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Motes in the Moonlight – Seriously?!?
kirnmalidus
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I know there are already other threads about this, but I wanted to see if we could approach this from a different angle - instead of just complaining maybe we can figure this out?
From what I can gather in the forums and talking to people in game, the quest works like this:
The problem with this is that this is happening in a public zone in an MMO, and there is absolutely no way to get people to stop running up and killing the mobs before they see what is going on in the local chat. The NPC operation takes too long for her to complete it before someone kills the mobs.
I think we can all agree that a mechanic in quest that relies on people not killing mobs in an MMO is terrible design, and needs to be corrected right away (why it hasn't been changed already is beyond me).
In the mean time, is there anything we can do (beyond awareness) to get people through this quest? What has worked for people?
From what I can gather in the forums and talking to people in game, the quest works like this:
- You talk to the NPC and she goes up on the shrine
- She does her thing, which involves the mobs at the foot of the shrine steps staying alive
- Eventually (after a period of time with the mobs alive) she cleanses the shrine
The problem with this is that this is happening in a public zone in an MMO, and there is absolutely no way to get people to stop running up and killing the mobs before they see what is going on in the local chat. The NPC operation takes too long for her to complete it before someone kills the mobs.
I think we can all agree that a mechanic in quest that relies on people not killing mobs in an MMO is terrible design, and needs to be corrected right away (why it hasn't been changed already is beyond me).
In the mean time, is there anything we can do (beyond awareness) to get people through this quest? What has worked for people?
Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
- @ruze84b14_ESO
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
- @ruze84b14_ESO
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✭I was just with a formed group of about 20 people attempting to do this quest by directing traffic, timing stealth approaches, etc.... but we had a troll killing the mobs for fun to spite us.
..but I really can't blame the troll. This is entirely a design oversight on Zenimax's part.
What annoys me the most about it is: it's been broken for about a week now... and there's been no word from them about it.0 -
kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭Well they've announced a maintenance tomorrow morning, hopefully this fix is part of that maintenance. If not I may be done playing for a while.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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The dark mane is glitched aswell when you get inside the temple, he'll disappear at 50% and summon tigers which you'll kill and when he brings it out the 3rd tiger group he'll glitch out and go back to 100%0
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poochie✭✭✭To me its funny how FFXIV has a lot of quests like Motes in the Moonlight where the player goes to some spot clicks a npc or object and spawns their own mobs hinted by the red texted names not purple. Wonder why ESO can't do things this way.0
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kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭No word in the patch notes about this quest… bummer.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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Here's an example of what exactly is going on right now.
There are about 80 players standing there trying to get it done. That was just the one evening I gave enough craps to try and get it done.
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Optional✭Absolutely pathetic. Not even a fix for it in the patch notes. On top of blocked progression out of reaper's march... yeah i'll totally be playing this past the free 30 days.0
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kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭Well we can hope they fixed it and left it out of the patch notes, but I doubt that. This is ridiculous. Why would the put effort into fixing the rescue the gambler quest in Reaper's March but not the quest that is blocking main faction quest line progress for everyone. That's not what I'd call good bug squashing prioritization. Just because one bug is easier to fix than another doesn't mean it should be fixed first.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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They probably just need to make that npc mob unable to be attacked, that she does her beam of light on.1 -
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✭IT'S NOT BEEN FIXED. STILL RIDICULOUSLY BROKEN... with 80 people standing around the Beacon.1 -
kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭I submitted a request for support through the website. I missed the call (they called the next day when I was at work instead of that night as they said they would), but I received a response via email with some hope in it:We understand that you are having issues with the Quest Motes in the Moonlight and we would like to apologize for that!
We are aware of this issue and we have a dedicated team of developers crafting a solution that will allow you to complete it.
I understand that it is important as a customer that all works as expected and, you can trust us that we aiming at keeping you pleased and interested.
We just need to request you cooperation through the form of time that will allow us to resolve it on your behalf.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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Asava✭✭✭If they were standing at the arch down the path instead of up on the shrine it would work itself out and complete the scripted encounter.0
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Justiciar✭✭✭I was able to complete this yesterday. Guess I got lucky when I decided to check on it. Only like 3 people around the pillar instead of the normal raid groups I've seen around itConquest, Victory, Profit0 -
Kellhus✭✭It's horrible right now, but it can be done with a little organization. We formed a raid and did it, and got lucky no one ran up for the couple of minutes it took.0
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Macoy✭Like i put in the other post about this quest i opened up a ticket and all i got back was crap.
"I am sorry to hear that you are having difficulties with your quest. We believe a small family of mudcrabs has taken up shelter in our systems. Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention. Please know we will forward this issue to our team for resolution.
In the meantime, here are some troubleshooting tips that may help you as we work towards a more permanent solution. We recommend that you try the following:
Typing /reloadui in your chatbox, for graphics or user-interface issues
Typing /camp in your chatbox, which logs you out.
Log out and exit the game then wait 15 minutes before logging back in. By doing this, you are performing a soft-reset which will clear out the cache and allow the game to load properly.
You can venture off to complete other quests, allowing time to pass and the greater possibility being able to interact with the NPC
It is also possible that you can return with a party and attempt the quest with a fresh start (after sharing the quest via group tab)
As a last resort you can try abandoning the quest and re-acquire it"
really come on.Edited by Macoy on April 17, 2014 7:17PM0 -
Leiloni✭✭✭So can someone explain what I'm supposed to do then? I tell the mob I'll protect her but I'm actually supposed to not protect her? And just let mobs run up? What does she do then, does she kill them or what? Also mobs keep bugging out at like 20% HP and not despawning but also not being able to be killed. I don't know what is supposed to happen I just know it is bugged and can't complete. We even tried making a nice line and I patiently waited but people kept coming up and messing it up. Wtf am I supposed to do as the player here? I honestly do not get it. I thought I was supposed to kill stuff but if that's not the case then why did the quest tell me to kill stuff? And why do the mobs attack me if I have to ignore them?Edited by Leiloni on April 21, 2014 2:33AM0
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kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭The patch notes for today's update say it's been fixed… fingers crossed.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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It if fixed but Dune quest is broken now. The one after you enter portal and save.
So annoying and frustrating.
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kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭Bummer about the Dune quest for you, but I was able to complete the questline and be done with Reaper's March. Thank you Zenimax.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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Etori✭✭✭Nick_Klaus wrote: »It if fixed but Dune quest is broken now. The one after you enter portal and save.
So annoying and frustrating.
Was able to complete it just fine a little bit ago.
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Sykotik_ESO✭✭✭It sucks that its becoming such a problem.I agree, however if its blocking you from getting to coldharbour as your problem just have a person who's been there let you tell to them and problem solved for now.
Its not fixing the quest but its a work around and helps you keep progressing.0
