Nightblade class skills and Magelight

Chyrsamere

Anyone know what Nightblade skills are affected by Magelight? I've been reading that "melee" class skills such as Assassin's blade are not affected by it. But what about skills like Lotus Fan or Path of Darkness?

Tamanous

Some NB skills are melee even though they use magicka. Melee crit would affect them not spell crit.

Teloran

The spells that give you lightsaber hands (veiled strike, assassin's blade, teleport strike and the assassination ult) use physical crit and are mitigated by armour.

Rytfield

but yet the do magic damage... so are they affected by magicka or stamina? (to increase damage).

Rhano

All skills that cost magicka are affected by magicka. Spell/Weapon damage/crit are a different story.

Teloran

All skills scale with the resource that they use.

Anoteros

jesus how hard is it to get a straight forward answer to this?
Does the crit from magelight affect the NB abilities which use magicka, yes or no?!

Erock25

Jesus how hard is it for you to read telorans comment and realize some nb skills use physical crit and some use spell.

Anoteros

Erock25 wrote: »

Jesus how hard is it for you to read telorans comment and realize some nb skills use physical crit and some use spell.

I'm not Jesus.

jambam817_ESO

This is an interesting question. I have a 17 NB, Light Armor, Destro Staff, Siphoning and soon Shadow. Playing a warlock-ish (think EQ2) AOE & health stealing caster.
Trying to get the skill in Mage's Guild called Entropy, and for the time being I'm using Morphed Mage Light for 17% Crit. Will this effect the Damage of the Strife ability, or any other DoT skills in the Siphon tree?

Teloran

Let me clarify. All melee nightblade spells will use melee (AKA physical) crit and hence will NOT benefit from Magelight. The rest will.

dw0011nrb19_ESO

Teloran wrote: »

Let me clarify. All melee nightblade spells will use melee (AKA physical) crit and hence will NOT benefit from Magelight. The rest will.

Of course Magelight applies to all Nightblade skills. Such as it applies to all other classes skills. Magelight does not apply to weapon skills. All Class skills are considered to be spells.

Simply equip jewelry with the trait 'reduce spell cost' and see how your "melee" assassination skills get a cost reduction. So those skills are in this game considered to be "melee spells" and yes, Magelight Does apply to them.

Windforcex

dw0011nrb19_ESO wrote: »

Teloran wrote: »

Let me clarify. All melee nightblade spells will use melee (AKA physical) crit and hence will NOT benefit from Magelight. The rest will.

Of course Magelight applies to all Nightblade skills. Such as it applies to all other classes skills. Magelight does not apply to weapon skills. All Class skills are considered to be spells.

Simply equip jewelry with the trait 'reduce spell cost' and see how your "melee" assassination skills get a cost reduction. So those skills are in this game considered to be "melee spells" and yes, Magelight Does apply to them.

This is wrong. If u dont believe me, go test it. use teleporting strike and test it yourself.

GreasedLizard

Pretty much. Siphon Line + Mage Guild will benefit from Mage Light, not much else. (would hope Destro/Resto staff too)

Its made me rethink my 2 Light /5 Medium build, as 95% of my DPS comes from NB Melee skills + Wep Skills. Although I was leveling staves/Mage guild skills for quite some time and it made sense

feniks31_ESO

dw0011nrb19_ESO wrote: »

Teloran wrote: »

Of course Magelight applies to all Nightblade skills. Such as it applies to all other classes skills. Magelight does not apply to weapon skills. All Class skills are considered to be spells.

this one is so wrong. Veiled strike for example will not use spell crit while only use weapon crit. It also scales from maxmagic and spelldmg. But uses WEAPON CRIT, so wear medium armor if you use it.

Eam

Easy to remember:
every class skill that is ranged = Spell Crit
every class skill that is melee = Weapon Crit

Magelight affects only the ranged class abilties such as Cripple, strife or Sap essence.

ArRashid

I think the only spell outside Siphoning line that could potentially benefit from Magelight is Path of Darkness. Everything else uses weapon crit..

That's why Magelight SUCKS for NB.. unless you go some shadow mage build with destro staff and such.

kelebra

Most of the siphoning abilities are affected. Cripple agony Idk about the ultimate I'm sure dks and Templars deal with this also

Edit you said outside siphoning, Idk

Chyrsamere

I've gotten my Nightblade to 28. Been using Lotus Fan, Path of Darkness and Wall of Elements as my aoe cycle. Use a sneak Lotus Fan as a starting attack, have Mage Light running at the same time. Haven't run into any problems so far. When In doubt pop shadowy disguise and run away or start with Lotus Fan again.