Low FPS, High end PC. Recently. PLS HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

mikeyy13b16_ESO

Hey guys! so first of all i want to begin about my PC specs, i got this PC for about 7-8 months now, and I THINK the PSU (Power Supply Unit) is failing, but i could be wrong, Windows 7 is acting weird too lately, so either that or the PSU, OR... Vsync. So first of my specs: i7 3770k 3.5 GHz, 8 GB RAM 250 gb HDD, (I had 1 terabyte of HDD space.)Nvidia Geforce GTX 770 OC, WIndows 7 Ultimate. So i was playing ESO for the last couple of days just fine, drivers were up to date, recently got a new driver update from nvidia, that worked great aswell, Then suddenly i booted up the game, and i turned vsync on and i had about 27-30 fps, so i was like hmm probably a bug lol, but no it was more then that, because when i turned vsync OFF i still had it.. and i always get like 100-120 fps on eso without vsync off, So there's either a major issue with my PC, The ESO patch or the PSU (Power Supply Unit) Any help much appreciated. And before you guys say turn off the addon called ESOHead, i know, i have that turned off, and a few other addons aswell, i tried disabling all the addons, That didnt work either with the fps issue, *** man even on medium it sticks at 27-30 fps..! - Mike **EDIT** SO i just booted up ESO again, and figure out that it needs to run in windows basic, this was NOT the case before hand, but now it is i see.. Does this ruin my performance? Windows Aero is activated because of that. this is also not the case with any other games except skyrim aswell recently. - Mike.

mikeyy13b16_ESO

Please help ASAP, my game time runs out on 9 may and i'd still love to play, if any of you guys can help me out on Teamviewer please do so! if you got the time..

D34thly

Make sure nothing is forced in drivers. I've also been told by Zenimax staff to run non-aero mode. Anyways if your not looking at your desktop while your playing go to game shortcut properties and make it turn off while playing ESO. It could have been a recent patch aswell. I can't say its drivers as you said it as running fine before. If you really think its your PSU failing do some benchmarks that load your GPU and your PC crashes then it likely is PSU as long as GPU isn't overheating anyways.

Captainbristol0

Have you turned vsync off to try that? Sorry just seen you did.hmm.

Brabok

you mention that it happened shortly after you updates your nvidia drivers.
have you tried rolling the drivers back to the previous version?
that can help at times

Syntse

My guess would on on the drivers as well. You might also get some software to monitor the voltages on your gfx and processor if you really doubt that your psu is misfunctioning. I just hope I don't get similar drop on fps when I update the driver or I'll be playing somewhere 15-20 fps

As side note I've never got even near 100 fps with my gtx 780 and I know my system should be able to get that (i5-4670k, gtx 780, 8gb 1600Mhz DDR3). So nice to hear that someone with 770 has been able then it's prolly just issue with 780 cards. Other games I get easily 100 or more fps.

D34thly

Its funny on windows 7 I had issues getting over 35 fps in ultra now I get 50-65 ultra 100 draw. Before on ultra with 60 draw I would get around 35fps. I upgraded to windows 8.1 I had a key from my brothers copy he hates. It runs alot better on windows 8 for some reason.. I reinstalled windows 7 to see the difference and its there.

This is on
AMD 8350
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
8Gigs @‌ 1866
AMD 280x
Windows 8.1 Pro x64

Audigy

Syntse wrote: »

My guess would on on the drivers as well. You might also get some software to monitor the voltages on your gfx and processor if you really doubt that your psu is misfunctioning. I just hope I don't get similar drop on fps when I update the driver or I'll be playing somewhere 15-20 fps

As side note I've never got even near 100 fps with my gtx 780 and I know my system should be able to get that (i5-4670k, gtx 780, 8gb 1600Mhz DDR3). So nice to hear that someone with 770 has been able then it's prolly just issue with 780 cards. Other games I get easily 100 or more fps.

Nobody will get 100 fps in pvp or towns, but inside buildings and dungeons its pretty normal.

I still have a 6970 so yours should definitely do better on ultra.

Thechemicals

my fps is 70-90 when running around and then goes to 18-25 when any actions happens....it slowly gets better but ive seen this before in mmo's and i know its up to Zeni to fix.

Saerydoth

D34thly wrote: »

Its funny on windows 7 I had issues getting over 35 fps in ultra now I get 50-65 ultra 100 draw. Before on ultra with 60 draw I would get around 35fps. I upgraded to windows 8.1 I had a key from my brothers copy he hates. It runs alot better on windows 8 for some reason.. I reinstalled windows 7 to see the difference and its there.

This is on
AMD 8350
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
8Gigs @‌ 1866
AMD 280x
Windows 8.1 Pro x64

Windows 7 has very poor support for AMD FX processors, even after the "patches" that supposedly improved it. Windows 8/8.1 has a different CPU scheduler that works MUCH better with these. If you were using anything else, you wouldn't have seen much difference between 7 and 8.

mikeyy13b16_ESO

Hmm well i think it might be a Windows issue of mine or the PSU is failing, Anyway il try to switch to a previous driver, But i will lose my 25% more in skyrim'' tho

D34thly

Download HWmonitor and tell us your voltages. Mostly the 12v, but all will do or take a screenshot. This will let us know if your PSU is not pushing the correct voltages. I a little off is alright, but if your seeing big differences PSU is likely failing. What PSU do you have exactly?

mikeyy13b16_ESO

D34thly wrote: »

Download HWmonitor and tell us your voltages. Mostly the 12v, but all will do or take a screenshot. This will let us know if your PSU is not pushing the correct voltages. I a little off is alright, but if your seeing big differences PSU is likely failing. What PSU do you have exactly?

Hi, I have a combat power 750 Watt PSU And im not sure on where to look at voltages on HWmonitor. I've just installed it,

D34thly

Ok here

mikeyy13b16_ESO

D34thly wrote: »

Ok here

Hello!:) i have these

Syntse

Audigy wrote: »

Nobody will get 100 fps in pvp or towns, but inside buildings and dungeons its pretty normal.

I still have a 6970 so yours should definitely do better on ultra.

True and I believe that, especially in towns and pvp. However I'm struggling to get even 50 fps with this game in any circumstances. While I play BF4 with average 100fps in ultra no problem.

LariahHunding

Here's shotgun blast of crap. Maybe some will stick

SSD will make a performance difference. Defrag will help. Here's a complete list

---Ingame settings---
Lowering shadows and reflexions gives the biggest fps boost.
Try Low/Normal.
Some people reported good results with particles on Normal.
View distance on 50-60 is good enough.
Try out the other settings, however they either have no effects on fps or major downgrade of graphics.
You can use /fps to check out your FPS.

---UserSettings.txt tweaks---
Simply change the numbers here. MAKE SURE TO BACKUP THE FILE.
SET CachedReflectionResolution "3"
SET CachedShadowFiltering "3"
SET HIGH_RESOLUTION_SHADOWS "0"
SET GPUSmoothingFrames "0"
SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "0"
SET SOFT_ALPHA "0"

(this tweak needs to be tested what works best for you, people are reporting different results. Use only one.)
SET GraphicsDriver.7 "D3D9" -or- "D3D11" -or- "OPENGL"

SET RequestedNumThreads "0"

---Disabling additional audio drivers---
Open your device manager.
Open Sound, Video, and Game Controllers.
Make sure to deactivate any audio devices beside your main device (usually the name of your soundcard).
Reboot.

---Give eso.exe admin privileges---
Browse to your TESO installation folder.
Create a shortcut for eso.exe.
Right click -> porpeties ->advanced and give it admin privileges.
Play the game by using this shortcut.
For future patches you of course need to launch the launcher.
optional: If you start the game by the launcher, make sure to close the launcher once you clicked on Play.

---Set eso.exe to high priority---
Once you opened the game, open the task manager.
Go to processes, right click on eso.exe ->priority ->high.
-You need to reapply this setting everytime you start TESO-

---For people with 4GB RAM or less---
Close all programms when you start eso.exe.
This makes sure TESO can use the maximum amount of available RAM.
Especially usefull when playing with high textures and long distance in open fields.

---For AMD CPU users---
Try disabling Cool & Quiet in the BIOS.
Some people reported a good performance boost.

---For NVIDIA users---
Open NVIDIA control panel
3D Settings
Add a "Select A Program To Customize"
Find and select eso.exe
Select your GPU (usually called "High Performance NVIDIA processor")

---Video card driver---
Make sure you have the newest driver for your video card.
Works wonders oftentimes.

---Set Power options to High/Balanced---
Open windows control panel ->Power options
Change to High/Balanced.
The power saving option would lock any 3D FPS to 30.

---Disabling CPU parking---
Download Parkcontrol http://bitsum.com/about_cpu_core_parking.php
Open the programm
Select your current power option
Set coreparking to "Disable"
Apply.

Thechemicals

Yeah done all of that. Have comcast ultra blast internet as well and i dont use the modem they give you, instead i bought a 300 dollar super modem plus i refresh my signals every 1-2 days. Im also using a top of the line alienware laptop as well.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-17/pd.aspx

Done it all, even on command prompt ip release/refresh/renew. I play battlefield and competitive ladder games so i take my fps seriously. This game is a lag monster reminiscent of age of conans pvp zones. For the most parts it is okay, but i didnt purchase this game for okay latency and stability. I can bear the bugs and the imbalance, the but lag is unacceptable.

LariahHunding

They really need to work on the threading and using multiple cores. I have an AMD FX4130 - GTX750 - 8Gbs. Differences:

70-80 fps in instance dungeons
60's out in the world.
40' s in most cities.
25-30 in really busy where there are a lot of other players.

I have watch these busy sites in the games load up on a single core. Spreading some of this out to other cores would.

However this may not be possible.

LariahHunding

Also, have you tried http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2360/techpowerup-gpu-z-v0-7-8/

It may give some insight into what is going on.

Beldorr

mikeyy13b16_ESO wrote: »

[snip]
i turned vsync on and i had about 27-30 fps
[snip]
i always get like 100-120 fps on eso without vsync off,
[snip]
The ESO patch or the PSU (Power Supply Unit)
[snip]
on medium it sticks at 27-30 fps..!
[snip]
it needs to run in windows basic, this was NOT the case before hand, but now it is i see [snip].

I did my best to remove the fluff and look at what your issues are and symptoms. It’s possible, just very unlikely that you PSU affecting your performance. You would see more system instability if you are lacking stable power to the CPU, not just FPS loss in ESO. As far as windows basic, windows ususally would revert to this if you run out of virtual memory. Windows Areo wouldn't account for 70-90 fps loss.

I’m confused when you say “i always get like 100-120 fps on eso without vsync off.” Without vsync off , so when vsync is on you normally get 100-120?

There are a lot of fixes being posted for a simple vsync change. If you're getting 27-30 fps on (ultra? not specified prior to the medium comment), then moving it to medium and getting 20-30 fps something is still limiting you. Mods like combat logs kill my fps if too much is going on (PVP), I suggest just disabling all mods until you resolve the issue, not just ESOhead.

It seems likely you still have vsync on, whether it’s checked or not, due the fps maxing out at 30 on different graphic settings. I'd have to defer nivida support to these other guys helping since I'm not a nivida user. Does the Nivida application have vsync setting for individual games?

Syntse

gougefub17_ESO wrote: »

Here's shotgun blast of crap. Maybe some will stick

SSD will make a performance difference. Defrag will help. Here's a complete list

---Ingame settings---
...

Good list especially for someone not having top high end gfx card to boost their fps. However for those that has top high end gfx, they should not be required to tone down the shadows, distances, etc to get even 60fps in everyday PvE in the woods.

If only I've known that this game requires GTX TITAN Z to run over 60 fps . Ok some cards do have that so as read the forums it seems there is some kind of issue at least with GTX 760 and 780 cards, that they do not perform as well as they should with this game.

WylieCoyote1511

Syntse wrote: »

gougefub17_ESO wrote: »

Here's shotgun blast of crap. Maybe some will stick

SSD will make a performance difference. Defrag will help. Here's a complete list

---Ingame settings---
...

Good list especially for someone not having top high end gfx card to boost their fps. However for those that has top high end gfx, they should not be required to tone down the shadows, distances, etc to get even 60fps in everyday PvE in the woods.

If only I've known that this game requires GTX TITAN Z to run over 60 fps . Ok some cards do have that so as read the forums it seems there is some kind of issue at least with GTX 760 and 780 cards, that they do not perform as well as they should with this game.

Yeah I got a 780 ti and this game does not run too great.

I do have an amd fx 8350 which some people have said is the problem. Yes I know they aren't as good as Intel.

However this is the first game my pc has struggled with and had to turn down settings.

D34thly

I'm been running around with 60-70 fps now in Greenshade since upgrading to windows 8.1. If you have a copy of windows 8 that you uninstalled and went back to windows 7 due to metro download classic shell and install it again. I was getting 30-40 fps before with med shadows and water reflections off at 60 draw distance. Now with windows 8 I have everything ultra besides low water reflections cause I can't see diffrence atm and it hits me for 10fps and 100 draw distance and get 60-70 outside and 100 in most dungeons otherwise 60-70 in dungeons. I had all the hotfixes installed on windows 7 for amd I have no idea why it was running so bad. (This is with a fresh install of windows 7 mind you). If you have an amd processor and have a copy of windows 8 give it a whirl.

mikeyy13b16_ESO

Beldorrub17_ESO wrote: »

mikeyy13b16_ESO wrote: »

[snip]
i turned vsync on and i had about 27-30 fps
[snip]
i always get like 100-120 fps on eso without vsync off,
[snip]
The ESO patch or the PSU (Power Supply Unit)
[snip]
on medium it sticks at 27-30 fps..!
[snip]
it needs to run in windows basic, this was NOT the case before hand, but now it is i see [snip].

I did my best to remove the fluff and look at what your issues are and symptoms. It’s possible, just very unlikely that you PSU affecting your performance. You would see more system instability if you are lacking stable power to the CPU, not just FPS loss in ESO. As far as windows basic, windows ususally would revert to this if you run out of virtual memory. Windows Areo wouldn't account for 70-90 fps loss.

I’m confused when you say “i always get like 100-120 fps on eso without vsync off.” Without vsync off , so when vsync is on you normally get 100-120?

There are a lot of fixes being posted for a simple vsync change. If you're getting 27-30 fps on (ultra? not specified prior to the medium comment), then moving it to medium and getting 20-30 fps something is still limiting you. Mods like combat logs kill my fps if too much is going on (PVP), I suggest just disabling all mods until you resolve the issue, not just ESOhead.

It seems likely you still have vsync on, whether it’s checked or not, due the fps maxing out at 30 on different graphic settings. I'd have to defer nivida support to these other guys helping since I'm not a nivida user. Does the Nivida application have vsync setting for individual games?

Ah *** i meant WITH vsync off.

saki

OK I upgraded to i7 4770k with r9 280x oc and it runs ok but have some randomly fps droping. Game is poorly optimized. No matter what option I change fps will randomly drop sometime.

Emphatic

Saerydoth wrote: »

D34thly wrote: »

Its funny on windows 7 I had issues getting over 35 fps in ultra now I get 50-65 ultra 100 draw. Before on ultra with 60 draw I would get around 35fps. I upgraded to windows 8.1 I had a key from my brothers copy he hates. It runs alot better on windows 8 for some reason.. I reinstalled windows 7 to see the difference and its there.

This is on
AMD 8350
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
8Gigs @‌ 1866
AMD 280x
Windows 8.1 Pro x64

Windows 7 has very poor support for AMD FX processors, even after the "patches" that supposedly improved it. Windows 8/8.1 has a different CPU scheduler that works MUCH better with these. If you were using anything else, you wouldn't have seen much difference between 7 and 8.

Wow I switched and literally doubled my fps, I mean I haven't tested it everywhere but I went from 40 on medium to 50 fps on max settings, thanks for this!

D34thly

Awesome glad I am not the only one windows 8 helped.