologize for the confusion.

Also, keep in mind that the arrival of Craglorn will come with more than just our first Adventure Zone. You can expect many fixes and refinements to the game as part our first major content date. We hope you're looking forward to it!

So your tweets are like your customer service emails... all pre-done in advance, why does that not surprise me....lol

WylieCoyote1511

Can't wait for the new adventure zone full of bots!

ShintaiDK

WylieCoyote1511 wrote: »

Can't wait for the new adventure zone full of bots!

No bots in any VR zone. And the reason why is the requirement of the main quest lines.

Attorneyatlawl

ShintaiDK wrote: »

WylieCoyote1511 wrote: »

Can't wait for the new adventure zone full of bots!

No bots in any VR zone. And the reason why is the requirement of the main quest lines.

Plenty of people as intelligent as bots, but no bots indeed.

Carnage2K4

If you can max level a game in the week after release, when it takes normal players MONTHS, you have been exploiting something somewhere IMO.
And No I'm not envious, I prefer to play the game by enjoying the story and going at a easy pase with my friends in the time that I have to use each week.

Akuydab14_ESO

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

If you can max level a game in the week after release, when it takes normal players MONTHS, you have been exploiting something somewhere IMO.
And No I'm not envious, I prefer to play the game by enjoying the story and going at a easy pase with my friends in the time that I have to use each week.

Good thing it's been over four weeks then right kid? "When it takes normal players MONTHS" No, actually, that's called being a "casual" and leveling "slow". If it takes you MONTHS to get V10 in this game idk what to say...

Go ahead and do whatever you want bro, and us actual normal players will make threads like this... threads you can refrain from posting in please.

Carnage2K4

Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

If you can max level a game in the week after release, when it takes normal players MONTHS, you have been exploiting something somewhere IMO.
And No I'm not envious, I prefer to play the game by enjoying the story and going at a easy pase with my friends in the time that I have to use each week.

Good thing it's been over four weeks then right kid? "When it takes normal players MONTHS" No, actually, that's called being a "casual" and leveling "slow". If it takes you MONTHS to get V10 in this game idk what to say...

Go ahead and do whatever you want bro, and us actual normal players will make threads like this... threads you can refrain from posting in please.

Yeah, normal players, causal players, as in ppl that have a life beyond playing ESO for 16 hours a day, Do you bother with the story? Or do you rush through as fast as possible?
You likely don't know what to say as you lack the capability, what's truly ironic is using terms like "right kid", "bro" and making poor assumptions, like that "months" is not a plural, while making out like you have time for more then a 9th grade education.
Fact is a normal person has a job, or school, and only gets to play for maybe 2-3 hours a night, more on weekends. Smashing through content that is suppose to last 100 hours+ per alliance, and have it all done in a week or 2 (or less) is a sad waste of a game and your life. If you partake this this type of 'normal gaming' you have no place to cry about there being nothing to do.

Attorneyatlawl

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

If you can max level a game in the week after release, when it takes normal players MONTHS, you have been exploiting something somewhere IMO.
And No I'm not envious, I prefer to play the game by enjoying the story and going at a easy pase with my friends in the time that I have to use each week.

Good thing it's been over four weeks then right kid? "When it takes normal players MONTHS" No, actually, that's called being a "casual" and leveling "slow". If it takes you MONTHS to get V10 in this game idk what to say...

Go ahead and do whatever you want bro, and us actual normal players will make threads like this... threads you can refrain from posting in please.

Yeah, normal players, causal players, as in ppl that have a life beyond playing ESO for 16 hours a day, Do you bother with the story? Or do you rush through as fast as possible?
You likely don't know what to say as you lack the capability, what's truly ironic is using terms like "right kid", "bro" and making poor assumptions, like that "months" is not a plural, while making out like you have time for more then a 9th grade education.
Fact is a normal person has a job, or school, and only gets to play for maybe 2-3 hours a night, more on weekends. Smashing through content that is suppose to last 100 hours+ per alliance, and have it all done in a week or 2 (or less) is a sad waste of a game and your life. If you partake this this type of 'normal gaming' you have no place to cry about there being nothing to do.

Good thing it only takes about 30 hours per alliance which by your own numbers and descriptions is a normal persons playstyle! And that doesn't mean skipping everything. Also you do understand people enjoy games and different things differently right? Your 'mursion silliness is our tedium. Our number crunching and efficient gameplay for fun is your "rushing". Get over yourself and get a more open mind. And your hilarious argument of "life" is beyond glue at this point, both completely wrong and personally insulting. Argue the argument not the people. You only lessen your argument by resorting to name calling.

Wolfborn

I bet they will release it a couple of days before Wildstar release.

Carnage2K4

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

If you can max level a game in the week after release, when it takes normal players MONTHS, you have been exploiting something somewhere IMO.
And No I'm not envious, I prefer to play the game by enjoying the story and going at a easy pase with my friends in the time that I have to use each week.

Good thing it's been over four weeks then right kid? "When it takes normal players MONTHS" No, actually, that's called being a "casual" and leveling "slow". If it takes you MONTHS to get V10 in this game idk what to say...

Go ahead and do whatever you want bro, and us actual normal players will make threads like this... threads you can refrain from posting in please.

Yeah, normal players, causal players, as in ppl that have a life beyond playing ESO for 16 hours a day, Do you bother with the story? Or do you rush through as fast as possible?
You likely don't know what to say as you lack the capability, what's truly ironic is using terms like "right kid", "bro" and making poor assumptions, like that "months" is not a plural, while making out like you have time for more then a 9th grade education.
Fact is a normal person has a job, or school, and only gets to play for maybe 2-3 hours a night, more on weekends. Smashing through content that is suppose to last 100 hours+ per alliance, and have it all done in a week or 2 (or less) is a sad waste of a game and your life. If you partake this this type of 'normal gaming' you have no place to cry about there being nothing to do.

Good thing it only takes about 30 hours per alliance which by your own numbers and descriptions is a normal persons playstyle! And that doesn't mean skipping everything. Also you do understand people enjoy games and different things differently right? Your 'mursion silliness is our tedium. Our number crunching and efficient gameplay for fun is your "rushing". Get over yourself and get a more open mind. And your hilarious argument of "life" is beyond glue at this point, both completely wrong and personally insulting. Argue the argument not the people. You only lessen your argument by resorting to name calling.

I didn't say ppl don't enjoy playing like that, I said if you play like that, you have nothing to complain about when you run out of content.

Initial play testers took 150 hours to reach lvl 50, this is about the number Dev said it was going to be, TF players initially took about 144H, rushing took about 40... you can read the TF and reddit threads on it.

SO yeah you basically just showed that you smash through content at hyper speed if you're doing 30H, there is no way in hell you're listening to dialog, doing every little menial quest or taking time to craft and collect resources.

That is what normal players do, you're not playing normal, you're playing like a typical "must reach endgame as fast as possible, OMG there is nothing to do" MMO addict, not a regular gamer who has to put time into study and other things.

Again, you can play like that if you want, but to cry about not having more content when you choose to rip through it faster then the majority of players (yes you are actually a vocal minority, as most people to have a life and do take time to play the game) is the cry of someone who chooses not to play the game normally, and is hence crocodile tears.

Akuydab14_ESO

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

If you can max level a game in the week after release, when it takes normal players MONTHS, you have been exploiting something somewhere IMO.
And No I'm not envious, I prefer to play the game by enjoying the story and going at a easy pase with my friends in the time that I have to use each week.

Good thing it's been over four weeks then right kid? "When it takes normal players MONTHS" No, actually, that's called being a "casual" and leveling "slow". If it takes you MONTHS to get V10 in this game idk what to say...

Go ahead and do whatever you want bro, and us actual normal players will make threads like this... threads you can refrain from posting in please.

Yeah, normal players, causal players, as in ppl that have a life beyond playing ESO for 16 hours a day, Do you bother with the story? Or do you rush through as fast as possible?
You likely don't know what to say as you lack the capability, what's truly ironic is using terms like "right kid", "bro" and making poor assumptions, like that "months" is not a plural, while making out like you have time for more then a 9th grade education.
Fact is a normal person has a job, or school, and only gets to play for maybe 2-3 hours a night, more on weekends. Smashing through content that is suppose to last 100 hours+ per alliance, and have it all done in a week or 2 (or less) is a sad waste of a game and your life. If you partake this this type of 'normal gaming' you have no place to cry about there being nothing to do.

Good thing it only takes about 30 hours per alliance which by your own numbers and descriptions is a normal persons playstyle! And that doesn't mean skipping everything. Also you do understand people enjoy games and different things differently right? Your 'mursion silliness is our tedium. Our number crunching and efficient gameplay for fun is your "rushing". Get over yourself and get a more open mind. And your hilarious argument of "life" is beyond glue at this point, both completely wrong and personally insulting. Argue the argument not the people. You only lessen your argument by resorting to name calling.

I didn't say ppl don't enjoy playing like that, I said if you play like that, you have nothing to complain about when you run out of content.

Initial play testers took 150 hours to reach lvl 50, this is about the number Dev said it was going to be, TF players initially took about 144H, rushing took about 40... you can read the TF and reddit threads on it.

SO yeah you basically just showed that you smash through content at hyper speed if you're doing 30H, there is no way in hell you're listening to dialog, doing every little menial quest or taking time to craft and collect resources.

That is what normal players do, you're not playing normal, you're playing like a typical "must reach endgame as fast as possible, OMG there is nothing to do" MMO addict, not a regular gamer who has to put time into study and other things.

Again, you can play like that if you want, but to cry about not having more content when you choose to rip through it faster then the majority of players (yes you are actually a vocal minority, as most people to have a life and do take time to play the game) is the cry of someone who chooses not to play the game normally, and is hence crocodile tears.

Lol. This Carnage kid is hilarious. I read all my quests. I may not wait for all the dialogue, but I at least read the text. I'm sorry that Carnage is illiterate, but alot of people are, it's ok bro.

Your argument is horrible. 150 hours? So unless I spend 7 actual in-game days leveling (more If I stop to loot, pick up one resource, afk for 5 minutes to pee) I'm rushing and not a normal player. LOL. Smash through content at hyper speed? No, kid, you're just really, REALLY bad at leveling, and probably playing games in general. I wouldn't be surprised at all If you said this was your first MMO.

But like yea, no one CARES how you think the game should be played, no one CARES what you think, because it's obvious that you're pretty terrible, so laterade, I'm literally done talking at your dumb posts, and I hope Zenimax adds the ignore feature asap.

PS: My friend has been V10 for literally a week. You're so bad Carnagekid. Later, I'm not even looking sideways at this train-wrecked (by badkid carnage) post again.

Squishy

Well, to get "more xp", without walking as much back and forth, simply explore the map first. Gather all possibly quests you see. Once you have about 3/4 of the map or so (tagged all important locations, and dungeons), you can then head back to the first area, and do the quests in order, with very little to no walking back, except on longer story arcs. Many quests, will have a different start point, but have objectives in common areas between quests.

Under VR level, this is particularly good, because you're getting all XP exploration points, before leveling. As such, each location is a bit more worthy XP wise, than after you level up.

If you gather all quests, without actually doing them, you'll also be getting quests like " Go to X zone, because I heard something's happening", while after completing the quests, you'll get other quests directing you to other areas already visited, so just one shrine jump away.

That to me, is not exploiting, but simply reducing the amount of walking/horsing around .

I did this in Oblivion and Skyrim. I visited every single towns and villages before doing anything, just so I could fast travel there later if needed (not on my first play thru though, but when replaying it, much much much later).

In Teso, I assumed the same strategies would bare fruits, and indeed, fruits is bared. I hit VR9 last night, after spending sometime on my alts to fight naked and unarmed, and being interrupted by that horrible thing we call work everyday, and to my knowledge I've not exploited anything.

Ulvich

Why rush it? Look what happened last time things got rushed. Even if it takes another two months I'm fine with that.

Noswell

Squishy wrote: »

In Teso, I assumed the same strategies would bare fruits, and indeed, fruits is bared.

(Sorry couldn't resist)

Squishy

Thank you @Noswell, made Monday a bit more bearable

Ulvich wrote: »

Why rush it? Look what happened last time things got rushed. Even if it takes another two months I'm fine with that.

It's not really a question of rushing it. I just hate having to go back and forth, I like things done properly, in a semi organized fashion ^_^.

I do skip some dialogues, mostly when it's too predictable, or I already did that quest during beta/on an alt. With a few exceptions thou, sometimes, I just like to hear some dialogues again, because they are funny.

Dita

The usual Soon™ . Nothing new here, folks - move along. This isn't the game you looking for.