The Disappearance of Racial Motifs

Vixenator

Since the April 30 patch on the NA server, racial motifs have either disappeared altogether, or the drop rate is shredded into a tiny fraction of a drop rate that it once was.

I,and another player have sent emails of inquiries about this. I myself have now sent 5 emails in regard to this issue. The first email was answered in a playing dumb manner,the second email was replied to as if i sent an inquiry about a quest,the 3rd,4th and 5th email were ignored completely. The other player's email was also ignored.

I think it is safe to say they are ignoring the issue, and refuse to comment.

Other players of the community have noticed the disappearance as well, as I have spoken to three others about this.

Spreading the word as a last resort,seeing as this issue has fallen on deaf ears and we havent even received so much as an email in return with any insight or reason to this.

Balamir

I completely agree. This is outrageous. The drop chances of any purple or blue provisioning recipes is also affected. I dont understand what they are trying to achieve with this.

rtx

I've found only about 4 motifs after launch, while during early access I've found about 8.

Vixenator

Its not about launch or before launch. This is a very recent change that most players are unaware of yet. Its been going on for several days now.

LadyLothi

Yes, I've noticed that too, but cannot see why it would be an entirely bad thing.

I'm aware that it is a bit unfair to those who have not been there since early access, because players who come new to the game just now will probably have a much harder time acquiring any motifs at all.

But I, personally, found it ridiculous, that only after two weeks of playing I already had learned most of the "normal" racial motifs and only the rare ones to look forward to. Stuff like that should be harder in a game like this one.

I do not know, if they actually disappeared (which would be bad), but I can live with them being very, VERY rare.

Gisgo

I think they should be rare, crafters arent supposed to know all styles unless they played for a very long time (years).

SexyVette07

Ill make sure to buy up all the remaining cheap motifs, lol. Thanks for the heads up.

ArRashid

To me it seems that the drop chance was getting gradually lowered in every small patch..

All thanks to farmers, who still have full banks of motifs and they are now happily selling them to normal players for outrageous amounts of gold.

Since the drop rate cannot be increased (it's currently about ZERO. I haven't found a single motif in 2 weeks) without making people farm them, I guess
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/785537/
is the only "sane" solution to this plight..

just DON'T try another stupid countermeasure like "wait 10 minutes for another loot from boss" or so, that was completely *** - bots don't mind waiting 10 minutes, players DO. They just leave the solo dungeon really angry that nothing worthwhile dropped.

Balamir

I can partially agree that I would not mind grinding for motifs "years" but the fact that early veterans had access to it and now marketing is completely unfair. This is true for provisioning recipes too. If anyone find a purple vet 5 recipe please drop a line below. I found 1 before they nerfed it, now its impossible to get.

Audigy

I found two orc and one argonian and I play since early access. That said, I noticed that many chest´s and boxes inside of buildings are now empty / already open so that my chance to find something not only Motifs is very low.

I believe people with timers farm those all day..., at release and EA I always got something from these crates and cupboards but since about 2-3 weeks I almost never get anything except the usual lock pick and air.

militabloodmane

Yeah, I've noticed this too. As was mentioned, recipes suffered as well. Personally I am trying to collect as many recipes as I can. Since the end of April, I have spent a good 18 hours or so trying to get them. So far I have gotten a whopping total of 1....that's right. ONE.

From what I've noticed, it is a combination of reduced loot chance and the two systems of checking containers to see if they are empty. The first one is when you enter an area and a container either has loot or it is empty. The second one is when you loot a container and it turns up empty. This second system has increased dramatically since the patch. What used to be 1-2 per 50 looted containers is now 20-25 per 50. This in itself pretty much doubles the number of containers you need to loot to get anything good.

Seeing as there are about 1000 recipes in the game, it is going to take me quite a while to make any progress. I used to see about 3-5 motifs in the time it took me to find a blue or purple recipe. Now, I have no idea of the ratio but it is very very low.

Ariane

I don't have them all, yet I think they have to be "rare". If they weren't, everyone could craft all of them, so why anybody would buy or sell any crafted item?

Most people I know are leveling all crafting disciplines. There has to be something special that makes people want to trade or there won't be trade at all

SeñorCinco

They needed nerfed and rather badly. At least in the banks, if it could be isolated to nerfing those areas. I ran the bank in Auridon to get all of the racials for my Blacksmith.

I gave away 20 or more to my guildmates as these things were dropping from chests, backpacks, and shelves sometimes two at a time in a single pass. All over a week's time spending an hr each night.

I feel dirty about doing that kind of junk but I was fishing for a Bosmer Motif and when I only needed a Khajiit to have them all... I couldn't stop.

Adernath

I think they lowered the chances way too much. Since early access I found only 3 motifs (and I was looking in every wardrobe and nightstand).

Now 50% of these containers are already empty and on top of that the drop chances are probably lowered by a factor of 100??

Another win to all the bot farmers who can now make money -.- All normal players who have a life will never see a rare motif in the next 3 years.........

Elgarr

Lol so my 0 Motifs i have found since early access has now had its chance to find one reduced even further.
Oh well, 1% of zero is still /drum roll

wafffllesss

Found a Khajiit Motif yesterday, they're not removed. It's a nice thing they lowered the rates (and no, I do not know all motifs yet) Things like that should be rare to find.

randomriffyrocksprerb18_ESO

Well I dont think they changed anything. Its because people have now learned where to get such racial motifs that changed the game. The more the people knowing about where to get them the less chance of an individual getting a motif. The more people fishing in one spot, the less chance of you getting a fish. (Except in ESO, more people fishing in the same spot improves chance of getting a rare fish)

ayriennub17_ESO

I agree they lowered it to much. I have played through Vet. Bleakrock, Stonefalls and Deshan and have not found any of the rares yet. I wasn't expecting all of them by now, but one of the rares would be nice.

Lupinemw

Odd I haven't had any for ages and got 5 yesterday in a short run around the Vet stuff in the AD starter isle.

Misanthropy

Well, I was at the bank and decided to look into a desk upstairs, and I find the only container, a desk so I opened it up and found a daedric motif....

Malediktus

Misanthropy wrote: »

Well, I was at the bank and decided to look into a desk upstairs, and I find the only container, a desk so I opened it up and found a daedric motif....

Motifs still drop, but about 10x more rare as before.
Daedric motif also only drops in high veteran lvl zones I think.

Gilvoth

its supose to be rare and hard to find. if everyone has the skills to make all kinds armor then it ruins the whole concept.

Lupinemw

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

its supose to be rare and hard to find. if everyone has the skills to make all kinds armor then it ruins the whole concept.

No they have to have it all within 5 minutes of the game is picking on them

SadisticSavior

Vixenator wrote: »

Since the April 30 patch on the NA server, racial motifs have either disappeared altogether, or the drop rate is shredded into a tiny fraction of a drop rate that it once was.

LOL

I've gotten 2 since then. Got the Nords one over the weekend, and got my 2nd Orc one yesterday. Both via casual searching (meaning I did not go out of my way to grind it). I got the Nord one in the Daggerfall bank in a trunk for crissakes. The one right behind that betch who is always propagandizing money lenders.

People who are not getting them are either looking in the wrong places (have never seen one in a backpack or a normal sack for example) or are just not being persistent.

SadisticSavior

Balamir wrote: »

I completely agree. This is outrageous. The drop chances of any purple or blue provisioning recipes is also affected. I dont understand what they are trying to achieve with this.

I have gotten one of those as well. I am not even a provisioner. Purple alcoholic beverage recipe.

SadisticSavior

Malediktus wrote: »

Motifs still drop, but about 10x more rare as before.

I sure hope so. They were way too common IMO (and prices in chat reflected this...the common motifs used to go for over 1000 and are now half that or less...I sold all of mine for 300 each)

People need to specialize in order to create a demand for stuff, and you can't do that when everyone can get every motif easily.

Shimizu

Over the past week or so I've levelled from VR2 to VR4 while obsessively opening every box, trunk, barrel, crate, cabinet, dresser, wardrobe, etc. Every time I go through town I open everything and I go through town every couple of hours to sort out my inventory. I have never found a motif in the VR zones whilst pre-50 I used to find them fairly frequently. I understand they need to keep them rare, but with the thousands of boxes I've opened if I found one now the drop rate would still be less than a tenth of a percent (less than 1/1000 boxes). This really is an unacceptable drop rate imo.

apterous

i see people whining that they find less motifs. guess what, i've played since early access and guess how many motifs i've found in total during all my play time. 3. over a month playing like 10-14 hours a day and i've found 3 motifs. see me whining? not much.

maso

They were meant to be super rare from the beginning. Your race was supposed to MEAN SOMETHING.

Of course, they dropped the ball big time. At launch, I and everyone else serious about crafting learned all the nonrare styles in a day. Now the market is so saturated with books that you will be lucky anybody cares to buy them for more than pocket change. Something drastic had to be done.

columbineb14_ESO

Eh, every single one of the basic styles makes ugly heavy armor anyway. Except possibly Redguard. I haven't found that one yet.

SadisticSavior

columbineb14_ESO wrote: »

Eh, every single one of the basic styles makes ugly heavy armor anyway. Except possibly Redguard. I haven't found that one yet.

I have Redguard. I never use it. I mostly use Imperial and Breton and occasionally Nord and Wood Elf.

I think the only normal one I don't have yet is High Elf.