Zeni, fix the Dungeons. Seriously.

Arato · April 2014

MinotaurXXX wrote: »

STOP CRYING! Its been out what? Two weeks? I mean really, anyone on here trolling has never played an mmo at release. They will evolve and fix most issues. Give it some bleeping time!

I've played a lot of MMO's at release and from what I can remember, the dungeons at least worked.

Also it seems just too "normal" for MMO developers to SELL and CHARGE SUBSCRIPTION FOR unpolished products.

ANY other business tried to pull that off they'd find themselves audited by better businesses bureau. GM's in deep crap right now for having sold faulty products, court hearings and everything.

Shaun98ca2 · April 2014

Well theres bugs and there is known issues and supposedly this was a known issue back in beta so take that for what its worth.

Ahnuk · April 2014

MinotaurXXX wrote: »

STOP CRYING! Its been out what? Two weeks? I mean really, anyone on here trolling has never played an mmo at release. They will evolve and fix most issues. Give it some bleeping time!

I'm sure that people's concerns about the game's success have nothing to do with CRYING or anything like that. These opinions are just constructive criticism.

As a fan of both the franchise and the MMO community, i really want this game to succeed in all its aspects and not just from a single player perspective.

Aye, the game is brand new, though, Zenimax had a long beta period in which i gratefully participated, to listen to the player's community and to polish their product, and i must say, they have done a terrific job but unfortunatelly, as we can see with these faulty mechanics, not giving much thoughts on the group play aspect of the game.

This just makes me feel a bit sad. After so many reports and surveys during beta they come up with an half broken multiplayer game. I guess that all the ranting about the game not being a direct successor of the single player franchise had some impact on this game's design after all.

Asava · April 2014

It's not crying to expect what you pay for to work. Maybe someone has been letting mommy and daddy pay for their stuff for too long. Some of us would like to get what we paid for.

grey.jellybeanb16_ESO · April 2014

Nvm the chest. I'll be happy if they just fix the quest in the dungeon so I can finish it.

Today I ran Elden Hollow twice, with separate groups and both times the first part of the quest ended up stucked and not advancing to the next stage even tho we killed everything in the path.

Yesterday, I managed to get to the last boss with the quest but it didnt update after killing the last boss. Seems everyday there's something buggy about the dungeon. It's quite disheartening as I'm quite enjoying the game thus far.

Aenra · April 2014

If they add your WoW referenced loot system;
remake the crafting so that it is worse than said loot (so you can be content having a carrot dangling in front of you while everyone else that came -for- the crafting gets miserable);
if they add special infomercials for twelve year olds so that LOOT DROPS HERE may be properly and sufficiently communicated;

Would you need anyhting more? Do feel free to continue contributing, it is a marvellous thread you have opened thus far.

I would personally wish to propose abolishment of Cyrodiil if i may. We could have Glenumbra Basin and Stonefalls Gulch instead, if possible on 2 by 2 meters long area. With loots. THEY DROP HERE. How's that? If i think its cool, why it must be. Right?

MittWaffen · April 2014

MinotaurXXX wrote: »

STOP CRYING! Its been out what? Two weeks? I mean really, anyone on here trolling has never played an mmo at release. They will evolve and fix most issues. Give it some bleeping time!

Difference between crying, shitting your paints so to speak; and spitting truth. Dont like it? Pull down yer pants, handful of Vaseline and go stick your head in the sand. I'd rather have the stones to voice problems and say when something is *** rather than eat it and ask for seconds.

Side note, whats up with the XXX in your name, some kind of MMO playa playa?

Booshy · April 2014

Can confirm BC and Spindleclutch still bugged. Spindleclutch can't clear first area - and BC today broke for us in the last area. We were able to rescue the first npc (where it usually bugs) but after rescuing the 3rd the quest broke and couldn't complete the dungeon or get last boss summoned.

It's frustrating that 2 of the first 3 dungeons players experience have a lot of issues. I understand mmo launches - but this puts out a bad image of the quality of the game. Late game dungeons being bugged are one thing as it gives the devs time to work on it post-release while MOST of the game population is still leveling up, resulting in most not even seeing the bugs as they are fixed by the time they get to the content. But these are the entry level dungeons here.

Laranja · April 2014

Cogo wrote: »

Funny, I had no problems with dungeons, loot in them or groupmembers.

However, maybe its because I make sure who is in the group? I have met a few players while playing, keeping them on friend list. Then when its time for a dungeon, I'll grab people from my guild. If we still need a spot, Ill check my friest list.

So far I LOVED dungeons. Loot is very well done. And well done I mean you dont get EVERYTHING all the time. Love it! Good drops actually means....GOOD DROPS!

If you have problems with someone in your group "taking" chests and not doing their job...then you know who not to group with again?

Stop trying to make EsO into world of warcraft.

Many people I speak to regarding EsO have a simular comment about it. Not just the game itself but the community that's starting to form.

It is very simular to the community in EverQuest, where your actions as a player didnt always go unnoticed. Players who ninja pulls, trains, are rude or in this case, "steals" chests in dungeon groups.......they may find themselves a hard time getting into GOOD guilds (not just big guilds).

Also, there is upcoming 4 and 12 man content at higher levels.

I think the biggest difference in WoW and EsO here is going to be.....if you act like a ***, or dont act at all (just stand there and get free stuff), you will quite quickly make a bad rep for you and will be forced to group with others who dont care who you are or maybe are in the same seat.

I LOVE this feature. It's player only based and quite RP/Elderscrolls like.
You are what you do. Both good and bad!

Stop complaining about bad groups as it was the games fault!

Would bet good money that this^^ is the type of person who did the trolling in the dungeon in that video. Zenimax, you have a very small window of opportunity to fix these things because no matter how good your PvP is, your PvE community is what will make or break this game. I hope you listen because I love this game but there's no point in logging on just to feel constantly frustrated. On the other hand, if all you were looking for was a small community of PvP oriented folks then Kudos, good luck and goodbye!

Moonclaw · April 2014

Sad thing here is that ESO design is very cool - but assumes that most players are decent. I have seen exactly this behavior. This is not crying - it is highlighting aspects of game design which need to be adjusted to encourage people to collaborate because sadly we have folks who just care about themselves. I am confident that this will be fixed - but it is important to identify issues like this to the devs .

Axer · April 2014

Guys the chest REALLY aren't a big deal. Anyone who runs dragon loot to see what other players are getting knows that.

Chests essentially = 1 mob kill. Thats it. They seem to have the exact same loot as regular trash mobs, with the other exception being a minimum of 1 green item. The chances of a blue or purple are insanely low - same as 1 regular trash mob (of which youll kill dozens in dungeons and everyone gets the loot). I did every regular dungeon in teh game twice now, and allways watched the loot - NO ONE pulled a purple from a chest, and blues were like 5%.

Were as the bosses drop loot for everyone, and a the higher lvl dungeons they have a HUGE chance at purples (10-20%).

So yea the loot systems fine imo (tho rather bland - named items are identical to random items with different names). The chests are just minor distractions, not important. The real loots on the boss.

The real issues with dungeons are the quests being broke in the tier 5 dungeons (the auto share function auto-breaks them instead when the 4th member steps in - you can work around this by picking them up solo before you all go in).

Plus imo they are way too easy. They need difficulty settings.

Meneleas · April 2014

They are a big deal because selfish people focus on gathering as many chests as possible (whatever the reward) instead of supporting the rest of the group.

Shaun98ca2 · April 2014

Meneleas wrote: »

They are a big deal because selfish people focus on gathering as many chests as possible (whatever the reward) instead of supporting the rest of the group.

This is why the chests are sorta a big deal. Not because of the loot they are stealing. But cause of how they are treating the party. Skipping fights in a group dungeon is pure wrong.

Cogo · April 2014

MinotaurXXX wrote: »

STOP CRYING! Its been out what? Two weeks? I mean really, anyone on here trolling has never played an mmo at release. They will evolve and fix most issues. Give it some bleeping time!

Zenimax! Please put this quote above ON YOUR MAIN FORUM PAGE!

I love reading forums, but getting sick of all the whining muppets.

Bell · April 2014

Cogo wrote: »

Stop trying to make EsO into world of warcraft.

Stop complaining about bad groups as it was the games fault!

I think very few people would actually like this game to become warcraft and I think that ESO is different from WoW in many aspects. But Warcraft has developed a few quite well thought out standards in the MMO world. Especially when it comes to grouping and tools to do so, they did a lot right.

Wanting things, which over the recent years have become standard in any AAA MMO, does not mean you want to turn a game more into WoW but you want to turn it more into an MMORPG. Because as it is now, ESO is a game with a lot of great potential, but also lacking a lot in the department of things people expect to be in an AAA MMO from day one (e.g. guild stores with a search functions for instance; Tools for players to get rid of trolls like the ones that always go for the chests in every dungeon;)

Now, some may say that ESO choose to be different and that this is actually a good thing. This is true for a lot of things, but not for such convenience standards. I mean without a search function the guild stores are utterly useless, aren't they? Scrolling through dozens of pages of items is just not a feasible option in a 2014 MMO.

Neither is having no proper tool to kick people from group AND dungeon if their colleagues feel that they are impairing their playing experience by just randomly strolling off mid-fight to loot a chest and not sharing any loot they find with others.

I agree that it is not the game's fault that you get a bad group with some a*hole in it, but it is the game's fault if it does not give you a tool to remove said idiot from the group AND dungeon! Bad groups will happen now and then. You can't really do anything about it that many players of MMOs are immature and anti-social persons, but because of this fact I absolutely need a tool to eliminate these players from my gaming experience.