No patch today? Just great.

rager82b14_ESO

rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

My proof>anyone elses word of mouth. enough said, if you think vampires are easy kills. You don't know enough about this game.

So because I can kill them, I don't know enough.

There you go again, sucking logic away.

I get the feeling that maybe, just maybe, you are terrible at PvP. You seem to be having a hard time killing things.

Perhaps stick to PvE.

No i'm just calling you a liar. That is all, I'm sure you can beat some vampires, but not the ones that know what they are doing.

Also, by judging how you are acting in this thread. I think that you really do need to learn this game better. Take it from your betters. You don't know what you are talking about.

Anyone who argues with me after watching video proof is clueless. If 30 people can not kill the person spamming fighter skills and fire. You can't beat them.

rawne1980b16_ESO

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

No i'm just calling you a liar. That is all, I'm sure you can beat some vampires, but not the ones that know what they are doing.

Also, by judging how you are acting in this thread. I think that you really do need to learn this game better. Take it from your betters. You don't know what you are talking about.

I just want to pinch your little cheeks you're so adorable.

You talk a lot of bubbles but still adorable.

I'm going to dub thee the forum jester. You do give me a chuckle.

nerevarine1138

I love it.

"Vampires are too weak in PvP!"
"Vampires are too strong in PvP!"
"I don't know how to do anything that doesn't involve mashing my face against the keyboard and rolling it back and forth!"

OP, you are literally the only person who hasn't figured out how to beat vampires in PvP. Kill them with fire. Use silver bolts. Your problem has been solved.

lyndsayporterb16_ESO

rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

My proof>anyone elses word of mouth. enough said, if you think vampires are easy kills. You don't know enough about this game.

So because I can kill them, I don't know enough.

There you go again, sucking logic away.

I get the feeling that maybe, just maybe, you are terrible at PvP. You seem to be having a hard time killing things.

Perhaps stick to PvE.

so many immature folk here swinging their epeens around and arguing over something nobody cares about
this is why boys shouldn't be allowed access to the internet

rager82b14_ESO

"The common curse of mankind, folly
and ignorance, be thine in great revenue!"

I post video proof, and people still try to argue. I'm amazed.

Altheina

Saw the vid and I must say that is one OP build combo! However, pardon me if I am wrong but it seems that the core issue is with deadly bash?

Definitely worth Zenimax attention on this one...

rager82b14_ESO

lyndsayporterb16_ESO wrote: »

so many immature folk here swinging their epeens around and arguing over something nobody cares about
this is why boys shouldn't be allowed access to the internet

I am very childish. ^_^

“My tongue will tell the anger of my heart, or else my heart concealing it will break.”

Draconiuos

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Draconiuos wrote: »

So, because I have a different experience with things than you, and the fact that I don't agree that vamps are op, means I know nothing of the game? The fact I know about silver bolts and the fighters guild skill line proves I must know something of the game. The fact I know that the fighters guild skill line has a passive that effects werewolves shows I have done at least some research into the game. So, your insult just makes you look silly at the very least.

I have been in fights with VR10 DK+vamps with and without the emperor buff. I know how tough they can be, but I have also watched them getting taken down quickly by people using Fighter Guild abilities. If they are using an ability that allows them to drain health in an area to stay alive than spread out. It is called tactics learn some.

I posted video proof, all you have is your two cents. While I do respect it, I don't think it holds value at all compare to what I have shown. Unless you think taking 30+ people on and living through it. Is balance.

If a vr10 dk got taking down by fighter guilds skills. They are doing it wrong.

You are right, I don't have video proof, but then again I am watching this video and most of the people they are killing are below lvl 50. I am not sure if you are aware, but Cyrodil limits you stats when below lvl 50. Yes it buff you to a point, but I know for a fact my armor is over 1k outside of Cyrodil, but for some reason inside Cyrodil I get dropped to 870 or so armor. I VR 10 has a massive advantage over anyone not at least lvl 50 or above.

Three procs from silver bolt before they can do anything will kill any Vamp. Then there are further skills to be used. The ultimate itself will do 650+ dmg to all vamps in front of the person using it. The AOE armor buff that grants massive armor can be morphed to fear vamps. The Weapon buff grants even more damage on proc and choice of stam regen on proc, or even more damage from stealth. Silver bolts can be upgraded to hit more than one target or add a long range pull when hitting a vamp. The Trap can be dropped so once you pull them to you they are stuck in place taking another 200-300 damage has you beat on them. And most of these damages are a rough guess based on what they do for my at lvl 39. Let's not forget the passive that grants you even more weapon damage against vamp. The fact is a VR10 Fighter guild specced person will be more than enough to knock VR10 vamps on their butts.

rager82b14_ESO

You are right, I don't have video proof, but then again I am watching this video and most of the people they are killing are below lvl 50. I am not sure if you are aware, but Cyrodil limits you stats when below lvl 50. Yes it buff you to a point, but I know for a fact my armor is over 1k outside of Cyrodil, but for some reason inside Cyrodil I get dropped to 870 or so armor. I VR 10 has a massive advantage over anyone not at least lvl 50 or above.

I am vr 10, and I can't do that, it is a mix of dragon +bash damage+ animation cut off, and how broken vampire skills are with it.

If you watch the video, silverbolt does get spam on them, follow by fire and other things. They shrug it off like it is nothing.


Saying 30+ people are below VR 10 as a defense of what we just saw is kinda a moot point.

The gap from vr 1 gear to vr 10 is Not huge enough in most cases that can let you tank a army.

mutharex

RAGER YOU GONNA PAYYYYYY!

well that was fun till it lasted sigh...
so, still busy telling people you are right and if they don't agree they are dumb? Cool, never change, Ragey, never change!

rager82b14_ESO

mutharex wrote: »

RAGER YOU GONNA PAYYYYYY!

well that was fun till it lasted sigh...
so, still busy telling people you are right and if they don't agree they are dumb? Cool, never change, Ragey, never change!

I don't mind if people don't agree, but they have to discuss why they feel I am wrong, and why that video is wrong. Only one person has at least attempt to do this, and I gave them the respect by answering it.

Draconiuos

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

You are right, I don't have video proof, but then again I am watching this video and most of the people they are killing are below lvl 50. I am not sure if you are aware, but Cyrodil limits you stats when below lvl 50. Yes it buff you to a point, but I know for a fact my armor is over 1k outside of Cyrodil, but for some reason inside Cyrodil I get dropped to 870 or so armor. I VR 10 has a massive advantage over anyone not at least lvl 50 or above.

I am vr 10, and I can't do that, it is a mix of dragon +bash damage+ animation cut off, and how broken vampire skills are with it.

If you watch the video, silverbolt does get spam on them, follow by fire and other things. They shrug it off like it is nothing.


Saying 30+ people are below VR 10 as a defense of what we just saw is kinda a moot point.

The gap from vr 1 gear to vr 10 is Not huge enough in most cases that can let you tank a army.

I said most of the people were below level 50. There is a huge difference between below lvl 50 and VR 10, especially since Cyrodil starts to nerf some of your stat the closer you get to lvl 50, in an effort to make the lvl 50 boost not too op. And now you are saying the build overall is broken and not Vamps. The bash thing is known OP. And I said Silver bolt needs to proc, but I also point out many other Fighter Guild abilities that would help too. Silver Bolt is nice, but for a VR 10 Vamp especially with one with that build you will probably need to use all the skills in the line.

mutharex

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

mutharex wrote: »

RAGER YOU GONNA PAYYYYYY!

well that was fun till it lasted sigh...
so, still busy telling people you are right and if they don't agree they are dumb? Cool, never change, Ragey, never change!

I don't mind if people don't agree, but they have to discuss why they feel I am wrong, and why that video is wrong. Only one person has at least attempt to do this, and I gave them the respect by answering it.

Without much detail on when that was shot and what levels are REALLY the players, it's hard to really discuss about it

rager82b14_ESO

Draconiuos wrote: »

I said most of the people were below level 50. There is a huge difference between below lvl 50 and VR 10, especially since Cyrodil starts to nerf some of your stat the closer you get to lvl 50, in an effort to make the lvl 50 boost not too op. And now you are saying the build overall is broken and not Vamps. The bash thing is known OP. And I said Silver bolt needs to proc, but I also point out many other Fighter Guild abilities that would help too. Silver Bolt is nice, but for a VR 10 Vamp especially with one with that build you will probably need to use all the skills in the line.

If that was really the case, why is it that one class can do it, while others can not?

I'm saying some thing is broken if they can live through that. Just because they are lower level people btw they all scale to at least 50. Does not mean 1 person should be able to tank all of them.


Levels and gear should mean nothing at that point. I don't think saying they are all lower level is a good defense to what that video shows.

Also, I'm saying lots of things are broken because this game is broken.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Shouldn't this be in one of the alliance war sub forums, not the newbie question one? We obviously beed to flag the heck out of it. Where the heck are the forum police around here.

Draconiuos

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Draconiuos wrote: »

I said most of the people were below level 50. There is a huge difference between below lvl 50 and VR 10, especially since Cyrodil starts to nerf some of your stat the closer you get to lvl 50, in an effort to make the lvl 50 boost not too op. And now you are saying the build overall is broken and not Vamps. The bash thing is known OP. And I said Silver bolt needs to proc, but I also point out many other Fighter Guild abilities that would help too. Silver Bolt is nice, but for a VR 10 Vamp especially with one with that build you will probably need to use all the skills in the line.

If that was really the case, why is it that one class can do it, while others can not?

I'm saying some thing is broken if they can live through that. Just because they are lower level people btw they all scale to at least 50. Does not mean 1 person should be able to tank all of them.


Levels and gear should mean nothing at that point. I don't think saying they are all lower level is a good defense to what that video shows.

Also, I'm saying lots of things are broken because this game is broken.

You keep missing the part where I say the buff that boosts you to lvl 50 doesn't really. I am level 39 and when I go to Cyrodil I have my armor, health regen, and stamina regen capped off and lowered in by 200 points in the case of my Armor. You can't tell me the lvl 50 caps for overcharged stats and such is lower than that of a lvl 39.

Also, it isn't just one class, try facing a mage/vamp build that has reduced their ult to a cost of 0. Those are way more powerful than this.