Guild store commission

Jambo

It says the guild store gets 10% of the sale price. how does the guild leader get it?

otomodachi

Ahhhh hahahahahah, good one.

SirAndy

It's a gold sink, the gold is lost in space ...
;-)

otomodachi

Whaddya think this is, EVE Online?

Jambo

otomodachi

Jambo

If it goes nowhere, why is there 2 differant types of commission? makes no sense.

25% seems a tad high for it to go nowhere

rnehrlichub17_ESO

The guild store fees are insane. The listing fee should be returned when a sale is made and be in place as a security deposit system to prevent early removal of listings. As it is right now, market value of many crafting goods minus the 25% hit are less than what I can vendor them for on the guild store, which a very sad state of affairs.

Valethar

They fleece you for using the mail too. In addition to charging you a fee based on the value of the items being mailed, if you send them COD, you get hit for the cash price as well.

otomodachi

Valethar wrote: »

They fleece you for using the mail too. In addition to charging you a fee based on the value of the items being mailed, if you send them COD, you get hit for the cash price as well.

It is in fact exceedingly annoying trying to set up a sale where the buyer pays full postage because the more you raise the COD the more the postage goes up, and vice versa.

Ashigaru

otomodachi wrote: »

Valethar wrote: »

They fleece you for using the mail too. In addition to charging you a fee based on the value of the items being mailed, if you send them COD, you get hit for the cash price as well.

It is in fact exceedingly annoying trying to set up a sale where the buyer pays full postage because the more you raise the COD the more the postage goes up, and vice versa.

Have then send you the postage first then send the COD, i know sounds crazy but its the only way you can make any money, i sold some ingots for like 2500 and i think i was going to get 1850 out of it, made that mistake only once.
I dont cod anything unless its under 1k and i sure as heck dont use the store for anything over 1k. Its too high and then you look at the cost of bags, the increase is a decent rate but once you hit 100 its 19200 for 10 more slots that jumps from 11200 its ridicules and i have not even looked at enlarging my guild bank o and ya lets look at repairs while we are at it. I am lvl 50 right now and it was 1900 last time i repaired.

O funny note talking about cash dumps, i was porting around last night using the map and it was pretty decent price at around 130 or so, the places i was porting to were numerous and i didnt stay long in one area, so i ported around like 4 or 5 times and then i get the pop up but this time it tells me i have been porting to fast and the price jumped from 130 to 830 which is ridicules.

So lets see ....
We have COD price gouging
We have Guild store gouging (which the guild tax should go to the guild but it is too darn high)
Umporpornate Bag slot pricing (jumps from 11200 to 19200)
Insane repair prices that only get higher as you level (i dont even have a set at 50 because i usually end up trading out looted gear for broken gear do i dont have to pay a repair bill)
Tricky dicky porting fees that go from 130 to 830 after a few jumps.

That is entirely too many gold sinks.

Laplace

Who uses the map-travel except in emergencies?

Travel to a Wayshrine, and use it manually. Free ports.

Jambo

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Cogo

The fees are fine. Thats what you pay for your AUTOMATIC sales. You could sell to other players the REAL way. Offer it at a merchant area or zone.

People have gotten way to spoiled with the game doing everything for you. Try to do something yourself!

DotAwkward

Jambo wrote: »

If it goes nowhere, why is there 2 differant types of commission? makes no sense.

25% seems a tad high for it to go nowhere

One of them is a gold sink, the other you get back when the item sells.

Jeremy

rnehrlichub17_ESO wrote: »

The guild store fees are insane. The listing fee should be returned when a sale is made and be in place as a security deposit system to prevent early removal of listings. As it is right now, market value of many crafting goods minus the 25% hit are less than what I can vendor them for on the guild store, which a very sad state of affairs.

I agree. Just one more obstacle that makes an already bad economy even worse.

Rage_Frost

DotAwkward wrote: »

Jambo wrote: »

If it goes nowhere, why is there 2 differant types of commission? makes no sense.

25% seems a tad high for it to go nowhere

One of them is a gold sink, the other you get back when the item sells.

this is false.
When you list an item 15% of the sale price is taking from gold on hand.
Once the item sells another 10% of the sale price is taking out of the sale mail that you get.

So lets make this easy you have 100 gold on your person IE Inventory

you list an item for 100 Gold on the Guild Store. 15% is now taking out of your personal Inventory leaving you with 85 Gold now "I key" "look at gold on hand"

That item sells for 100 gold that you listed it for now you will get a mail for 90 Gold from the system. This is with the 10% guild Cut.

Total gold on hand 175 Gold "I Key" "Personal Inventory"

out of the 100 gold you started out with and the 100 sale price you just lost 25%
Try it on an alt if you don't want to take my word for it....

I have also started two threads on this issue with no Dev Response on where the Guild Cut is going.

In game Tool Tip.
House Cut: When the item sells, 10% of the sale price is kept by the guild store. If the item does not sell you are not charged this fee.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/74755/where-our-guild-profit-for-the-store/p1



http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/84864/guild-campaign-in-history-officer-chat-guild-cut-from-store#latest

This is also a list of Guild Bugs in game too..

DotAwkward

You are correct. I took a closer look at my sales today and you don't get the amount back when it sells.
On a related note - they really need to add something in the mail that tells you what sold.

Greydog

DotAwkward wrote: »

You are correct. I took a closer look at my sales today and you don't get the amount back when it sells.
On a related note - they really need to add something in the mail that tells you what sold.

Who you sold it to would be nice too.

tw1jaysin

Good news. If you look at the upcoming patch notes they mentioned lowering the fees.

Vodka

I wish I got 10% from my guild store got over 1000 items and 350 members o.O