Underworld Online

ZRage

WTF is this seriously, single vampire jump in mist into 30 people and kill everything just tell me who in the hell balanced this:

75% damage reduction from mist form + invisibility
30% damage reduction on low health
^All of this stacks with resistance
Mass life leech and recovery
Mass Aoe Damage

Just tell me how this fighters guild skill can make a difference if vamps take 90% less damage due to this *** skills.

Nerf this stupid retardness

Shimond

That's hilarious.

Vikova

Judging by the myriad of threads that argue the exact opposite, namely that vampires are largely screwed in PvP, perhaps you just need to adapt. This sounds like a ragepost made after one annoying death.

Gedalya

He must be on Team Jacob...

rawne1980b16_ESO

I love vampires in PvP, even on lowbie alts.

It's like it's raining free kills.

I usually dread seeing VR10's when i'm on a lowbie but I get all warm and fuzzy when they turn out to be a vamp and I spam silver bolts to their face.

Imagine how annoyed they are getting their arse handed to them by a level 13.

I very rarely see a vampire last long in pvp.

I do often see little blobs of mist running away from from fights.

Dbetz007

The silver bolts are pretty wicked.. They do not only do damage but knock the undead down.. which can be very dangerous in pvp I would imagine.

ZRage

Silver bolt 2k dmg proc deal 200-300 dmg after mist form mitigation you guys really, wtf why I even bother posting here.

single vamp can tank 30 people because of this damage reduction and leech life at Veteran Ranks+ this is completely broken

Severan

Maybe because in mist form you can't heal or attack anything?

rawne1980b16_ESO

ZRage wrote: »

Silver bolt 2k dmg proc deal 200-300 dmg after mist form mitigation you guys really, wtf why I even bother posting here.

single vamp can tank 30 people because of this damage reduction and leech life at Veteran Ranks+ this is completely broken

As I said, mist form doesn't last long.

If you're seeing a vamp tanking 30 people then i'd suggest re rolling your faction or moving to a different campaign because the people you're playing with absolutely suck.

You are trying to say there is an issue when other people don't have it. You won't get people to agree with you if the people aren't having an issue with vampires.

Personally I think vampires are incredibly gimped in PvP and I almost feel sorry for them ... not quite ... but almost.

If they took mist form away from them then they really would be free kills and have no chance of running away.... I like to see them run away, it gives me the happy.

Alyrn_Grey

Vampires and Werewolves are pretty much free PVP points if you have leveled up the fighter guild and taken their passives. The tier 4 passive lets you add werewolves to your list of things affected by your fighter guild powers. So feel free to take them down with silver bolts.

ZRage

rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »

ZRage wrote: »

Silver bolt 2k dmg proc deal 200-300 dmg after mist form mitigation you guys really, wtf why I even bother posting here.

single vamp can tank 30 people because of this damage reduction and leech life at Veteran Ranks+ this is completely broken

As I said, mist form doesn't last long.

If you're seeing a vamp tanking 30 people then i'd suggest re rolling your faction or moving to a different campaign because the people you're playing with absolutely suck.

You are trying to say there is an issue when other people don't have it. You won't get people to agree with you if the people aren't having an issue with vampires.

Personally I think vampires are incredibly gimped in PvP and I almost feel sorry for them ... not quite ... but almost.

If they took mist form away from them then they really would be free kills and have no chance of running away.... I like to see them run away, it gives me the happy.

2 Vamps vs 50 people

http://i.imgur.com/XM4Pns6.jpg

You just don't know what I'm talking about do you? We aren't talking about level 20 *** but VR ranks play here it's Ooverpowered you just didn't happen to see it yet. I got Vamps in my guild and they do exactly the same killing 20 people single hand it is just *** and this is where I think it is terrible game balance design.

And what difference would It make changing fraction it is not about fraction it is about vampires in my frac and in other fractions killing 20 people solo and that is obvious balance issue LOL.

Sarenia

ZRage wrote: »

rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »

ZRage wrote: »

Silver bolt 2k dmg proc deal 200-300 dmg after mist form mitigation you guys really, wtf why I even bother posting here.

single vamp can tank 30 people because of this damage reduction and leech life at Veteran Ranks+ this is completely broken

As I said, mist form doesn't last long.

If you're seeing a vamp tanking 30 people then i'd suggest re rolling your faction or moving to a different campaign because the people you're playing with absolutely suck.

You are trying to say there is an issue when other people don't have it. You won't get people to agree with you if the people aren't having an issue with vampires.

Personally I think vampires are incredibly gimped in PvP and I almost feel sorry for them ... not quite ... but almost.

If they took mist form away from them then they really would be free kills and have no chance of running away.... I like to see them run away, it gives me the happy.

2 Vamps vs 50 people

http://i.imgur.com/XM4Pns6.jpg

You just don't know what I'm talking about do you? We aren't talking about level 20 *** but VR ranks play here it's OP you just didn't happen to see it yet. I got Vamps in my guild and they do exactly the same killing 20 people single hand it is just *** and this is where I think it is terrible game balance design.

And what difference would It make changing fraction it is not about fraction it is about vampires in my frac and in other fractions killing 20 people solo and that is obvious balance issue LOL.

That screenshot doesn't show anything to support your statement. It's just a bunch of dead people with a group of live people nearby. It's not even 50 dead people.

Video or it didn't happen.

Zordrage

Severan wrote: »

Maybe because in mist form you can't heal or attack anything?

they can heal in mistform lol

rawne1980b16_ESO

ZRage wrote: »

2 Vamps vs 50 people

http://i.imgur.com/XM4Pns6.jpg

You just don't know what I'm talking about do you? We aren't talking about level 20 *** but VR ranks play here it's OP you just didn't happen to see it yet. I got Vamps in my guild and they do exactly the same killing 20 people single hand it is just *** and this is where I think it is terrible game balance design.

And what difference would It make changing fraction it is not about fraction it is about vampires in my frac and in other fractions killing 20 people solo and that is obvious balance issue LOL.

All I do is PvP, i've seen vamps from low level to VR 10.

I don't see the problem you mention because I don't stand in a group unless we're bombing and I don't stand near mist or aoe'ing sorcs.

I don't think anything in PvP is OP, I look for solutions.

I see mist, I move away until it fades and then I spam silver bolts.

I see a bomb group and I run like my arse just caught fire.

I don't have a problem with vampires. My biggest problem are well played nightblades. Even then I don't think they are OP they just caught me out in the open and got the jump on me which was my fault.

The only ability I think needs a cooldown timer put on it is the sorc teleport because i'm bored of sorcs starting a fight, losing and then teleporting away with absolutely no chance of catching them up.

In all the hours i've got in PvP I never see a single vampire take out a group of people.

In fact i've never see anything take out a group of 20 people solo. Even amazingly played, amazingly geared VR10's get taken down by a group like that.

And there are more than just 2 vamps in that picture. To be fair, it doesn't show what is a vamp and what isn't. What that picture shows is a group of you died to an ambush group which happens all the time.

Ashigaru

Zoliru wrote: »

Severan wrote: »

Maybe because in mist form you can't heal or attack anything?

they can heal in mistform lol

How, would liked to have known that one when i was a vamp so explain please.

nerevarine1138

Holy Stendarr, how is this debate going on this long?

Obviously, the OP hasn't noticed that Mist Form prevents the vampire from doing any damage or receiving any healing. So it's an emergency button to prevent incoming damage, and nothing else.

Vampires and werewolves get their rear ends handed to them in any PvP engagement where Fighters Guild skills are being used.

ZRage

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Holy Stendarr, how is this debate going on this long?

Obviously, the OP hasn't noticed that Mist Form prevents the vampire from doing any damage or receiving any healing. So it's an emergency button to prevent incoming damage, and nothing else.

Vampires and werewolves get their rear ends handed to them in any PvP engagement where Fighters Guild skills are being used.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Holy Stendarr, how is this debate going on this long?

Obviously, the OP hasn't noticed that Mist Form prevents the vampire from doing any damage or receiving any healing. So it's an emergency button to prevent incoming damage, and nothing else.

Vampires and werewolves get their rear ends handed to them in any PvP engagement where Fighters Guild skills are being used.

Thats the problem kid, mistform got morph that do heavy AOE poison damage. You still receive healing looks like I really need to prepare some video to end this trolling lold.

Someone wrote you have to move away to avoid that o lol, another guy didn't heard they can teleport at you every 0.3 sec lol.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

ZRage wrote: »

WTF is this seriously, single vampire jump in mist into 30 people and kill everything just tell me who in the hell balanced this:

75% damage reduction from mist form + invisibility
30% damage reduction on low health
^All of this stacks with resistance
Mass life leech and recovery
Mass Aoe Damage

Just tell me how this fighters guild skill can make a difference if vamps take 90% less damage due to this *** skills.

Nerf this stupid retardness

L2P Silver Bolts and any fire attack will one shot vamps

ZRage

Another troll omg. Silver Bolts proc. do 200 dmg to mist form.

nerevarine1138

ZRage wrote: »

Another troll omg. Silver Bolts proc. do 200 dmg to mist form.

So don't fire when they're in Mist Form. It is not an insta-kill ability, even with the damage morph.

You're literally the only person on this thread who believes it's a viable tactic.

ZRage

First its not insta kill, because of armor and spell resistance, second it's 5% chance, and third in time vamp isn't in mist form is like 0,2 secs lol. Keep trolling viable solution 100% except it doesn't work.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

It works you just are bad

rawne1980b16_ESO

ZRage wrote: »

Thats the problem kid,

Oh, you're one of those.

Well done for instantly invalidating yourself.

Nothing to see here folks, we have a "mature" one that can't heed advice and would rather rage and then throw "kid" around when people don't agree with him.

No point even bothering with folk like you.

ZRage

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

It works you just are bad

5% of the time, seems balanced, Guess I'm just trolled by vamp users here lololo.

lordspyder

ZRage wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

It works you just are bad

5% of the time, seems balanced, Guess I'm just trolled by vamp users here lololo.

Or you're just terrible...

muze_ESO

Saw the game more of a 'Twilight' team Jacob or team Edward online mmo. When the majority of players become one or the other what is the point.

nerevarine1138

muze_ESO wrote: »

Saw the game more of a 'Twilight' team Jacob or team Edward online mmo. When the majority of players become one or the other what is the point.

When you say "the majority," are you just making that up, or are you citing any kind of real numbers?

SadisticSavior

rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »

ZRage wrote: »

Thats the problem kid,

Oh, you're one of those.

Well done for instantly invalidating yourself.

Dude, you can't expect people to just ignore what 99% of PvP players are telling them and just take your word for it with no evidence at all. You had to have expected this kind of reaction.

C'mon.

I agree with the guy that said video or it didn't happen. If you're the one making the extraordinary claim, you need to provide at least some evidence. That screenshot is not evidence of anything.

Elvent

This is why I wished PvP wasn't in the game, inc nerfs for PvP!

ZRage

So any of you experienced my prophecy yet or not ? We have like vamp squadron in guild already (I myself refuse to take a bite, my chick is too pale anyway lolololo) Yesterday there was like 50 guys that took a standpoint on hard tactical advanatage wallkeep.all we did was sending 2 vampires with bat swarm ultimate fully charged DK snare build, 40 people died in like 5-10 seconds it was just sad I felt sad for them I feel sad for this game balance when I see this everybody turn into this pale red eyed monster just to have PvP advantage. I don't even think there is even one emperor who isn't a damn vampire lol.

But seriously

NERF FIX Vamp ulti, damage, cost, healing (da *** healing per target I guess that is like 500.000 healing per minute if you can manage it correctly)

NERF FIX mist form - When I see people spamming this over and over again being invisible and invulnerable for 0 cost and downside I want to ALT+F4

NERF Passive damage reduction ( I don't get this it mitigates weakness to fire and adds res to everything else beyond any means this is the best passive defense skill in the game )

Klauen

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