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The Eight problems that I have with PvP and everything else in TESO
Treffer
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This is hardly a huge issue with the game - it is not by any means a bug or a game breaking feature, but an issue that is beginning to have a growing impact on me. One of the defining features of TES games is the deeply interesting lore that it is submerged in, and the way this background integrates with the immersive nature of the gameplay. This is somewhat handicapped for me in TESO - by having the game set only 300 years before the birth of Hjalti Early-Beard.
Obviously 300 hundred years is a long time right? I mean all of the single players TES titles are set roughly within a millenia of each other. However it is still very undermining of my experience - especially when I am playing with the Dominion - that within a single Altmer generation, Talos is going to storm into Cyrodil and wipe all of Tamriel with the asses of the First Aldmeri dominion. I struggle to look at Ayrenn with any level of insipiration when all I can see is her ass getting handed to her by the Ninth divine for whom I won a civil war for in TESV Skyrim.
A simple solution for this would be obviously to just quit, give up - and start playing for the Ebonheart Pact or something - but what's the point? I can't help but feel that as fun as PvP can be, why are we bothering? Talos is just going to bloody whoop us all - (I'm looking at you too Daggerfall scum - Sancre Tor is literally just around the historical corner) .
Obviously many players may be blithely unaware of the imminent future and may continue enjoying this PvP experience - but to me, this does matter. I have trying to make excuses, or coping strategies of how perhaps Ayrenn might ally with Talos in overthrowing perhaps what will be a prevailing Aldmeri regime of racism and elvish supremacism - but does this mean that the Veiled inheritance is going to win? Is Teso then non-cannonical? Is Talos a scum-bag (hey I played through with the Imperials in Skyrim too) that ends up conquering a righteous Aldmeri dominion - what's the point of this all?
Eitherway, I'll probably carry on with the game regardless - but I need some for of support right now for me poor Khajit in the Dominion - otherwise this cancerous thought might get the better of me and I may soon be fighting under the Red Flag.
Talos guide you all - A third to victory, and the rest to a bloody humiliating tale of conquest heralded by proportions of divine ascension.
Edited by Treffer on April 12, 2014 3:18PM Obviously 300 hundred years is a long time right? I mean all of the single players TES titles are set roughly within a millenia of each other. However it is still very undermining of my experience - especially when I am playing with the Dominion - that within a single Altmer generation, Talos is going to storm into Cyrodil and wipe all of Tamriel with the asses of the First Aldmeri dominion. I struggle to look at Ayrenn with any level of insipiration when all I can see is her ass getting handed to her by the Ninth divine for whom I won a civil war for in TESV Skyrim.
A simple solution for this would be obviously to just quit, give up - and start playing for the Ebonheart Pact or something - but what's the point? I can't help but feel that as fun as PvP can be, why are we bothering? Talos is just going to bloody whoop us all - (I'm looking at you too Daggerfall scum - Sancre Tor is literally just around the historical corner) .
Obviously many players may be blithely unaware of the imminent future and may continue enjoying this PvP experience - but to me, this does matter. I have trying to make excuses, or coping strategies of how perhaps Ayrenn might ally with Talos in overthrowing perhaps what will be a prevailing Aldmeri regime of racism and elvish supremacism - but does this mean that the Veiled inheritance is going to win? Is Teso then non-cannonical? Is Talos a scum-bag (hey I played through with the Imperials in Skyrim too) that ends up conquering a righteous Aldmeri dominion - what's the point of this all?
Eitherway, I'll probably carry on with the game regardless - but I need some for of support right now for me poor Khajit in the Dominion - otherwise this cancerous thought might get the better of me and I may soon be fighting under the Red Flag.
Talos guide you all - A third to victory, and the rest to a bloody humiliating tale of conquest heralded by proportions of divine ascension.
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Trouvo✭✭✭> I struggle to look at Ayrenn with any level of insipiration when all I can see is her ass getting handed to her by the Ninth divine for whom I won a civil war for in TESV Skyrim.<
LOL....Talos was long dead in TESV Skyrim, and Skyrim took place over 1000 years after ESO.
What is the point of playing any lord of the rings game if you already know the outcome? Or the point of playing any single player game? Its to enjoy itBloodline|RP Guild|Ebonheart Pact0 -
Treffer✭I was referring to how I won a war for his right to be worshiped, not himself personally - although I envision that he approvingly watched from Aetherius.
Secondly - in all those "other games" I am the actor causing the change, I am in control of the future, and even if I know exactly what will happen - it will be due to my actions.
What in oblivion can my poor little dominion kitten do to stop the greatest human being of all time?
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Trouvo✭✭✭So what you are saying is you dont want to finish the book because someone spoiled the ending...
Even in those "other games" it was still merely perceived change, like choosing a page to turn to in a "Choose your own Adventure" book... see "The Stanley Parable" for humor on the perception of change in games, game is hilarious...Edited by Trouvo on April 12, 2014 3:52PMBloodline|RP Guild|Ebonheart Pact0 -
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So I will take that as a yes, oh and apparently i had bad timing, just edited my previous response as you responded...
oh and the "Ladder" is not about reaching the top its the climb that matters...
“Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. But they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.” - Littlefinger
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Treffer✭Haha, I aprreciate this extrapolation of the Game of Thrones references. That's a top quote indeed - but unfortunately I still do know what exactly is going to happen in 300 years - it's not pleasant and it spells a crushing defeat of my faction - and the worst part is, I kind of want this to happen too.
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Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭Unless, of course, we cause a dragon break. And now enjoy your PvP."You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"0 -
UnknownXV✭✭✭I usually dislike games focused on lore and story, that set their world in the past. You already know what will happen, so your actions are completely and totally pointless. Nothing you do matters. The future is already written. Kind of boring. 0 -
Perhaps what happens in the single player TES games is only one version of the future based on one particular outcome of the war in Cyrodil. With all the different campaigns going on they will all have different results so it's not that tenuous (ok it is a bit tenuous) to suggest that the futures would be different for all the different campaigns.
Also, and this maybe a bit RPish, but you may know the outcome but you aren't taking part in the war, it's your character that is and your character can have no idea what's going to happen in the future.
Having said that, if you can't enjoy the moment because of the future then I don't really think there's a solution.Edited by Cat_70ESO on April 12, 2014 5:12PM0 -
eNumbra✭✭✭✭✭Life's about the journey, not the destination.
Besides, to an extent the game is just as much about saving tamriel from molag bal for Talos to rule later.Edited by eNumbra on April 13, 2014 2:59AM0