Magelight and Stealth

DYSEQTA

Just been reading through a discussion on Tamriel Foundry about Magelight and stealth. This has raised a problem in my mind.

First let me say that I play a Sorcerer and have Magelight slotted on both my weapon sets.

However, with that said, I want to suggest that Magelight be altered with regard to stealth. You should not be able to enter stealth with Magelight active,or entering stealth should automatically end Magelight, one or the other.

Why? Because it makes no sense when considering the current way it is portrayed, as a ball of visible spectrum light.

How exactly does one "stealth" a ball of light? There is only one way. You stop emitting the light...

I would have thought it fairly obvious from a design perspective that a spell that casts light was never and should never have been intended for use in a stealth based build.

ThatHappyCat

Gameplay > Realism. I don't think bending your knees on an open field making you invisible to passerbys as though they have severe myopia and tunnel vision is particularly realistic either.

Khastle

As a sorcerer that also uses magelight, I believe the ball of light is only visible to you.. to everyone else you have glowing hands and eyes. At least that is what I have been told by others.

ThatHappyCat

Khastle wrote: »

As a sorcerer that also uses magelight, I believe the ball of light is only visible to you.. to everyone else you have glowing hands and eyes. At least that is what I have been told by others.

The ball of light is visible to everyone.

neiljwd

Think of it as a blinding and slightly distracting light.
Some annoying friend ever shone a torch repeatedly in your face? Difficult to see in it?
That's ya extra stealth.

ZoM_Head

I never touched PVP.

But i can fully understand this, but how is this fair when your character can be hidden with a ball of light spining around you and exposing stealthed enemies?

Makes no sense to me.

PVE it does not matter really, i guess it should, technically but then everyone in PVP should run magelight.

TheMazrem

Bright light can actually be used as a form of stealth in real life. Seriously.

Get a bright enough light, shine it in someone's eyes, and you can completely obscure their vision and make them blind to your own movements. Do they know you're there? Of course they do. Do they know exactly where you are? Not by relying on their eyesight.

And as for its uses in pvp, I'd like to point out that its available to everyone, not just one class.

Gaudrath

I don't see the problem - if you stealth with magelight active, you haven't stealthed at all. People can see your magelight, they know exactly where you are and a single ranged AoE will knock you out of stealth.

In PvE, what does it matter. NPCs are brain dead anyway.

Spriggen

I used mage light in PvP and I stealth. I've let an entire zerg force go right past me and no one notices my mage light so it stays stealth with you.

Gaudrath

Spriggen wrote: »

I used mage light in PvP and I stealth. I've let an entire zerg force go right past me and no one notices my mage light so it stays stealth with you.

Ah then it's obviously unbalanced. Must be a bug, can't believe they'd greenlight something like this - it practically makes magelight a mandatory slot skill, which is bad.

stylernaku

At first Mage light is visible, if you morph it to inner light (glowing eyes and hands) the floating light is visible only to the player.

jodyren

If you want mage light to be visible when hidden, then you have to have everything else that produces effects do the same. No one could stealth and use abilities or special weapons then.

I think stealthers are a little biased because they don't like anything they can work against them. Of course I'm biased because I stealth around and jump other stealthers. The 20% crit works great for that.

On a side note, both mage light and radiant light are visible to others. didn't know what inner light looked like til this thread, but I have seen the others on other players.

Obscure

Why bother? I can drink a level 3 potion and see everything stealthed in 20m.

Corn Flower + Wormwood > Mage Light

What really bakes my noodle is do the radii stack?

ArRashid

I think we can all agree that Magelight and it's morphs should have:
- glowing eyes (instead of whole face)
- stick that damned lightbulb in your arse goddamnit, it just blocks my screen since I don't play zoomed out to maximum
- also would be nice if the glow effect had different colors per class - sorc=blue, NB=dark red, DK=fiery red, templar=yellow. Having arms glow blue as pyromancer makes my fashion sense tingle..