Loving VR Grind

Dustile

I love that the grind to VR 10 is monumental task. Reminds me of vanilla WoW. You know, when you used to see a level 60 and say to yourself, "Wow, a level 60" So sick of the "QQ, I wanna be level capped already waaahh." Go play something else where you can have every class max level in a month or two. I hope Zeni doesn't nerf the grind because of all the softies. =(

Laura

when I got to 10 I took a deep sigh, then smiled, then frowned because I realized this will most likely be the last time I will ever feel proud of maxing out a character in an MMO.

The days of feeling accomplished are dwindling. Well maybe pantheon will provide it too but i'd be surprised if that one ever came out.

Couldn't agree with you more.

Captainkrunch96

I agree completely. I heard a rumor that they were adding a x3 multiplier to VR points, which I hope isn't true as it would be a bad move for the games longevity. I dont want to be VR10 by the time I reach the VR8 zone.

JexTex

So grinding quests is a accomplishment for you...right....you do realize Veteran content is a huge mess right now...and you are in the minority. Actually VR content is going to harm the game in the long run but believe what you want.

Captainkrunch96

So all you want is to just play for 3 weeks and be endgame?

Dustile

JexTex wrote: »

So grinding quests is a accomplishment for you...right....you do realize Veteran content is a huge mess right now...and you are in the minority. Actually VR content is going to harm the game in the long run but believe what you want.

QQ

Wrong, completely. turning this game into every other game will cost you a core of subscribers. Not to mention you would no longer be filling a niche, you would be every other mmo out there and F2P within the year. The only reason I'm here is because this game is not every other mmo out there. people like you should stay in Warcraft if your looking for a casual game. Instead of expecting every new mmo you happen to pick up to bend to your will.

JexTex

lol i love you fanboys that just auto insert text...for one i never stated i wanted to be max level in 3 weeks so please move on...

Also did i say make the game like every other mmo NO...you sound absolutely dumb...i never once stated make the game easy lol man you fanboys really do drag your knuckles..;] Ive been playing mmo's for a long time so pleaee...

Your thread is getting no attention for a reason...also they just pushed back console launch...the game is a mess stop trying to be cool your not

LOL QUEST GRINDING IS CHALLENGING...PLEASE...NOTHING TO SEE HERE FANBOY ALERT!!!!!

stevenyaub16_ESO

Like someone else said. Since when is grinding looked at as an accomplishment.

Maybe its just me but it would give me the opposite feeling pride. (That time wasted...)

Well i completed all the zones/quests, but I made sure i enjoyed it. I listen to the npcs and go through dialogue, experiencing the story which i never saw people doing, but atleast i know my experience was not a waste of time. Shame the VR zones do not have the same weight the original faction does. Thats where most people are complaining, and i agree it wasn't the best move, but atleast i know what the whole game offers.

mail2zyddb16_ESO

Captainkrunch96 wrote: »

I agree completely. I heard a rumor that they were adding a x3 multiplier to VR points, which I hope isn't true as it would be a bad move for the games longevity. I dont want to be VR10 by the time I reach the VR8 zone.

I just started VR1 recently, some VR guides mention that if you power level you run out of content at around 7.5 VR and you gotta grind grind grind, so not sure if it's properly adjusted atm, adding x3 multiplier could be way too much though.

Mothanos

ESO already bleeding subs due to this dreadfull long solo exprience to V10.
Have fun when this game lost its member base due to this.
More power to you if you feel satifsfied with doing those quest grinding.
But keep in mind that its nothing more then a carrot on a stick design that many people dont want to pay for.

As already can be seen many people are leaving the game.
Free month is up and people got fed up with the no rewards for all that extra effort and requirement to be on par in pvp to be V10 and soon V12.
EU 1 campaign full at prime time and its getting worse and worse by every player hitting VR contend and /quit

Lets wait another month and do nothing about this horrible solo expirience called leveling.
Shoot me for being the bringer of bad news, but we all know its already happening......ESO is bleeding subs already 1 month after release...

ZiRM

ESO will keep losing subscribers and as soon as new subscribers realize they have 12+ VR to grind out after they hit level 50 they will unsubscribe. The exploiters are laughing and happy to play craglorn, they are saying...Thanks ZOS!

Tadhg_Longhouse

I am VR2 and I am enjoying the slow progress. I have more stable stats so I have some idea where I need to be focusing my gear on in regards to soft caps. As I have just hit 50 on both my main weapons (and most of my class skills) I am now also branching out to other weapons and trying a different playstyle.

It is only a grind if you choose to grind. It is journey and exploration if you take the time to make it so. If that doesn't suit you and you want to be VR10 now, you're likely going to burn out trying to get there.

GamePlayer7

There's nothing grindy at all about the VR content. Anyone who thinks it is a grind has never really played a grindy game, that goes for fanboys and haters alike.

Plenty of F2P Korean MMOs out there where you will run out of quests and be forced to grind mobs for hours just to eek out a smidgen of a level. That's a grind. Having numerous quests to do which provide xp the whole way isn't a grind. It may be somewhat time consuming, but it's not grinding.

The issue in my mind is that people were probably looking for something new at 50, something to change up the experience a bit, but what they got was more questing, (two factions worth of questing, in fact). That is probably why people are unhappy, more so than just the time commitment.

Anastasia

NiRN wrote: »

ESO will keep losing subscribers and as soon as new subscribers realize they have 12+ VR to grind out after they hit level 50 they will unsubscribe. The exploiters are laughing and happy to play craglorn, they are saying...Thanks ZOS!

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Oh? Its really far too bad we can't be a lil birdie on the wall and see the "KIND" of players that are unsubbing or not subbing any further.

Yes, we shall see. And I'm going to be lovin playing this game all the way to the last day of the live subscription, which I feel reasonably confident will extend for a good while, though I don't have a magic ball. I'll enjoy Zen's attention to squaring away the actual 'bugs', to their listening to customers and making some adjustments in the game while keeping to their ORIGINAL vision. Thats the vision I came here for. Its exactly why I subbed.

*Looks outside the forums in the direction of all the other players who just may have subbed to this game for its original vision as well...

Good journeys!

Cogo

I agree completely with the OP. I havnt "grinded" single second and always explore new things cause there is almost endless stuff to discover.

Sure, I am not among the first who hit 50....but if you think the game is about getting max level as fast as possible.....you bought the wrong game.

I subbed for 6 months. I am positive I will be here in a year!

Cogo

Tadhg_Longhouse wrote: »

I am VR2 and I am enjoying the slow progress. I have more stable stats so I have some idea where I need to be focusing my gear on in regards to soft caps. As I have just hit 50 on both my main weapons (and most of my class skills) I am now also branching out to other weapons and trying a different playstyle.

It is only a grind if you choose to grind. It is journey and exploration if you take the time to make it so. If that doesn't suit you and you want to be VR10 now, you're likely going to burn out trying to get there.

Very wise words. One can also add the slight detail that ESO IS NOT WOW!

Cogo

GamePlayer7 wrote: »

There's nothing grindy at all about the VR content. Anyone who thinks it is a grind has never really played a grindy game, that goes for fanboys and haters alike.

Plenty of F2P Korean MMOs out there where you will run out of quests and be forced to grind mobs for hours just to eek out a smidgen of a level. That's a grind. Having numerous quests to do which provide xp the whole way isn't a grind. It may be somewhat time consuming, but it's not grinding.

The issue in my mind is that people were probably looking for something new at 50, something to change up the experience a bit, but what they got was more questing, (two factions worth of questing, in fact). That is probably why people are unhappy, more so than just the time commitment.

You do know that at lvl 50, or if its Veteran 10, you can go to the two other alliances (still belong to yours) and do ALL the quests/exploring there.

They are also releasing the first 12 man instance (First raid)

Apricot

Anastasia wrote: »

Yes, we shall see. And I'm going to be lovin playing this game all the way to the last day of the live subscription, which I feel reasonably confident will extend for a good while, though I don't have a magic ball.

Yeah you and the three other guys left playing. Not that you'll notice the game's empty since you can't play with them anyway.

Enjoy your solitude.

Corithna

Captainkrunch96 wrote: »

I agree completely. I heard a rumor that they were adding a x3 multiplier to VR points, which I hope isn't true as it would be a bad move for the games longevity. I dont want to be VR10 by the time I reach the VR8 zone.

I think I know what you heard there and it wasn't about tripping the amount of VR points gained, it was a change in how many VR point you need once you get past VR 10 which from 1 to 10 doubles each time. So for VR 11 and 12 each one triples how much you need to ding.

TaffyIX

I'm personally enjoying the slower pace of levelling in the VR content.

I hope ZOS keep the levelling at its current rate (PvE wise at least) however am also happy they are going to be increasing XP gain within Cyrodiil for those players that prefer to level doing PvP rather.

Keep up the great work ZOS!

Mothanos

There are many people still smelling the roses and are in the honeymoon days.
Once reality sinks in how shallow this mmo realy is and people already left the game due to these VR solo expirience that contains around 95% of the game one can only say......goodbye Zenimax thanks for another boring themepark that adds nothing to the genre and a missed oppertunity to make WoW tremble and give it a run for the 1st time in a decade.

Zenimax should be proud to retain 500k subs at the end of this month, that is if they even sold that many boxes as we still havent seen any announcement that any other studio does when they reach 1 million or beyond.


Another themepark that had no clue how to create a mmo that blows any other themepark out of the water....

Arundo

Same here, I like the VR part of the game. I'm currently VR1 and almost VR2 and just did the starter island for AD and now halfway through Auridon. Like the fact that things are more difficult.

I have to watch where I go in the VR content as things can kill you rapidly if you run into the wrong group of mobs. Thats how end game stuff should feel like imo.

Mephos

currently at VR6 and loving the grind! .. however 5 of 6 of my friends that started playing this game stopped at level 50 and just told me that the grind is to mindless .. they just hate the whole "do 100rds of quests" thing. most of them just want to have increased XP for monsters so that you have a diversity between questing and grinding monsters.

sadly the same that happend to vanilla WoW will happen to this game. non hardcore gamers are the majority. majority pays. changes will be done that majority stays in the game. easy as that.

Yankee

I do not mind working on VR3 on my Sorc. I am finally doing zones/quests I have not done before. However, when I go back to my VR1 NB it will be tedious to go through the same content, not sure I will.

IMO they really do need to up the VP for mobs at least, and I predict they will. They should probably also raise the attribute softcap to let people be a little more powerful against the VR mobs.

The VR content will be too challenging and long for many people. Even those of us that do not mind the VR "grind" need to be concerned about having an empty world when we hit VR10+.

To stand on "principle" and leave VR the way it is will likely cost many subscriptions and I really want to have players (and guildies) at end game to group with.

Ulvich

I don't mind the grind all that much. It does give a feeling of accomplishment when I hit a new level. What bothers me is some of these bosses they expect us to solo. Some of them (not all) are a bit much for one person.

timothynrwb17_ESO

Subscriptions always bleed in every game after the first month - always. Then if the game has a core market it settles into that market.

ESO is a story driven questers game. I don't think it's a solo experience as there's quite a lot of group content that is challenging. But it is very strongly story and quest focussed as a game.

I'd say if you don't like questing you won't stay playing ESO. You're not the games core market.

People who like quests and story based RPing will still sub to ESO.

Edit: I have 2 vet level toons now - and loving them both ;p

JexTex

Mothanos wrote: »

There are many people still smelling the roses and are in the honeymoon days.
Once reality sinks in how shallow this mmo realy is and people already left the game due to these VR solo expirience that contains around 95% of the game one can only say......goodbye Zenimax thanks for another boring themepark that adds nothing to the genre and a missed oppertunity to make WoW tremble and give it a run for the 1st time in a decade.

Zenimax should be proud to retain 500k subs at the end of this month, that is if they even sold that many boxes as we still havent seen any announcement that any other studio does when they reach 1 million or beyond.


Another themepark that had no clue how to create a mmo that blows any other themepark out of the water....

;] they haven't even broke 500k copys sold apparently...yep simply not enough to support a sub based mmo..f2p in prly 8-12 months...I bet console releases f2p

frwinters_ESO

NiRN wrote: »

ESO will keep losing subscribers and as soon as new subscribers realize they have 12+ VR to grind out after they hit level 50 they will unsubscribe. The exploiters are laughing and happy to play craglorn, they are saying...Thanks ZOS!

your always so negative. Do you need a hug?

stevenpotter321b14_ESO

Well, I finally made it to VR 10 as a dual wield nightblade. It was rough going, I have a profound hatred of harvesters, trolls, and storm atronachs. I also have zero motivation to make an alt and go though all of this again, even if it were easier.

Memnock

I have to say , that at VR3 i am starting to get a bit frustrated going through the other factions without an actual main story that is directly related to my character and i am starting to understand why so many people said that the way the story ended at lvl 50 in Coldharbour and the way you are allowed to go through the rest of the factions kind of feels like a huge cheat to get you to sink more time into the game and at that point i think that the developers ideas for the character story ran dry , and they said : Hell lets just make them play the other factions on increased dificulty and skill the personal content altogether.

Story wise , that is the gripe i have with the game.

I mean , if this was supposed to be a story driven MMO , there should have been a character story that evolved with you the more you leveled and since the max level that you can obtain in the game is VR 10 , the character story should have ended at VR 10

As a last note , they really should have given all the classes a different story or at least a different path to take in order to complete it , because as it stands now , i have to say that there isn't much incentive for me to actually go and level a new character , since i will be going through the same stuff over again and this is further amplified by the fact that the VR content consists of the side quests of the other factions.

What i am trying to say with the above is that i don't mind the grind , as long as it actually has a meaningful story and it gets you invested , which this game does not after you get 1 character to max VR , unless of course you really really really love going through all 3 factions content and the same character story again and again.

dragnar12

this game gets *** not only by the vr grinding * thats awfull as *** )

but also vy the ( dont party @ all till vr 5 ) your solo solo solo solo forcced solo pice of wtf crap *** game

a mmo thats 15 usd a month and 90% of the content is solo < LOL

whats team ( pvp ) and dungeon < witch u do one,s to get all items and then are bored K LOL ''

wen u team up from lvl one be sure to comunicate witch way your awnsering the questions in the quest or be left out of sync YEAY >)