[SOLVED] (Vampire) Cannot defeat Molag Bal no matter how much i try

AreoHotah

i'm a vampire khajiit nightblade dual-wield. I got full vr1 gear i can't even bring him down to 75% health.

you simply cannot avoid the blue fire he shots, not with block not with dodge...
when he swings his weapon even if you are 10 feet away from him dodging he stil hits you

i'm using potions, i've eaten food. i don't know what else to do. i've never encountered a more annoying fight before. i'm out of gold to repair my gear soon.

PS : not to mention that light that comes out of your armor, it brightens all the screen hurts my eyes...

Zazar

Try "Strife" spell. As you're dealing tons of damage during this encounter but your health isn't changed, you won't drop below 90% health.

christerb16_ESO2

While I'm not a vampire, I found that Strife (self heal from the siphoning tree) effectively made me invulnerable. The way you have increased damage in that fight means the self heal is incredible at that point. I was fully in stamina stats and gear at that point, meaning very low survivability in general.

With you being a vampire, I would imagine you'll need fire resist (neck pieces can have a lot of it) and a stat focus on health. That should offset the increased fire damage you take. If not, there's always the option of curing yourself from vampirism..

awkwarrd

crai7er_boy_4lif3b16_ESO wrote: »

i'm a vampire khajiit nightblade dual-wield. I got full vr1 gear i can't even bring him down to 75% health.

you simply cannot avoid the blue fire he shots, not with block not with dodge...
when he swings his weapon even if you are 10 feet away from him dodging he stil hits you

i'm using potions, i've eaten food. i don't know what else to do. i've never encountered a more annoying fight before. i'm out of gold to repair my gear soon.

PS : not to mention that light that comes out of your armor, it brightens all the screen hurts my eyes...

I killed him as a rank10 vampire on my alt.

I used 1hand/shield with the defensive stance morphed into a heal.(absorb magic)
It came in handy when he summons his adds in stage2.

• As a rank10 vamp you should be able to tank him in melee, when your health gets to 30% he should do no damage with his melee swings.
• The Blue bolts he shoots are unavoidable, they are "homing missiles" but they do little damage.
• You need to evade roll backwards when you see him charge up his weapon, that scream will instant kill you.
• Phase 2 is the hard part, you need to use the rocks as cover to avoid the dragons he summons, their fire bolts hurt.
• Blocking is a reflect missile, so you can block all fire bolts from the adds, because you wear the amulet of kings, it enhances block.
• You can also kite them around the outside of the area with Mist Form.
• The adds do stop chasing you after 5 minutes, so if you can kite them long enough, you will get to phase 3.
• You need to keep running around him in stage 3.
• You cannot be standing still in stage 3.
• You only need to get him down to 30% health or so, so don't panick if you are running out of ways to heal at this point, just pump up the damage and heal as often as you can.

I hope this helped.
If you have any further questions please private message me on these forums.

AreoHotah

Zazar wrote: »

Try "Strife" spell. As you're dealing tons of damage during this encounter but your health isn't changed, you won't drop below 90% health.

sounds nice. problem is i've gathered all the skyshards in non vr area so i have no more skill points to alocate. so i either have to respec ( wich will cost me at least 10k i think) or go to cyrodiil and get some skyshards.

thank you all for helping me out.

ALSO what mundus stone do you guys think it will be best for this battle??

http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/02/mundus-stones-eso/

Zazar

I'd say that there isn't any particular stone which is best for this battle, as it's a non-significant buff if you're using Strife, the encounter should be easy peasy lemon squeezy.

Anyway, you could choose "The Atronach" for magicka regeneration, so that you'll be able to use Strife more often.

awkwarrd

crai7er_boy_4lif3b16_ESO wrote: »

sounds nice. problem is i've gathered all the skyshards in non vr area so i have no more skill points to alocate. so i either have to respec ( wich will cost me at least 10k i think) or go to cyrodiil and get some skyshards.

thank you all for helping me out.

ALSO what mundus stone do you guys think it will be best for this battle??

http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/02/mundus-stones-eso/

Strife will not help you.
Majority of the Mundus stones are broken atm aswell.

Zazar

Strife will not help you.

Please develop.

awkwarrd

Zazar wrote: »

Please develop.

Because it is a very small regen, the magicka used in casting this will only give small amounts of health, there are many other abilities that would be better in the action bar than this, aswell as ones that would be of better use when conserving magicka.

Pretty sure i outlined a large list above of things that would make fighting Molag Baal easier.

Strife is weak in damage and weak in health regen, against a fight that has alot of fire attacks, it will do very little to help.

Im not sure why this ability was specifically suggested by you, and im not sure you have even killed Molag Baal as a vampire to know what it is like.

Zazar

awkwarrd wrote: »

Zazar wrote: »

Please develop.

Because it is a very small regen, the magicka used in casting this will only give small amounts of health, there are many other abilities that would be better in the action bar than this, aswell as ones that would be of better use when conserving magicka.

Pretty sure i outlined a large list above of things that would make fighting Molag Baal easier.

Strife is weak in damage and weak in health regen, against a fight that has alot of fire attacks, it will do very little to help.

Im not sure why this ability was specifically suggested by you, and im not sure you have even killed Molag Baal as a vampire to know what it is like.

Strife description : Deals X Magic Damage and heals player for 25% of the damage inflicted, every 2 seconds for 10 seconds.

If I remember well, during this combat, you have a buff which strongly increase your damage (like x10), so that the regen provided by this spell is insane.
It worked for me.

Nasuradin_ESO

awkwarrd wrote: »

• Phase 2 is the hard part, you need to use the rocks as cover to avoid the dragons he summons, their fire bolts hurt.
• Blocking is a reflect missile, so you can block all fire bolts from the adds, because you wear the amulet of kings, it enhances block.

Blocking deflects the blue bolts from the adds right back at them and it only takes a couple to kill them outright, When phase 2 started I ran down the stairs to funnel the adds in a pile sat at the bottom and blocked until they were all dead, it was also easier to walk away from any aoe they tried.

mischab16_ESO2

This fight is no problem at all if you have some movement skills, and the mobs spawned during the fight are easy to kill with that insane dmg buff you get there.

awkwarrd

Zazar wrote: »

Strife description : Deals X Magic Damage and heals player for 25% of the damage inflicted, every 2 seconds for 10 seconds.

If I remember well, during this combat, you have a buff which strongly increase your damage (like x10), so that the regen provided by this spell is insane.
It worked for me.

Nah it doesn't. not sure if you're a vampire.
The other bloke who posted about strife is also not a vampire.

Custos91

I don't even understand the problem? truly.... comes it from nightblade + vampire ? because I was able to kill him at lvl 48 with my templar using only my restoration staff...
If it comes from beeing a vampire, a single enchant can give you up to 1000 fire resistance, that can be solved.
being a nightblade means:
be more squishy
be more mobile
if you have the chance, just annoy your enemy to death by using leeching strike and the mana for selt healing purposes ? Healing ward sounds, since the shield gets stronger the more life you are missing, extremely strong for a vampire, who simply gets less dmg after beeing damaged....
Or is there a veteran bossfight with him too ? I am confused xD
I have beaten him with a 49 points magicka build, and full light armor by only using light/heavy attacks, roll and block, just be sure YOU DON'T TRY TO MEELE the titans... run around in circles, use / staff bow light attacks while running and keep your life up

Edit: Sry my spelling is messed up, my damaged left shoulder is bond to my chest (missing a medical term here) and I am not really getting used to it

bloodenragedb14_ESO

i did it by investing in damage shields, using bot the light armor skill and the daedric summoning damage shield skill, this protected me from the worst of his attacks, and i used dark exchange to heal from what got through the shield.

im a vampire as well, so i used poison mist, coupled with damage sheilds, to do most of my damage. lol i didnt even know about the block thing, killd all the adds with poison mist. if you try it this way be sure to use the damage shields before you mist, these shields give you near invulnerability to his attacks

AreoHotah

Zazar wrote: »

Try "Strife" spell. As you're dealing tons of damage during this encounter but your health isn't changed, you won't drop below 90% health.

Tried it this morning, it was stupidly easy. you were right i was full health all the time just shooting at him while moving with a simple 2h staff i crafted. thank you and every1 who tried to help me, cheers.

awkwarrd

Custos91 wrote: »

I don't even understand the problem? truly.... comes it from nightblade + vampire ? because I was able to kill him at lvl 48 with my templar using only my restoration staff...

HOw were you able to fight Molag Baal at level 48?
You don;t get the quest to fight him until 50.

nerevarine1138

mischab16_ESO2 wrote: »

This fight is no problem at all if you have some movement skills, and the mobs spawned during the fight are easy to kill with that insane dmg buff you get there.

The OP actually had a fair point, but it sounds like he figured out the strategy.

But a vampire without a fire-resist piece of jewelry is absolutely screwed when those adds come down unless they're very fast or very lucky. Three of the Titans' fire attacks hitting you at once will kill most players, even if they've hit the health soft-cap.

AreoHotah

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

mischab16_ESO2 wrote: »

This fight is no problem at all if you have some movement skills, and the mobs spawned during the fight are easy to kill with that insane dmg buff you get there.

The OP actually had a fair point, but it sounds like he figured out the strategy.

But a vampire without a fire-resist piece of jewelry is absolutely screwed when those adds come down unless they're very fast or very lucky. Three of the Titans' fire attacks hitting you at once will kill most players, even if they've hit the health soft-cap.

Yes i did have a 1200 fire resist on a ring. but there is no proble with the titans, if you hold block the fire will redirect to them...

hood3311_ESO

I am having a rough time with this quest, and I think it could possibly have something to do with me being a vampire. That being sad, I like to play MMO's, but I am more of a casual gamer and so I'm sure part of it has to do with my lack of skill and knowledge, but until now I haven't encountered a quest where I just completely got demolished like this. Don't get me wrong, I know it is supposed to be difficult because it is the final quest of the main story-line, and I respect that. I am just personally having a really frustrating time trying to beat it.

When the Titans spawn with Molog, either A.) I BARELY manage to kill them using my bow and the shield to reflect their fire-balls. or, B.) They spawn when I am in a bad spot and simultaneously shoot me with six fireballs and I explode. Even if I do manage to kill the Titans, my health and resources are low and he is able to kill me almost immediately.

I use dual wielding and I have pretty decent weapons, but I feel like I am barely scratching him, even when I am using my abilities to their fullest extent, yet I am taking tons of damage. I block everything I can, but eventually my stamina runs out and then aside from using a potion, I'm pretty much done for. I use heavy armor and have all of the heavy armor passives unlocked, all the dual wield passives unlocked, pretty decent weapons. My armor may be a couple of levels below me, but it's not bad. I even got one of my good friends (GM of my local Gamestop) to get on my account to see if it was just me (he has already beat the quest -- also a DK, but not vampire) and he couldn't even make it to the part where you actually fight Molog.. I'm not really sure what to do about it, but I may give the restoration staff/healing idea a go if nothing else. I have 12 attribute pts in Magicka. 19 in Health and 18 in stamina. If you guys think this is wrong, feel free to let me know. I want to have good DPS, but I also want to be able to be viable as a ranged/utility when needed.

P.S. Those huge fire-balls that Molog throws when you're making your way to him are a pain. Sometimes they seemed like homing missiles, insta-killing me about 10 times as I hopelessly tried to run and jump out of the way.

Thanks for reading this long post! :P

AreoHotah

ok so this is what i did.

1.used staff of restoration crafted by me, white quality, lvl 50 (shooting from affar and mooving)
2.used a piece of jewelry with 1k+ fire resist enchant on it
3.the only spell i used was STRIFE every 10 seconds on an enemy (you wont even drop under 50% health)
4.when titans came i just stood still and block, they all died then continued with molag by shooting him with the staff and STRAFE.

it becomes stupidly easy that way.

Nasuradin_ESO

hood3311_ESO wrote: »

P.S. Those huge fire-balls that Molog throws when you're making your way to him are a pain. Sometimes they seemed like homing missiles, insta-killing me about 10 times as I hopelessly tried to run and jump out of the way.

You know, I survived one of those once when I popped into mist form when it hit, I don't know if I was just lucky or not, I tried not to make a habit of being in them.

hood3311_ESO

crai7er_boy_4lif3b16_ESO wrote: »

ok so this is what i did.

1.used staff of restoration crafted by me, white quality, lvl 50 (shooting from affar and mooving)
2.used a piece of jewelry with 1k+ fire resist enchant on it
3.the only spell i used was STRIFE every 10 seconds on an enemy (you wont even drop under 50% health)
4.when titans came i just stood still and block, they all died then continued with molag by shooting him with the staff and STRAFE.

it becomes stupidly easy that way.

Hm, I suppose I could get a staff, but what makes the restoration staff more viable than a bow in this situation? Also, I am a DK, so I don't have "Strife" or know what it does. Do you know if we have any abilities that are similar? Thanks!

Nasuradin_ESO wrote: »

hood3311_ESO wrote: »

P.S. Those huge fire-balls that Molog throws when you're making your way to him are a pain. Sometimes they seemed like homing missiles, insta-killing me about 10 times as I hopelessly tried to run and jump out of the way.

You know, I survived one of those once when I popped into mist form when it hit, I don't know if I was just lucky or not, I tried not to make a habit of being in them.

Good idea; they were definitely unforgiving.. :P

Ashigaru

Was a templar vampire and had no trouble except for the titans until I figuered out about the reflect. You just need to dodge and run.

LoreRunner

Way I killed him as a Nightblade Vamp with Resto/Dest staves.

1) had mist form, had the bat Ultimate
2) Charged up the ultimate so it was ready
3) Shot him from a distance as much as possible.
4) When he used his charge up attack (Stun attack) I blocked that attack'
5) Immediately after that he uses the fire breath, I rolled away from that or ran to the side depending
6) Repeated until the dragons came out
7) I used Mist Form to move up close to the largest concentrations of Dragons
8) Hit Ultimate immediately after I came out of mist (Most if not all of those dragons died)
9) Used mist form again to kill the last few dragons with poison
10) Finished of boss with same basic tactics again.

I would switch to healing staff only when I really needed health, otherwise I would just chug potions.

jelliedsoup

Strife worked a treat.