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1st free month is the most important time for developers

Jimmyfi
Jimmyfi
I've been playing ESO for few weeks now, stories are nice and so on, but the .. damn.. BUGS. They seem to appear in very important part of the quests and block story progress entirely since there doesnt seem to be a way around them.

Customer support offers the same old suggestions "to try fix the event" but rarely they work, nor the Customer support people have the tools to fix them by themselfs.
Tickets just go upward the chain and are fixed when ever.. and this brings us to the topic of this discussion.

People get frustrated by this and I believe quite a few of the players press unsubscribe and do not return to the game since this is the most important time to make fixes to the bugs all the time, be active with customer support and help people around. During the weekend there is little or no support around at all and this is shown as +50 players stuck at quest in an public instance from which few have been waiting for hours for something to happen.

This Is Very Bad. I myself have already unsubscribed to the game since there is no value of being stuck and unable to process forward in the zone since quest is bugged and no followups cannot be obtained. Moving to next zone is an option yes, but you will get beaten so badle and the loot is +5 levels away from you. Wippiih.

So Developers Fix n Apply as many times you can during the day. Fix the Game!
Edited by Jimmyfi on April 14, 2014 10:59AM
  • Chomag
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    Personally, I don't believe I will continue playing past the free month. The game is in a terrible state:
    *poor engine optimization. Players having a poor performance even on very good machines. Granted, this seems to affect some players.
    *bugs everywhere
    *poorly implemented features
    -ninja looters in dungeons who loot chests and can't be kicked from group,
    -way too much traveling,
    -way too slow leveling,
    -way too late access to weapon switching,
    -bad idea to allow attributes influence how much damage the attacks that use those attributes. In fact the attributes should be baked in and removed from player control. They are unnecessary and tedious.
    -pvp is terrible and whoever gets the 1st shot wins in 90% of cases, as players drop like flies.
    -often enough very long loading screens just get exit a building.
    -resources are being drained way too fast and replenish too slowly, this causes a tedious combat where doing fun things happens rarer than you might want.
    *severe lack of fluff
    -no chat boxes,
    -no transmogrification,
    -no easy access to respecs,
    -no auctionhouse
    -etc
    Edited by Chomag on April 14, 2014 11:05AM
  • Zordrage
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    Chomag wrote: »
    Personally, I don't believe I will continue playing past the free month. The game is in a terrible state:
    *poor engine optimization. Players having a poor performance even on very good machines. Granted, this seems to affect some players.
    *bugs everywhere
    *poorly implemented features
    -ninja looters in dungeons who loot chests and can't be kicked from group,
    -way too much traveling,
    -way too slow leveling,
    -way too late access to weapon switching,
    -bad idea to allow attributes influence how much damage the attacks that use those attributes. In fact the attributes should be baked in and removed from player control. They are unnecessary and tedious.
    -pvp is terrible and whoever gets the 1st shot wins in 90% of cases, as players drop like flies.
    -often enough very long loading screens just get exit a building.
    *severe lack of fluff
    -no chat boxes,
    -no transmogrification,
    -no easy access to respecs,
    -no auctionhouse
    -etc

    Poor engine Optimazation ? im using an i3 and im playing in full HD with everything maxed out with no issues.........

    bugs everywhere ( i agree )

    Ninja Looters ( agree )

    Way too much traveling ? WHAT ? sory but i dont want to play another MMO that have tiny zones everywhere and in this game traveling and exploring is half the fun.

    Way to slow leveling ? its perfect i mean stop trying to rush through the game under 5 days just to come here then complain about the lack of content to do...

    too late acces to weapon swiching ( agree )

    Attributes are fine if they would not influence the dmg EVERYONE and his mother would stack HP only......

    PvP 1st attacker wins not true get some dmg immunities or a few sec invisibility and you can turn the tied the people who only put dmg abbilities on the bar are the ones who die like this always....
    ( but i agree that the dmg needs to be nerfed a litle )

    Long loading screens on exit of building yep ( true )

    no chat boxes ( personal preference but its fine by me the world is not clutered with text everywhere at least )

    No transmog ( i dont think we need it i mean you can Craft in Every factions appearence with motifs )

    No easy acces to respect ( fine by me at least people have reason to run arround in towns )

    no auction house ( im a 50/50 on this i mean it helps trading but after sometime even the *** low lvl stuff would cost 6000 gold that only people with mains could buy anything it happens in every mmo it gets overpriced and that will be the normal....... )

  • byghostlightrwb17_ESO
    Chomag wrote: »
    Personally, I don't believe I will continue playing past the free month. The game is in a terrible state:
    *poor engine optimization. Players having a poor performance even on very good machines. Granted, this seems to affect some players.
    *bugs everywhere
    *poorly implemented features
    -ninja looters in dungeons who loot chests and can't be kicked from group,
    -way too much traveling,
    -way too slow leveling,
    -way too late access to weapon switching,
    -bad idea to allow attributes influence how much damage the attacks that use those attributes. In fact the attributes should be baked in and removed from player control. They are unnecessary and tedious.
    -pvp is terrible and whoever gets the 1st shot wins in 90% of cases, as players drop like flies.
    -often enough very long loading screens just get exit a building.
    -resources are being drained way too fast and replenish too slowly, this causes a tedious combat where doing fun things happens rarer than you might want.
    *severe lack of fluff
    -no chat boxes,
    -no transmogrification,
    -no easy access to respecs,
    -no auctionhouse
    -etc

    Way too much time traveling? there are wayshrines EVERYWHERE, barely a five minute run between them, the zones themselves arent exactly big anywhere. Hate to see how you would have cope with a real MMO. Quick travel is lame.

    Way too slow leveling? How? I am 22 and barely started in the level 15 zone. XP is everywhere. Crack one chest and there is 1/5 level right there.

    Not everything in a game should be instantaneous. No to the weapon switching earlier.

    No attributes points? I dont even begin to understand what the problem with it is.

    Resource management is in your control. If it isnt work change it. Shake things up, read things, watch things.

    Fluff comes after the game gets settled.

    As for the rest of the "I want this to be WoW and because it isnt, it sucks" the gaming world was doing brilliant until that stupid thing came and hardwired people brains into a "this is how games have to be"

    News Flash things like load times, bugs and poorly implemented all existed there when it came out and badly, yet it survived. I am amazed to read how many people expect this game to be in the same state, with the same features as that has after 10 years right away.
  • Tessitura
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    Chomag wrote: »
    Personally, I don't believe I will continue playing past the free month. The game is in a terrible state:
    *poor engine optimization. Players having a poor performance even on very good machines. Granted, this seems to affect some players.
    *bugs everywhere
    *poorly implemented features
    -ninja looters in dungeons who loot chests and can't be kicked from group,
    -way too much traveling,
    -way too slow leveling,
    -way too late access to weapon switching,
    -bad idea to allow attributes influence how much damage the attacks that use those attributes. In fact the attributes should be baked in and removed from player control. They are unnecessary and tedious.
    -pvp is terrible and whoever gets the 1st shot wins in 90% of cases, as players drop like flies.
    -often enough very long loading screens just get exit a building.
    -resources are being drained way too fast and replenish too slowly, this causes a tedious combat where doing fun things happens rarer than you might want.
    *severe lack of fluff
    -no chat boxes,
    -no transmogrification,
    -no easy access to respecs,
    -no auctionhouse
    -etc


    -The optimization is great.

    -I love the travel time in the game. Gives it a more epic feel like how WoW used to feel.

    -The leveling speed is fine. I like that being a higher lvl means a little more then it does in some other games *cough* WoW's insta lvl 90 *cough*

    -The Attribute system in this game is great for an mmorpg. Makes the game a little bit deeper adding another level of balance and personal flare to your toons, without being too hard for a more general audiance to grasp. "Baked in and out of the player's control" is one of the dumbest things a person can say about how an RPG should be. They do a perfectly good job making your attribute decision making a balanced process. It sounds to me like you just don't like to think about how you are going to build your character and have never played an RPG outside of a WoW style RPG.

    -The PVP is fine. I player a pure sorc mage, meaning I am very squishy but I am not a stupid dps cannon that just burns every thing I have at one guy. I manage to escape all but the most brutal of overkill zergs all the time. CC is my best friend and its true, when I am caught I am caught, the trick is not to let your self get caught. Try using potions. I always have a few invisibility potions on me to break player aggro or an unstoppable potion to break snares. There are all kinds of ways to preform well out side of a brainless display of simple button mashing in a rotation with macros.

    -" resources are being drained way too fast and replenish too slowly, this causes a tedious combat where doing fun things happens rarer than you might want. " These should effect each other in no way shape or form. I have no problems getting what I need.

    -Try addons if you want a chat box so bad. They will have them soon enough.

    - Transmog is a dumb thing to look for as a deal breaker in a game. Not to mention it is a " painted *** feature" in an RPG. (That means I don't like the idea.)

    - The access to the respec does not bug me, but charging for a full respec when i just want to change one skill point is a little absurd. Should just let you pick what you want to undo then charge you based on how many skill points you reset, or some form of thing like that.

    - I like not having an auction house, gives it a more sandbox feel and haggling is a thing in this game. It also gives a bigger social purpose to guilds, and the merchant guild thing is cool as cucumbers.

    I find most of your complaints to be foolish and a very COD style gamer complaint (In other words I think that it is very immature.) This games launch has been pretty good to me so far, especially considering the first few mouths of WoW's launch. I am glade that you are canceling your subscription. Because as far as I am concerned your version of this game would be trash and is not welcome here.

    The OP has a much more valid complaint and I urge patiants as they fix the game. Trust me when I say that this game is doing good for its launch period. Peoples standards are too high for MMO launches now-a-days. Too many of you where not there for the launch of a lot of the games by which they use to judge the news ones, so they do not have a proper perspective for which to judge a launch by.
  • lslingsby1984rwb17_ESO
    this is a great post i only wish the game developers to read and actually respond with something meaningful. In stead of the usual mud crabs have gotten into your system or some other crap robot generated response. I hope all magazine reviewers encounter all of these bugs and slam the *** out of zenimax in their reviews for it. Maybe then we will see some action
  • Zordrage
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    this is a great post i only wish the game developers to read and actually respond with something meaningful. In stead of the usual mud crabs have gotten into your system or some other crap robot generated response. I hope all magazine reviewers encounter all of these bugs and slam the *** out of zenimax in their reviews for it. Maybe then we will see some action

    yersteday there was a patch that fixed allot of quest issue can you stop acting like they don't do *** ?
  • Azzuria
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    OP, some of your complaints are truly valid. Progress-stopping bugs are a stone ***. But calling things like no chat-boxes or transmog a 'game-breaker' is simply silly. As for travel time... there was more travel time in vanilla WoW, before Cata and the implementation of 17 FPs per zone ( I exaggerate only slightly ). Not to mention that, for some of us, it's all that glorious space between wayshrines that holds the most magic. Crafting mats, hidden areas and quest, treasure chest, beautiful vistas.
    Brunhilda Icehammer - Nord Dragonknight, 'Smith & Enchantress 'What is 'ranged? I need to hit something!!'
    Laehl Direthorn - Bosmer Nightblade, Purveyor of fine Clothes, Bows and Staves
    Reeza gra-Zuni - Orc Templar 'War Shaman' and Apothecary
    Noemi Snowpaw - Kajiit Dragon Knight - I laugh... or I'd have to kill you.
    Kitera Dreamon - Breton of The Dominion: Because those Daggers don't appreciate a great Mage.
    Lysara Shadowcroft - Dunmer Bloodmage: This will only hurt a lot.
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    I disagree. Those that leave after 30 days would do so anyways.
  • lslingsby1984rwb17_ESO
    Zoliru wrote: »
    this is a great post i only wish the game developers to read and actually respond with something meaningful. In stead of the usual mud crabs have gotten into your system or some other crap robot generated response. I hope all magazine reviewers encounter all of these bugs and slam the *** out of zenimax in their reviews for it. Maybe then we will see some action

    yersteday there was a patch that fixed allot of quest issue can you stop acting like they don't do *** ?


    My issue is still going so don't act like u know what your talking about. Over 8 days and they are still *** about. Meant to have a gm but yet another promise from technical support that was not followed up
  • Acapella75
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    I disagree. Those that leave after 30 days would do so anyways.

    That's just myopic and untrue. If this game wasn't a bug ridden mess, I'd stick around much longer. You don't have to white knight the game by ignoring all these bugs or downplay them and people bothered by them.

  • lslingsby1984rwb17_ESO
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Could not be more true
  • Azarul
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    Talk about lack of patience out of you guys. IMO there is no way the bugs are what will make you quit. You don't like the game in general, ok great I get that, its not for everyone. However I think blaming it on some bugs that will get fixed is just a cover up. Its been 18 days since EA, give them a break. I still say its one of the better releases in recent years server wise, which to me is more important than some fixable bugs.
  • Azzuria
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    I disagree. Those that leave after 30 days would do so anyways.

    I concur, Ragnar, though not totally. The free 30 days is, in essence, an extended Beta.

    Say what you will about bugs and other issues. Some folks just like shiny and new. Like moths to the flame they're drawn to the new and when it doesn't meet with their approval take the forums and complain or flame and rage-quit.

    There are several games to which I could return and be happy. But this one, warts and all, has my attention for at least 3 months. By that time, if the same issues still have not been resolved, it might be time to move along.

    Nothing new is perfect. Ever. Both ships I served on in the Navy had go through extensive 'shake-down' cruises after time in dry dock to work out all the kinks. An MMO is a wildly complex beast and to assume that it'll be flawless out of the gate is irrational. Give it time. In a couple months most of the haters will have moved on to something newer and shinier, leaving the devoted to rage and complain.



    Edited by Azzuria on April 18, 2014 6:15PM
    Brunhilda Icehammer - Nord Dragonknight, 'Smith & Enchantress 'What is 'ranged? I need to hit something!!'
    Laehl Direthorn - Bosmer Nightblade, Purveyor of fine Clothes, Bows and Staves
    Reeza gra-Zuni - Orc Templar 'War Shaman' and Apothecary
    Noemi Snowpaw - Kajiit Dragon Knight - I laugh... or I'd have to kill you.
    Kitera Dreamon - Breton of The Dominion: Because those Daggers don't appreciate a great Mage.
    Lysara Shadowcroft - Dunmer Bloodmage: This will only hurt a lot.
  • ZurinArctus
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    The bugs are frustrating, that's for sure.

    Twice now I've encountered a scenario where I was able to pick up a quest that was the the next quest after the one I had, and by completing it, makes the quest in my log impossible to complete.

    Example: To Dawnbreak (I approached Dawnbreak from the north and did the quest chain there, but never talked to the captain down south on the road. When I went to her, she updated me and told me to speak to the Canonreeve who unfortunately was already in a completed phased instance of Dawnbreak. I could not do anything with the quest, and when I abandoned it, the NPC who gave it to me wasn't even available.)

    Second time: Earlier I did the Greenshade quest line and had the quest to Return to Marbruk to speak with the Queen. I was already near Seaside Sanctuary so I proceeded north and picked up the quest at Hectahame. Needless to say, I would have been directed here supposedly had I spoke with the Queen in Marbruk first, so ultimately completing that chain leaves me with the Return to Marbruk quest in my log, unable to complete. I have not abandoned this for fear of forgetting it as you cannot view completed quests.

    I was stuck in Coldharbour for about a week due to Groundskeeper bug, but these two aforementioned issues really gets me as I have no clue how I'm going to get credit for it. At least the Groundskeeper bug prevented me from missing out the quest and rewards altogether, it was just a huge delay.

    Edit: During the time I was stuck in Meridian waiting for the Groundskeeper to get fixed, someone in zone got me the wayshrines north of the chasm and I was able to complete quests there. Oddly the NPCs near Reaver Citadel Wayshrine did not issue a quest, though I know it was a couple quests ahead of where I was (chasm, then vampires at Orchard, etc.). They still showed up at both Reaver Citadel and The Orchard for me to complete all of the quests however.
    Edited by ZurinArctus on April 17, 2014 6:15PM
  • Zordrage
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    My issue is still going so don't act like u know what your talking about. Over 8 days and they are still *** about. Meant to have a gm but yet another promise from technical support that was not followed up

    the game is out like a few weeks what 2-3 ? there was allready multiple fixes...

    and abbout your ticket what you think HOW many tickets and stuff they are getting ? they are freaken humans they can forget things especialy if they bombarded by milions of tickets and stuff like now......

    people that crying here should get some patiance...
  • Kilmor_Dyles
    I have played many mmo's from release and I think this has been the cleanest release I've seen. I also think the devs are rolling out patches and fixes in a pretty timely manor. I have encountered bugs and hitches but I just report them and move on then come back from time to time and most of the time the issue I've had has been fixed. This is my first time playing a Elder Scrolls game and I'm really liking it.
  • Acapella75
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    Azarul wrote: »
    Talk about lack of patience out of you guys. IMO there is no way the bugs are what will make you quit. You don't like the game in general, ok great I get that, its not for everyone. However I think blaming it on some bugs that will get fixed is just a cover up. Its been 18 days since EA, give them a break. I still say its one of the better releases in recent years server wise, which to me is more important than some fixable bugs.

    Patience? Come on man. They had years to test this stuff. A lot of these bugs were present in beta. Don't patronize people complaining about the bugs as the reason for leaving saying "they would have left anyways" or "they just like the new and shiny". That a total load of crap and a cop out. Maybe we just don't like to be stuck on MAIN QUEST LINES preventing our characters from advancing further without the said quest. Is that such a hard concept for you to fathom without being a ZOS fanboy or white knight?
  • Raice
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    Acapella75 wrote: »
    I disagree. Those that leave after 30 days would do so anyways.

    That's just myopic and untrue. If this game wasn't a bug ridden mess, I'd stick around much longer. You don't have to white knight the game by ignoring all these bugs or downplay them and people bothered by them.

    It's not "White Knight"ing when you're just giving a more reasonable account of the state of the game.

    People complaining about this game are so ridiculous and overly dramatic in every syllable of every word they say. I just can't stand how they go on and on and on and on and on about the same things over and over and over again. It's like they all formed a team of hatred, a union of despair, a league of gloom to completely over-exaggerate the issues this game has and how they have to experience the trauma 24/7. And how they'd rather go back to some other game that is just fabulous all the time and does everything better in every conceivable way about how ESO isn't worth a subscription because you work too hard all day long every single day at a crummy job to waste your hard heard blood and sweat filled dollars on this totally epic abyss of a game and more run-on sentences with more exaggeration....

    Honestly, in comparison... I see no White Knights here.
  • Arreyanne
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    As for the ppl that are leaving in 30 days would anyways, maybe Im an exception,

    Atm I am not sure I will cancel or will not. Why you ask?

    Well lets see I got the Bank bug after Tuesday patch, and then presto chango, my main looses all her skill points and CS still hasn't given me an answer as to how they intend to fix that.

    So do I reroll or wait another 2-6 weeks to get my skill points back
    Edited by Arreyanne on April 18, 2014 6:15PM
  • Rytfield
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    Arreyanne wrote: »
    So do I reroll or wait another 2-6 weeks to get my skill points back
    I'd phone them and see if you could have your ticket escalated.
  • Adalich
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    If I could donate my time for free to you, I would not.

    just an advancement of self interest for those who can afford to be.

    toxicity is like stickicity

    kill citys and let the planet be 3

    y bro no green, this is just rasisism

    *** redguards got EP
  • Sharcoux
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    Why i quit after after the 30 days ?
    Because of bugs ? Partly yes. I think that after months of beta at least the main quest should be spotless.
    But mainly i quit because of features that work the way they meant to work.
    Grouping sucks. I play with a friend and the amount of time i actually played with him is ridiculous. I'm either on a solo quest (yup solo quests in a mmo) or in a different "phase".
    5 guilds / guild store system is bad. There is no real sens of community in these guilds. Guild stores fail to replace the missing auction house. Zone chat flooded by auctions everyday proves it.
  • Elirienne
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    No one ever leaves a game because of bugs (bugs do get fixed), or bots, or slow grinding, or bad maintenance times. There is only one reason anyone ever quits any game, mmo or spg, and that is: they get bored. If a game is good, engaging and fun, no amount of bugs or maintenance will make people quit.
  • Moiskormoimi
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    Zoliru wrote: »
    this is a great post i only wish the game developers to read and actually respond with something meaningful. In stead of the usual mud crabs have gotten into your system or some other crap robot generated response. I hope all magazine reviewers encounter all of these bugs and slam the *** out of zenimax in their reviews for it. Maybe then we will see some action

    yersteday there was a patch that fixed allot of quest issue can you stop acting like they don't do *** ?
    Except that a lot of people are still experiencing issues with quests claimed to be fixed, and lot of the pathing and coding issues are not working as intended. This is live, not beta.
  • Moiskormoimi
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    Elirienne wrote: »
    No one ever leaves a game because of bugs (bugs do get fixed), or bots, or slow grinding, or bad maintenance times. There is only one reason anyone ever quits any game, mmo or spg, and that is: they get bored. If a game is good, engaging and fun, no amount of bugs or maintenance will make people quit.

    As I played WoW for 6 years, I disagree. That game is boring as hell and very dated compared to the newer mmos, but still enjoyable regardless. While I'll still try to help the masses by doing my Psijic Order duty, I really can't deal with the bugs that I have begun to deal with in the Vet areas. A lot of this stuff we spent months reporting, and it was ignored. A lot of these issues are amateur issues that shouldn't be occurring. I can handle bots and spammers. That happens for every mmo at launch. I can't handle trying to work around bugs that block progress.
  • Elirienne
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    As I played WoW for 6 years, I disagree. That game is boring as hell and very dated compared to the newer mmos, but still enjoyable regardless. While I'll still try to help the masses by doing my Psijic Order duty, I really can't deal with the bugs that I have begun to deal with in the Vet areas. A lot of this stuff we spent months reporting, and it was ignored. A lot of these issues are amateur issues that shouldn't be occurring. I can handle bots and spammers. That happens for every mmo at launch. I can't handle trying to work around bugs that block progress.

    If you "enjoy" then it cannot be boring, by definition. You mean wow is monotonous, not boring. Different things.
  • Arundo
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    Then the DEV team behind ESO is doing a great job as they have managed to hunt a lot of bugs and still are hunting them on a weekly base. To me thats carring and what they should do.

    With the new patch more fixes are coming, like these to fix the bot issues and to annoy the goldsellers:

    •You must now reach level 10 before creating a new guild.
    •If you decide to skip the tutorial, the items granted to you can no longer be deconstructed.

    So overall ZOS is doing good with all the patches coming out, for those who cant wait and quit feel free to send me your bankitems and gold so I can have a good time in this amazing game.
  • Covarnis
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    Chomag wrote: »
    Personally, I don't believe I will continue playing past the free month. The game is in a terrible state: <…>

    Hmmm… I do not believe so, though. If you are looking for another type of experience then - well, maybe yes. But game is in quite solid state to my opinion. Just to counter your points with another opinion:

    *poor engine optimization. Players having a poor performance even on very good machines. Granted, this seems to affect some players.
    It affects me, but I do not think its tragedy, it will get fixed over the course of coming months.

    *bugs everywhere
    not a major thing (as well as connecting with OP post) - I do not consider bugs a game-breaker, well, unless they are not fixed for years (you get this in some MMOs!!)

    -ninja looters in dungeons who loot chests and can't be kicked from group,
    well, I think its something you expect from pugs. If you play with friends, you take turns on chests. If you are in pug, you should probably expect - the one who finds chest first and manages to unlock it - gets it. No tragedy about that.

    -way too much traveling

    I think its perfect! More traveling!

    -way too slow levelling
    I think its perfect as well!

    -way too late access to weapon switching
    This is pretty timely too, just about when you get the hang of mechanics

    -bad idea to allow attributes influence how much damage the attacks that use those attributes. In fact the attributes should be baked in and removed from player control. They are unnecessary and tedious.
    A matter of debate!

    -pvp is terrible and whoever gets the 1st shot wins in 90% of cases, as players drop like flies.
    Oh, it's because they are low-level scaled players. To fare seriously in PvP you have to reach veteran ranks!

    -often enough very long loading screens just get exit a building.

    well, nothing special or too different from other MMOs, also depends on machine? minor problem

    -resources are being drained way too fast and replenish too slowly, this causes a tedious combat where doing fun things happens rarer than you might want.
    well, you have to plan and balance your build between magicka, stamina (and health), as well as your abilities. its actually the fun part for me!

    *severe lack of fluff
    well, it will come I guess, also a minor issue. In general, I like realistic style of everything

    -no chat boxes,
    minor issue, matter of preference, less spam on screen, you always look to chat window anyway

    -no easy access to respecs,
    well, you pay and respec, in the higher levels gold becomes easily earn able in the end

    -no auction house
    matter of debate. I actually like it as it is. Also, resources are not hard to acquire by yourself/from friends. It also has a nice connection to PvP (accessibility of guild stores in conquered keeps), we will see more of this when the game matures

    etc. I agree that you may not like the features of the game, but I wouldn't state that it is objectively in a horrible state.

    Concerning bugs - well. All MMO launches had them, wouldn't say the amount of bugs is too much greater. And speaking of bugs - TES game Dagerfall is probably unsurpassed (and it is still a legend today) ;)
  • tryia3b14a_ESO
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    I agree with the OP. I have a pretty good machine and this game has a lot of performance issues for me.

    I've been playing MMOs since Everquest in 1999. Yes, all games have bugs. But this game has had more progression stopping bugs, bugged combat, bugs that 100% totally screw you (like losing all your bank upgrades and your helmet, not to mention all the stuff that was in your bank) than any game I've ever played.

    The early access was down half the time because of the horrifying bugs like the fact that sometimes when you logged in to the game... you logged into someone else's account. It happened to me, and I was booted from the game once with the terrifying message, "Someone else has logged in to this account". This is not ok. How does something like this even happen? No, don't try to excuse it or justify it, this is a HUGE security risk, and it is 100% not ok. My credit card is tied to that account. Thank god there aren't any in app purchases yet.

    As a huge Elder Scrolls fan and an avid MMO player, I was planning to subscribe to this game for a long time, but after playing a couple weeks, I already unsubbed.

    I'm tired of dying in combat because my character becomes unresponsive and unable to attack or do anything. I'm tired of enemies killing me while facing the other direction, being 3 feet away and yet still hitting me, or dodge and weapon switching taking 2+ seconds to fire. I'm tired of missing out on exp because of bugged quests. I'm tired of the terrible phasing, not getting credit for killing a boss in a group, chest ninja looters, and 0 dungeon exp. I'm tired of the fact that my whole game freezes up for 2+ seconds every time someone joins or leaves the group that I'm in while in Cyrodiil. I'm tired of the infinite load screens and the memory leaks causing me to eventually crash.

    Also, the guild store is unusable in its current state. There are some player mods that fix the broken sorting, but the fact that I have to download a 3rd party program to make it not suck, but not be good either, is a problem.

    And before you say, "well I'm not having all these technical issues, maybe your machine is a PoS", here's the requirements for this game:

    [ The minimum system requirements for the game on PC are: ]

    — Operating System: Windows XP 32-bit
    — Processor: Dual Core 2.0GHz or equivalent processor
    — Memory: 2GB System RAM
    — Hard Disk Space: 60GB free HDD space
    — Video Card: DirectX 9.0 compliant video card with 512MB of RAM (NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 / ATI Radeon™ 2600 or better)


    I have Windows 7 64-bit, Intel i7 3.4Ghz Processor, 6 GB RAM, 500+ GB free HDD space, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 ti. I should be able to run this game on max/ultra with no problems, plus I can run other recent games on ultra without a problem. I'm used to games running very smooth for me. This game runs very poorly.
    Edited by tryia3b14a_ESO on April 30, 2014 7:50PM
  • nicholaspingasb16_ESO
    nicholaspingasb16_ESO
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    I agree with the OP. I have a pretty good machine and this game has a lot of performance issues for me.

    I've been playing MMOs since Everquest in 1999. Yes, all games have bugs. But this game has had more progression stopping bugs, bugged combat, bugs that 100% totally screw you (like losing all your bank upgrades and your helmet, not to mention all the stuff that was in your bank) than any game I've ever played.

    The early access was down half the time because of the horrifying bugs like the fact that sometimes when you logged in to the game... you logged into someone else's account. It happened to me, and I was booted from the game once with the terrifying message, "Someone else has logged in to this account". This is not ok. How does something like this even happen? No, don't try to excuse it or justify it, this is a HUGE security risk, and it is 100% not ok. My credit card is tied to that account. Thank god there aren't any in app purchases yet.

    As a huge Elder Scrolls fan and an avid MMO player, I was planning to subscribe to this game for a long time, but after playing a couple weeks, I already unsubbed.

    I'm tired of dying in combat because my character becomes unresponsive and unable to attack or do anything. I'm tired of enemies killing me while facing the other direction, being 3 feet away and yet still hitting me, or dodge and weapon switching taking 2+ seconds to fire. I'm tired of missing out on exp because of bugged quests. I'm tired of the terrible phasing, not getting credit for killing a boss in a group, chest ninja looters, and 0 dungeon exp. I'm tired of the fact that my whole game freezes up for 2+ seconds every time someone joins or leaves the group that I'm in while in Cyrodiil. I'm tired of the infinite load screens and the memory leaks causing me to eventually crash.

    Also, the guild store is unusable in its current state. There are some player mods that fix the broken sorting, but the fact that I have to download a 3rd party program to make it not suck, but not be good either, is a problem.

    And before you say, "well I'm not having all these technical issues, maybe your machine is a PoS", here's the requirements for this game:

    [ The minimum system requirements for the game on PC are: ]

    — Operating System: Windows XP 32-bit
    — Processor: Dual Core 2.0GHz or equivalent processor
    — Memory: 2GB System RAM
    — Hard Disk Space: 60GB free HDD space
    — Video Card: DirectX 9.0 compliant video card with 512MB of RAM (NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 / ATI Radeon™ 2600 or better)


    I have Windows 7 64-bit, Intel i7 3.4Ghz Processor, 6 GB RAM, 500+ GB free HDD space, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 ti. I should be able to run this game on max/ultra with no problems, plus I can run other recent games on ultra without a problem. I'm used to games running very smooth for me. This game runs very poorly.

    Yeah. My computer is crap (my video card is a 7570) and it can run dark souls 2 on medium settings with AA at 60 frames per second most of the time. However, with ESO, I can barely squeeze out medium settings with no shadows or AA at all.

    Some people might reply to this and say that it is because DS2 looks like crap, but that game on medium looks a hell of a lot better than the settings I can run ESO on. So basically, ESO is either optimized dreadfully or my computer has been cursed with the inability to run this game well.

    Edited by nicholaspingasb16_ESO on April 30, 2014 8:31PM
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