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Racial Ultimates?

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Whatever happened to them? At quake con 2013 when they show the racial tree it shows an ultimate. If I remember it was to summon a wolf or some type of animal?

Were these in the test servers? Anyone ever use them if so. I'd love to see these come back at a later date.
  • Sakiri
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    From what I understand it was because they were incredibly imbalanced.
  • Lynx7386
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    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...
    PS4 / NA
    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • taylorwilenskiub17_ESO
    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...

    A type of enrage where they let loose and their animal insticts take over and they claw swipe for high damage and cause DOT bleed. That would be cool haha

  • ghofmann
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    I would love to see these return as well. I'm have faith that they can balance them. For every skill there should be a counter. If one of these ultimates begins to dominate, it's only because the player base is not utilizing the counter skills enough.
  • KenjiJU
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    Not happening. Why? So many are already [butthurt] over the rather insignificant passive bonuses we have now. If they add racial ultimates after players already invested a lot of time in their chars, they'd scream bloody murder.


    Also, having a counter doesn't magically mean something is balanced.
    Edited by KenjiJU on May 4, 2014 3:04AM
  • Earthwardzilvox_ESO
    What would the Imperials be? Summon merchant? There's not really a point, anyway, we have plenty of other ultimates.
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  • Uviryth
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    Will not happen, because if one of those racials would even be 0,0000001% better than the racial of another race, the incredibly mature ESO-Community would drop their pants and start pooping hot brown fudge all over this forum.
    Edited by Uviryth on May 12, 2014 10:57AM
  • ArgonianAssassin
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    Hist Skin, massive HoT?? Yes please. <3:)
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  • TheJadeFist
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    Already have fire mage dark elves. No one is really complaining that that one race does fire magic better then anyone else. So to those saying people would complain too much if a racial ult was better then another's.

    That said, I want more Ults.

    I want racial ults, and weapon ults.

    More options, isn't a bad thing.

    Some of the ults that were leaked included Eye of Fear for khajit which in all honesty would be a stupid ult, but it could allow a non nightblade cat to do fear, though I don't know why you wouldn't want a more reliable and controllable form of CC in its place.

    But if they kept the cat eye's theme for the ult, why not something like Keen Vision, allows the khajitt to see all stealthed/ hidden for short period of time and increasing dmg dealt to targets in stealth or hidden status.


    As far as weapon ults, I can imagine for restoration staff, healing hands, it could be either like the sorc's overload ult but instead heals allies "by attacking them" consuming ult points toggles, or like a healing laser sort of like that ultimate from World/Soul, but instead of an activation cost, it consumes ult points for as long as you hold down the button.

    Idk just ideas i'm throwing out.

    But I'd definitely like to see racial ults, and even weapon ults. I want more things to choose from.
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...

    they were going to get Eye of Fear, like in Oblivion, a racial fear spell..
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  • AlexDougherty
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...

    they were going to get Eye of Fear, like in Oblivion, a racial fear spell..

    Please no, there are much better things to have as an Ultimate.

    Not sure what would work as a Khajiit ultimate.
    Dunmer would have a summon Ancestor ability.
    Argonians would have Hist skin.
    Bosmer would have summon creature.
    Redguards, Bretons and Imperials are hard to guess at.
    Orcs and Nords would probably have a Beserker Skill.
    Altmer might have a magicka refress ability (Magicka refreshes at a high rate for a minute)
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  • Brasseurfb16_ESO
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...

    A type of enrage where they let loose and their animal insticts take over and they claw swipe for high damage and cause DOT bleed. That would be cool haha

    There is a greater chance it would simply have been the "Eyes of Fear". Khajiits used to be able to fear a single target, once a day, for an important duration in TES 3 and TES 4.
    Edited by Brasseurfb16_ESO on December 19, 2014 12:38PM
  • Brasseurfb16_ESO
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...

    they were going to get Eye of Fear, like in Oblivion, a racial fear spell..

    Please no, there are much better things to have as an Ultimate.

    Not sure what would work as a Khajiit ultimate.
    Dunmer would have a summon Ancestor ability.
    Argonians would have Hist skin.
    Bosmer would have summon creature.
    Redguards, Bretons and Imperials are hard to guess at.
    Orcs and Nords would probably have a Beserker Skill.
    Altmer might have a magicka refress ability (Magicka refreshes at a high rate for a minute)

    - For the Redguard, having played a good portion of the TES serie, I suppose they would get the Adrenalin Rush. A buff which increases their battle prowess and leaving them in a weakened state when it fades.
    - Imperials in TES 3 and TES 4 had the Voice of the Emperor which was an ability forcing passification for a short duration, allowing the imperial to briefly speak with the affected humanoid.
    - Nords had a certain affinity with Shock magic and could use Thunder Fist to deal massive damage once a day on a single target at point blank range.

    I think if you look back at Morrowind and Oblivion you can find most of the ultimates for the current races in TES:O
    Edited by Brasseurfb16_ESO on December 19, 2014 12:50PM
  • AlexDougherty
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...

    they were going to get Eye of Fear, like in Oblivion, a racial fear spell..

    Please no, there are much better things to have as an Ultimate.

    Not sure what would work as a Khajiit ultimate.
    Dunmer would have a summon Ancestor ability.
    Argonians would have Hist skin.
    Bosmer would have summon creature.
    Redguards, Bretons and Imperials are hard to guess at.
    Orcs and Nords would probably have a Beserker Skill.
    Altmer might have a magicka refress ability (Magicka refreshes at a high rate for a minute)

    - For the Redguard, having played a good portion of the TES serie, I suppose they would get the Adrenalin Rush. A buff which increases their battle prowess and leaving them in a weakened state when it fades.
    - Imperials in TES 3 and TES 4 had the Voice of the Emperor which was an ability forcing passification for a short duration, allowing the imperial to briefly speak with the affected humanoid.
    - Nords had a certain affinity with Shock magic and could use Thunder Fist to deal massive damage once a day on a single target at point blank range.

    I think if you look back at Morrowind and Oblivion you can find most of the ultimates for the current races in TES:O

    Well I had dismissed Adrenalin Rush as unworthy of an ultimate, it might be ok if you got rid of the negative, but would probably just end up as a stamina boost.

    Voice of the Emperor is unworkable in an MMO, not worth the skill point against NPCs, and players would have to be able to ignore it.

    The Shock damage for Nords would be good though.

    And as I said I have no Idea what a Khajiit ultimate would be like.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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    Passion rules reason
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    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • Brasseurfb16_ESO
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...

    they were going to get Eye of Fear, like in Oblivion, a racial fear spell..

    Please no, there are much better things to have as an Ultimate.

    Not sure what would work as a Khajiit ultimate.
    Dunmer would have a summon Ancestor ability.
    Argonians would have Hist skin.
    Bosmer would have summon creature.
    Redguards, Bretons and Imperials are hard to guess at.
    Orcs and Nords would probably have a Beserker Skill.
    Altmer might have a magicka refress ability (Magicka refreshes at a high rate for a minute)

    - For the Redguard, having played a good portion of the TES serie, I suppose they would get the Adrenalin Rush. A buff which increases their battle prowess and leaving them in a weakened state when it fades.
    - Imperials in TES 3 and TES 4 had the Voice of the Emperor which was an ability forcing passification for a short duration, allowing the imperial to briefly speak with the affected humanoid.
    - Nords had a certain affinity with Shock magic and could use Thunder Fist to deal massive damage once a day on a single target at point blank range.

    I think if you look back at Morrowind and Oblivion you can find most of the ultimates for the current races in TES:O

    Well I had dismissed Adrenalin Rush as unworthy of an ultimate, it might be ok if you got rid of the negative, but would probably just end up as a stamina boost.

    Voice of the Emperor is unworkable in an MMO, not worth the skill point against NPCs, and players would have to be able to ignore it.

    The Shock damage for Nords would be good though.

    And as I said I have no Idea what a Khajiit ultimate would be like.

    Well, voice of the emperor could always be changed in the MMO to work like a "Charm" target, making it fight for you for a set duration. We are faced against a lot of traitors corrupted by Imperials in the game so it could make some sense.

    And like multiple people said before, Khajiit would more likely have the "Eye of Fear" as an ultimate, which in previous TES games was a long duration fear.
    Edited by Brasseurfb16_ESO on December 21, 2014 11:12AM
  • AlexDougherty
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Huh, wonder what the khajiit ultimate would wind up being...

    they were going to get Eye of Fear, like in Oblivion, a racial fear spell..

    Please no, there are much better things to have as an Ultimate.

    Not sure what would work as a Khajiit ultimate.
    Dunmer would have a summon Ancestor ability.
    Argonians would have Hist skin.
    Bosmer would have summon creature.
    Redguards, Bretons and Imperials are hard to guess at.
    Orcs and Nords would probably have a Beserker Skill.
    Altmer might have a magicka refress ability (Magicka refreshes at a high rate for a minute)

    - For the Redguard, having played a good portion of the TES serie, I suppose they would get the Adrenalin Rush. A buff which increases their battle prowess and leaving them in a weakened state when it fades.
    - Imperials in TES 3 and TES 4 had the Voice of the Emperor which was an ability forcing passification for a short duration, allowing the imperial to briefly speak with the affected humanoid.
    - Nords had a certain affinity with Shock magic and could use Thunder Fist to deal massive damage once a day on a single target at point blank range.

    I think if you look back at Morrowind and Oblivion you can find most of the ultimates for the current races in TES:O

    Well I had dismissed Adrenalin Rush as unworthy of an ultimate, it might be ok if you got rid of the negative, but would probably just end up as a stamina boost.

    Voice of the Emperor is unworkable in an MMO, not worth the skill point against NPCs, and players would have to be able to ignore it.

    The Shock damage for Nords would be good though.

    And as I said I have no Idea what a Khajiit ultimate would be like.

    Well, voice of the emperor could always be changed in the MMO to work like a "Charm" target, making it fight for you for a set duration. We are faced against a lot of traitors corrupted by Imperials in the game so it could make some sense.

    And like multiple people said before, Khajiit would more likely have the "Eye of Fear" as an ultimate, which in previous TES games was a long duration fear.

    I don't think Eye of Fear would be worth it as an ultimate, it was a nice spell in TES games, but the fact you would need to charge up your ultimate everytime you use it would make it less than appealing. Same for Voice of the Emperor.

    We would need something in a similar vein but fit for an ultimate.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • newtinmpls
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    I could see Voice of the Emporer as being potentially useful in delves where you have swarms of humanoids such as goblins.
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  • NordJitsu
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    Voice of the Emperor would work fine in an MMO. It wouldn't have to be charm. It could be a yell that causes fear, or a decrease in the armor of nearby enemies (ie. morale), or any other number of effects.
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  • Lynx7386
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    I'd go with Night eye for khajiit.

    Night Eye
    Reveals all hidden and invisible enemies within 20 meters and increases your critical strike chance by 20%. Toggle on/off.

    Racial version of inner light.
    PS4 / NA
    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
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