Imperial Sorcerer Archer Concern - Red Diamond - **answered**

Kyotee0071

EDIT - Answered from what I call a reliable source


Trying to find out if the Imperial Racial "Red Diamond" can proc it's heal off of bow attacks.

** I posted it here because it has an impact of my Sorcerer / Archer Class build. **

I've spent the last hour browsing over threads, searching here, google, youtube, and another forum I visit - yet I keep getting conflicting reports.

I know that there was a quote on reddit regarding the khajiit crit racial applying to bows, but I'm very uncertain about Red Diamond working with them.

Anyone have any confirmation that Red Diamond actually works off of bow attacks?

** If I overlooked a thread somewhere with an absolute answer please forgive me **

dodgehopper_ESO

The fact red diamond is meant for the sort of phalanx/turtle tactics involved in inperial tactics leads me to think it would not. I am curious if it works for bows as well, however. This is one reason i feel it preposterous that people complain about redgards and imperials. It is like being mad that altmer and bretons are awesome at magic, or that argonians receive better healing effects and potion usage, or that bosmer make good snipers.

Kyotee0071

@dodgehopper_ESO Yeah I have seen numerous conflicting reports stating it works with bows, and it doesn't.

Looking at the topic I see it could easily of been in the Racial Skill Line Forum as well. I posted it here because It has an effect on choice for playing a Sorcerer / Archer Class type. I'll most likely go breton though if Red Diamond is actually melee only.

As a sorcerer archer that racial heal would come in handy, and wouldn't force me to drain stamina to heal as often (hopefully).

Kyotee0071

Just an update and I believe an answer.

I was just told by a reliable source that Red Diamond does not work with bows.
He plays both an Imperial Dragon Knight and Imperial Nightblade, and does lots of testing.

I was told that "Red Diamond does not proc off of spells or range abilities. It procs off of pretty much any melee based ability of 8m or less, including numerous class skills that fall into that 8 m or less category."

I guess it means that if it's a stamina based melee type attack, or a class skill that benefits from melee crit (even if it used magicka as a resource like a lot of NB skills) and falls in the 8m or less range - Red Diamond can proc. But it will not proc off of staff skills and basic attacks, or any sort of bow attack, or any skill that goes off of Magicka Crit modifiers.

So there we go.

ZoS needs to do some major tooltip updating, and I'm sure they eventually will. But great tootips eliminate a ton of theorycrafting and confusion!