WTF do you mean I can't ignore any more accounts?

loudent
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You guys are aware of the spam problem right? The kind of spam that makes normal zone chat impossible? Please tell me you know. Well, if you want to take your time and come up with a solution that's fine, but for the mean time remove the cap on accounts I can ignore.

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  • LIQUID741
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    I agree it is a bit frustrating...I dont even hit ignore anymore. Im oblivious to the spam now. I've changed up my chat colors to reflect mostly guild chat so that is what I pay attention too. I know it will get better, just gotta have some reluctant patience...
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  • Lazarus_Long
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    They seem to be banning them very fast. I have had to remove old entries from my ignore list just to add new ones though. The list will hold about six pages I think and while I agree that a much longer one would be nice, it's not too much of a pain to remove them from the list. I wrote up some /feedback in game about it asking for a date added column to be added to the list so you could which were the oldest and most likely banned accounts.
    Edited by Lazarus_Long on April 19, 2014 5:09AM
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  • Noxious
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    Perhaps an expire on the blocked accounts after so many days of inactivity. If a bot or annoying person quits or is banned no need for a block anymore.Thinking of the old newsgroup filters that were available back in the day.
  • WhiteQueen
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    Only part of the problem is the measly number of accounts you can ignore. The other part is that accounts you ignore are arranged alphabetically. There's no option to organise by date. So you can't un-ignore earlier accounts (those that had already been banned.) It's a small but legitimate problem.
  • Coggage
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    An addon such as X4DLibAntiSpam is the answer. I quote from the addon description...

    Does not fill up your in-game ignore list, blocking is performed internally.
    Whitelists your Friends, Group Members and Guild Members.
    Spam Patterns are Editable via Settings UI.
    Detects Spammers, and blocks them for the duration of your session.
    Detects Flooders, and temporarily blocks them for a user-configurable duration.
    Detects "Gold Spammer Guild Invites" and auto-declines them.
    Can be used as a Library by other Add-Ons, such as X4D Chat (integration requires Add-On author support.)
    Can be used as a stand-alone Add-On to auto-filter Spammers and Flooders from Chat.


    Since it does not add to the ignore list, I added foreign words for "guild" as well as others such as wtt, wts and wtb to the filter list and the result is a much quieter chat box. If someone makes a chat post containing those words, the posts don't appear. If the same person makes a chat comment without those words in it, their chat post will appear.

    (The addon is frequently updated, sometimes a couple of times a day or more.)
    Edited by Coggage on April 19, 2014 5:44AM
  • Glurin
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    It would be nice to be able to sort your ignore list by age or date they were ignored. That way you can clear out the old ones, which by now have either been banned or are otherwise no longer in use.
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  • Coggage
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    Yes, on the rare times I do /ignore someone it would be nice if there was an option to automatically remove them from the ignore list in a week or two.
  • Lazarus_Long
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    The auto-ignore add-ons are nice, but the API for add-ons lacks the ability to build in auto-reporting. So even if you have an unlimited ignore list with it, it doesn't do much to solve the problem at a root level. With an add-on like that you won't even see it to be able to report it. Honestly though, I am glad they are spending most of their time getting things fixed. Once their bug list gets put in it's place I am sure we will see a lot of it was dedicated to eradicating gold sellers and other exploiters.
    Edited by Lazarus_Long on April 19, 2014 6:41AM
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  • Makkir
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    One of the most proactive measures is to stop buying gold period
  • Coggage
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    The auto-ignore add-ons are nice, but the API for add-ons lacks the ability to build in auto-reporting. So even if you have an unlimited ignore list with it, it doesn't do much to solve the problem at a root level. With an add-on like that you won't even see it to be able to report it.
    The thread is about getting a full /ignore list caused by people spamming, rather than simply goldsellers. The constant influx of guild recruiting, wts, wtt and wtb is far more common - and downright annoying - than goldsellers, to be honest. You can't follow a conversation or ask/answer a question because by the time you've typed something 4 or 5 people have decided they want to advertise their guild or buy/sell something. The chat window can be a blur sometimes.
  • Lazarus_Long
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    Coggage wrote: »
    The auto-ignore add-ons are nice, but the API for add-ons lacks the ability to build in auto-reporting. So even if you have an unlimited ignore list with it, it doesn't do much to solve the problem at a root level. With an add-on like that you won't even see it to be able to report it.
    The thread is about getting a full /ignore list caused by people spamming, rather than simply goldsellers. The constant influx of guild recruiting, wts, wtt and wtb is far more common - and downright annoying - than goldsellers, to be honest. You can't follow a conversation or ask/answer a question because by the time you've typed something 4 or 5 people have decided they want to advertise their guild or buy/sell something. The chat window can be a blur sometimes.

    I do think that adding a trade channel or even a trade channel just for guild members would limit WTB and WTB spamchat would be good. But from my own experience more the 75% of my ignore list has been gold sellers. I see more people complain about it than any other kind of chat spam.
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  • Sallakat
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    WTF there is a limit to ignores?!!? I have been talking about it in zone chat with ppl that we truly hope there wasn't.... before they can effectively deal with the [snip] I really would hope that they remove the limit to ignore -.- luckily on my main (dominion) I don't see any gold spam in the chat but it's unbearable in the daggerfall where I'm currently at Stormhaven playing my alt. Installed some spam filter addon but it doesn't even work properly ffs.
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  • Coggage
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    I do think that adding a trade channel or even a trade channel just for guild members would limit WTB and WTB spamchat would be good. But from my own experience more the 75% of my ignore list has been gold sellers. I see more people complain about it than any other kind of chat spam.
    The problem with Trade channels is that, invariably, hardly anyone would use them. People would rather have the biggest audience they can find and beat the saps (as they see it) who stick to the Trade channel to the punch so they spam the main chat channel. This has been the case in the dozens of mmorpgs I've played in the last 15 years.

    Even if there was a Guild Recruitment channel almost no-one would use it because they' too, want to reach as many people as possible. The five or six line guild spiels, one after the other from various people, annoy me more than goldsellers, tbh.

    As for goldsellers, I /report the variants that get past my filters. After that, job done, I add the variant to my filters and then I'm just glad I don't have to see them any more.
  • Strontium-Dog
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    Spam filter addon doesnt help things really because all it does is *ignore* or filter which means if we all use it no bot/spammer gets reported.
  • Coggage
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    Spam filter addon doesnt help things really because all it does is *ignore* or filter which means if we all use it no bot/spammer gets reported.
    Read "As for goldsellers, I /report the variants that get past my filters. After that, job done, I add the variant to my filters and then I'm just glad I don't have to see them any more." again, carefully.

    Just report a goldselling site once, then filter it out. Zenimax will have had a few thousand /reports about the site within minutes, if not seconds. If, at some point the goldseller comes up with a new variant, I can report that, add it to the filter, rinse and repeat. The goldselling website never changes its address, so seeing the sales pitch and reporting the site 12 times in the space of 15 minutes is just a waste of my time - once is enough.
  • rawne1980b16_ESO
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    I have zone chat turned off when i'm not in PvP.

    The spam is awful and I can't be bothered ignoring every single spam account that pops up, there are far too many.
  • Rhylanna
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    Someone in another thread suggested having banned account names become greyed out in your ignore list so that you would know they could be deleted. I thought this was a great idea. Even though it would primarily affect gold sellers, those make up 99% of my ignores. I think I will /feedback that one in game today.

    My other /feedback today will be to have a /report option that will report and ignore at the same time. I know that has been suggested many times also.
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  • Thesiren
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    Reporting gold spammers does no good; if they're shut down, they just come back two seconds later with another illegal account rolled with yet another stolen credit card. And then Zenimax gets charge back fees once the real credit card owners get wind of what went on. You're actually just pushing hackers into more crime by reporting them (and that's what gold farming is, peeps-- organized crime). And Zenimax is wasting its time playing cleanup/banning for the very same reason.

    Zenimax needs to perfect automatic "chat spam and mail spam suppression." They should talk to Sony Entertainment Online, who is a black belt at this. Everquest 2 has not seen a single gold farmer spam in the chat, or via /tell, or via mail, in many years. Not one. And EQ2 has been F2P for years now to boot.

    In this day and age, this whole spam onslaught just makes Zenimax look quite noobish.
    Edited by Thesiren on April 19, 2014 11:21AM
  • rideh
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    Just purge your list and let your addons ignore them all over again. Most have been banned, it's spring.
  • nerevarine1138
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    Stop wasting ignore space on gold spammers, because those are throwaway accounts. At most, you'll get two or three chat messages before they're banned or before they switch.

    Save ignores for the actual players who are just plain annoying.
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  • Cwynlaen
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    Coggage wrote: »
    An addon such as X4DLibAntiSpam is the answer. I quote from the addon description...

    Does not fill up your in-game ignore list, blocking is performed internally.
    Whitelists your Friends, Group Members and Guild Members.
    Spam Patterns are Editable via Settings UI.
    Detects Spammers, and blocks them for the duration of your session.
    Detects Flooders, and temporarily blocks them for a user-configurable duration.
    Detects "Gold Spammer Guild Invites" and auto-declines them.
    Can be used as a Library by other Add-Ons, such as X4D Chat (integration requires Add-On author support.)
    Can be used as a stand-alone Add-On to auto-filter Spammers and Flooders from Chat.


    Since it does not add to the ignore list, I added foreign words for "guild" as well as others such as wtt, wts and wtb to the filter list and the result is a much quieter chat box. If someone makes a chat post containing those words, the posts don't appear. If the same person makes a chat comment without those words in it, their chat post will appear.

    (The addon is frequently updated, sometimes a couple of times a day or more.)

    I'll have to check that one out again. The first and last time I tried that, it locked up my computer shortly after logging into any character.
    Edited by Cwynlaen on April 19, 2014 2:20PM
  • Coggage
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    It's always worked flawlessly for me. Give it a try. :)
  • BETAOPTICS
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    Yeah I I ignore the comments mostly. I would love to do something about spammers but sometimes there are people who just aren't capable of typing more than few words at a time and post, for whatever reason.

    So I listen to those if I am checking the chat but I usually don't look at it at all unless there is a good time to look it.
  • Zordrage
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    Ignored Player from Our Ignore list should be Automaticaly Removed if that account is banned

    Prob Solved..............
  • Strontium-Dog
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    tbh i dont give a toss about spammers as they are easy to ignore, its the bots grouped in dungeons and stealing resources that make ZOS look like idiots
  • Artemiisia
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    I have installed spam filter, that way my ignore list is almost empty still
  • Meogi
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    Coggage wrote: »
    I do think that adding a trade channel or even a trade channel just for guild members would limit WTB and WTB spamchat would be good. But from my own experience more the 75% of my ignore list has been gold sellers. I see more people complain about it than any other kind of chat spam.
    The problem with Trade channels is that, invariably, hardly anyone would use them. People would rather have the biggest audience they can find and beat the saps (as they see it) who stick to the Trade channel to the punch so they spam the main chat channel. This has been the case in the dozens of mmorpgs I've played in the last 15 years.

    Even if there was a Guild Recruitment channel almost no-one would use it because they' too, want to reach as many people as possible. The five or six line guild spiels, one after the other from various people, annoy me more than goldsellers, tbh.

    As for goldsellers, I /report the variants that get past my filters. After that, job done, I add the variant to my filters and then I'm just glad I don't have to see them any more.

    Wouldn't a Trade chat be successful if it was across all zones (except Cyrodiel)?

    On topic, I Will give the addons a try. I believe I saw one for easy report bots too, anyone with experience with that one?
  • jircris11
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    sadly i have to clear my ignore list once every 2 days because of the measly limit
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  • Pretext
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    I just report gold sellers. Keep your ignore for other players who get on your nerves. I don't think I have ever been sent an email by the same gold seller twice.

    The OP is clearly an over excitable type, you don't need to say 'WtF' this and 'effin' that. If you did in game I would be putting you on ignore. :)
    Edited by Pretext on April 26, 2014 10:44AM
  • Orizuru
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    Storage space on a server is very limited for MMOs when you consider how much data they have to store for the number of players that exist in the game. If they allowed your ZOS managed ignore list to grow unchecked, their servers would be crashing day and night and nobody would be able to play the game. Every single MMO ever made has had a limit to how many names you can ignore before you either need to remove names from the list yourself, or allow the game to remove the first/oldest name on the list automatically when you ignore a new name when your list is full.

    An external add on is the best solution. The add on can provide a way to ignore an infinite number of names because the list is stored on your local computer instead of the game's servers.
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