That Dual Wield bug...

EramTheLiar

I've read about the Dual Wield bug but I'd never actually encountered it until I started playing a Nightblade. For those unfamiliar with the bug in question, it's a combat glitch--for some reason the game doesn't recognize button presses, and it's a lot like one of the nastier stuns monsters can cast on you where you can't do anything (other than move). The workaround for this bug is to either hit escape twice (bringing up the menu, then returning to the game) or activating the "mouse release" key (usually the comma, I think) and then pressing it again.

The explanation I've heard about this bug that makes the most sense is that the game somehow thinks you've entered "free mouse" mode so it doesn't recognize button presses, and you have to force it to recognize you've re-entered a mouselook state before it starts working again.

I call it the"Dual Wield" bug because everyone seems to think it's exclusively a DW problem. I haven't seen it trigger when I play around with other weapons, so it does seem to be the case. For the longest time I thought it was actually a Nightblade+DW problem, because my sorcerer used DW without any issues at all... until today. But today I managed to trigger it, and the only thing I did differently was swap out one skill for another.

Normally I use Twin Slashes, morphed to the one that gives you a heal over time on top of the bleed effect ("Blood" something, can't remember the name). Twin Slashes doesn't work against undead, though, and keep running into them, so I decided I'd switch it out for Flurry, because the burst damage is significantly higher. And once I did that I started triggering this bug.

Twin Slashes: never triggered the problem.

Flurry: oh, look, there it is. Now I need to hit escape and oh wait nevermind I'm dead.

Has anyone else who encountered this bug noticed it with other skills? The only ones I've used are Twin Slashes, Flurry, and Whirlwind. My sorcerer has used Twin Slashes and Whirlwind quite a bit without triggering it, and it wasn't until he switched to Flurry that I noticed it.

Anyone notice if it's specific to Flurry? Or have they triggered it with other skills?

Bhakura

Rapid strikes or flurry is the culprit yes. Havent really seen on any other dual wield skill since never used anything else.
Its easy to counter though, the moment you dont hear the sound of the hits connecting to target you bugged out and you can esc twice while animation is in progress, theres no need to die

mips_winnt

EramTheLiar wrote: »

Anyone notice if it's specific to Flurry? Or have they triggered it with other skills?

I haven't seen it happen with any other dual wield skill except for flurry, so I believe your assessment is correct.

EramTheLiar

OK, good information to have.

My current hypothesis is that it happens if you drift out of range while the 1.5 second duration is still firing off. I'm going to test that later today. In a, um, lower-level area, because armor repair is expensive.

Thunder

My nightblade friend kept complaining of not being able to do anything when we were playing together the first few days after release. I figured he was doing something wrong. When I rolled up a nightblade the other day, right after I got flurry I started 'getting stunned', except I wasn't stunned as I could still move around, but the only way to get control back was to hit escape.

It was then that I realized he wasn't doing something wrong and something was bugged. Then a few hours later I run across this thread and concur that you are most likely correct in your assumption that is is flurry. I'm going to try to see if I can reproduce the bug to figure out just what triggers it.

Oronell

Ah, so its a bug. I was beginning to think it was a hardware problem. Thanks for the info.

randomriffyrocksprerb18_ESO

I thought this was going to be about the chance of sheathing your DW weapons on your back instead of on the sides of your waist. Cause that happened to me, and i dont know how to do it again

siuolly

I am a NB DW/Bow and I don't use Furry... however, I hit the unresponsive bug a lot both in PVP and PVE. Not certain what triggers it.

Gaudrath

Soul strike can also trigger this bug + the one where you move really really slowly. And the only way out of that one is to relog.