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Experience gain is too low from questing?

Lenny
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Hello,
This is not a complaining post - get that out of the way. I am going for "Tamriel Hero" so I have been fully completing every zone (except a few Dolmen) but when I got to the Rift, I was only level 37. How can I be completing so much content and yet be under-leveled? In every other game I've played when you try to be all completionist about your game, then you are usually over-leveled.

Is there something I'm missing?
  • Vikova
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    No. If people don't do all of the quests in zones they often end up underleveled, as can be demonstrated by the myriad posts of people wondering why they are underleveled. The speed of progression is intentional, which is also why the people who rushed to 50 did it through AoE farming.
  • jdkorreckpreub18_ESO
    If you aren't also getting all the explorer points, public dungeons, anchors, "world boss mobs", etc you are going to be underleveled.
  • Gelston
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    Yeah I am always down by about 6 levels when I get to the next zone. I completed all but like 7 quests in previous zones. This isn't a complaint though. Sorcerers are super easy and it gives me a little bit more of a challenge.
  • RangerChad
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    I am always up 1-3 lvls compared to the zone. Exp rations per quest are perfectly added to exploration and boss killing. Well done system.
  • SexyVette07
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    You need to do the starter zones instead of skipping them. Khenarthis Roost boosted me to level 8 before ever touching Auridon. After having done every quest in Auridon, I was level 18 or 19. Finishing Grahtwood I was 28.

    If you do ALL the quests, youll never be behind. Im always several levels ahead.
  • LilBudyWizerub17_ESO
    One thing I found is other players make a difference. You can run through many quests hardly killing anything. I play with my wife so don't quest without her. When she's not on I farm mobs. Actually killing mobs does add up.
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  • Lenny
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    This doesn't help at all, I am doing everything listed here, completing dungeons, finding everything exploring all the nodes on each map and still I am ending up underleveled.
  • Lenny
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    You need to do the starter zones instead of skipping them. Khenarthis Roost boosted me to level 8 before ever touching Auridon. After having done every quest in Auridon, I was level 18 or 19. Finishing Grahtwood I was 28.

    If you do ALL the quests, youll never be behind. Im always several levels ahead.

    I have done EVERYTHING up until my level, I am level 30 with 1035 achievement points from exploration, questing, skyshards etc. etc. etc.
  • Rev Rielle
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    I'd suggest talking your time more in general then? Maybe more time just exploring and enjoying the game and not worrying about your experience bar? Maybe you need to take more time and kill every enemy you come across whilst your character's travelling about? Perhaps don't use any Wayshrines, and wander about on foot. I don't know.
    From personal experience I'd say we're still leveling too fast. But that's just me, my character keeps out-leveling content in Glenumbra: almost level 18 and I've still a lot of Glenumbra left to explore to my liking. There just seems so much to do, which is a good thing of course :smile:
    If you can be anything, be kind.
  • Eris
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    One thing I found is other players make a difference. You can run through many quests hardly killing anything. I play with my wife so don't quest without her. When she's not on I farm mobs. Actually killing mobs does add up.

    It's true. I spend a lot of time wandering around and picking up crafting nodes. As a result I also spend a lot of time in combat getting to nodes or because some creatures are also nodes of a sort. I've found the extra time that I spend in combat really does add up over time.

    I've also found, in my explorations, that there are a lot of quests that are really out there in the landscape. I doubt I would have found them if I hadn't been exploring.
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  • Azarul
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    One thing I found is other players make a difference. You can run through many quests hardly killing anything. I play with my wife so don't quest without her. When she's not on I farm mobs. Actually killing mobs does add up.

    This. I see so many people run through all the mobs to get to the objectives instead of killing your way there. Your losing alot of exp overall if this is you. Not to mention drops.
  • BlackSparrow
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    Do you have a craft? That gives experience.

    Have you been exploring out-of-the-way locations, like lighthouses and off-shore islands? That gives experience.

    Have you been reading every bookshelf you come across? That gives experience.

    So far, I've been keeping pace, and that's skipping the Mages Guild questline (my Nightblade looks down on anyone who spends more time thinking than doing). As far as I can tell, there's not some trick to keeping level. Maybe it's in the approach?
    Edited by BlackSparrow on April 10, 2014 2:28PM
    Living vicariously through my characters.

    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • Shimond
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    Crafting does not give character level xp. Only crafting skill xp.
  • BlackSparrow
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    Shimond wrote: »
    Crafting does not give character level xp. Only crafting skill xp.

    I'll take your word for it. Only goes to show that I haven't been paying attention to (and indeed don't care about) experience gains at all, and am still at level.

    Living vicariously through my characters.

    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • Thete
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    It does seem a shame that there isn't an abundance of content for the levelling. After I missed out (unintentionally) a small section of Stonefalls, I now find myself always on quests several levels high (which would be fine but for having to wait a good long while to use the quest rewards).

    I now make sure to scour the map for every last quest before moving on, which is a little unfortunate.
  • Custos91
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    I skipp most of the sidequests because the game is to easy if I am at the same lvl, and I have no problem with XP, add to the list: do the dungeons at least 1 time and look at Cyrodill, just like in oblivion there are quests too, and they lvl with you!
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    I want to feel like I am saving somebodies life, not like I am carrying amunition for them...
  • Shimond
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    I'll take your word for it. Only goes to show that I haven't been paying attention to (and indeed don't care about) experience gains at all, and am still at level.

    That's the right way to play, IMO :)
  • keto3000
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    So the general advice here is to complete Khenarthi, then backtrack and complete Auridon before moving forward? I'm still very noob at MMO, so I appreciate any good advice :)
    “The point of power is always in the present moment.”

    ― Louise L. Hay
  • MysticAura
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    Missing 7 quests is a lot to miss. You really do need to complete the areas before moving on. Both for experience, and not missing out on story. If you see a chest, pick it. If you've not explored an area, explore it. Get all your sky shards. Every zone I go into I'm above or at level, and I never have to grind to get there.
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