A poll about crossplay

Hamfast

Don't care

I don't care... I will not care until it affects me... so I hope I can continue to not care.

Silaf

Yes but I have some concerns about it

frogthroat wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

I don't believe the current infrastructure can handle this transition without severely damaging the player experience.

Please provide the technical analysis why you think combining server hardware will result in lower performance.

Well it doesn't take a genious to guess that putting togheter different parts and making a system more complex will inevitably slow it down.
Source: i played lego when i was little.

zaria

Fischblut wrote: »

If I had any influence on this, I would say absolutely no to crossplay
But it looks like this is happening regardless, so I just voice my opinion...

The only positive change coming with crossplay might be increasing pool of competent people to pug trials and dungeons with. All other gameplay aspects are absolutely fine (on PC).

Negative is: I see posts about bot infestation on consoles in social media. On PC, last time I saw a bot was many years ago... I absolutely hate the thought of seeing bots again and having to report them instead of playing the game and relaxing
Plus, if what people say is true, players on consoles can create accounts endlessly, so with one bot gone, another appears easily?
I really hope developers will have some system to prevent this, so when crossplay actually arrives, gameplay doesn't become worse.

This is an relevant point. As I understand the issue is that you can create new accounts for free while on PC if you get banned you have to buy the game again. Why its no link the the console account I can not understand, it has to have one connection for buying stuff anyway.

Morvan

Yes

Crossplay will happen regardless, they're already working on it, every issue I see pointed out here are either things I consider temporary problems (if they turn out to be problems at all) or just things that they can easily circumvent, like the character name issue.

Any problems with the economy will stabilize over time, they don't need to change our character names, just add the platform beside our nameplates, not in the name itself, and I don't believe population will affect performance at all considering it's way lower than it used to be, if anything merging the servers will just get us back to 2020 numbers.

moderatelyfatman

Yes but I have some concerns about it

Crossplay sounds like a cost saving measure to cut down the number of servers.
Admittedly it would help right now by combining the two populations, but what happens if ESO gets popular again?

Jammy420

Yes

Looks like most want it. Shocker. Not really.

Jammy420

Yes

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

Crossplay sounds like a cost saving measure to cut down the number of servers.
Admittedly it would help right now by combining the two populations, but what happens if ESO gets popular again?

ESO is still the number 3 mmo last time I checked, it is still quite popular.

twisttop138

Yes but I have some concerns about it

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I'm concerned about the console economy vs pc economy.

This is where I start to have concerns. I'm on PSNA where it doesn't appear we have a population issue. I am for it for the folks on servers that do have issues though. Except when we start getting down to the nitty gritty little things, I wonder what they'll do. They cannot, repeat cannot just merge every NA server just all the way. It needs to be everyone is on their own servers but can play together in que pops and instanced stuff like dungeons and trials and bgs. When I go to a trader, it needs to be a psna trader.

LesserCircle

No

olda90 wrote: »

[snip]

LoL this is the state of ESO made by players that want this game to be dead, careful you might get reported if you think differently and point out your thoughts.

I'm extremely social in-game with text chat however, I don't want a VC feature, that goes against every MMO I have ever played on PC, IF I want VC I go to Discord or any other similar app, PC players are not used to in game VC in this type of game.
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BretonMage

No

We have problems with lag and desync now, can't imagine what it's going to be like with cross-play I don't mind other issues like duplicate names or the economy, but having a smoothly running game is absolutely essential.

SerafinaWaterstar

Don't care

Personally this is not something that bothers me at all.

Will it be all servers, or still separate EU and NA servers?

Have concerns about the economy, as others have stated, as PS does not have the issues PC have.

Add-ons would also be a concern as PS does not have the same add-ons as PC.

And never realised PC does not have vc! Seriously?! Lol.

LesserCircle

No

Jammy420 wrote: »

Looks like most want it. Shocker. Not really.

What platform do you play in? You don't have to answer this because of privacy, however I suspect most people who want this are playing on console which is fair, population is lower there and it can only be a good thing, but I play on PC and I guess I'm selfish for this but as a game that released in 2014, having played from 2015 and never having crossplay, population has always been high and this is just trouble for us on PC IMO. I would prefer if it was crossplay only between consoles.

DenverRalphy

No

LesserCircle wrote: »

olda90 wrote: »

[snip]

LoL this is the state of ESO made by players that want this game to be dead, careful you might get reported if you think differently and point out your thoughts.

I'm extremely social in-game with text chat however, I don't want a VC feature, that goes against every MMO I have ever played on PC, IF I want VC I go to Discord or any other similar app, PC players are not used to in game VC in this type of game.

As someone who's played both consoles and PC, there's really no difference in practice as to when VC is used. Console players aren't walking around the game using VC everywhere they go. They typically only use VC in the same manner and instances as PC players.
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ESO_player123

No

Personally, I do not need it since I play on PCNA, and I also have my concerns.

One is bots that was mentioned by one of the earlier posters. Just like them, I have not seen bots on PCNA, but it seems to be a problem on consoles (judging by the occasional posts describing the situation). I definitely do not want this to become part of my gaming experience.

Another big one is the lack of any information regarding handling duplicate names. It has been discussed at length in other threads before, so I just mention it here.

Soarora

Yes but I have some concerns about it

No, but it’s inevitable so I said yes with concerns. I don’t want voice chat on pc, I hear consoles are more toxic, and the economy.

I’m not anti-social, I just don’t want to hear people unless I’m in a vc. I tend to listen to music… but if I just turn off vc, then I can’t hear people ask for help in a dungeon pug… I also don’t talk to strangers.

Economy-wise, not only would gold be inflated further due to the increased amount of it, there would be a shock to the console economies because gold is already worth a lot less on pc.

FurryCandyHearts

Don't care

it is my sincere hope that ZOS monitizes crossplay in such a way that anyone who wishes to use it must pay a subscription fee over and above eso+ to use it. If it's included in eso+ then i will likely cancel my subscription

alternatelder

Yes but I have some concerns about it

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

Silaf wrote: »

I'm worried it may increase the lag.

This is my concern. It doesn't matter that I have 600+mbs speed connections, it doesn't even matter for those that had 1gb fiber, there is lag everywhere that greatly affects my gameplay especially during combat. If this makes it even slightly laggier, the game is worse off than not having crossplay.

be on the other end of that stick and be the console play that gets that lag whos going to fell it most ???? and psn lags just as bad if not more than PC at times

I am on the other end of that stick. I play on Playstation where the lag prevents me from switching bars, where the health desyncs cause me to go from 70-100% health down to zero with no time to react despite me spamming the heal button.

LesserCircle

No

Soarora wrote: »

No, but it’s inevitable so I said yes with concerns. I don’t want voice chat on pc, I hear consoles are more toxic, and the economy.

I’m not anti-social, I just don’t want to hear people unless I’m in a vc. I tend to listen to music… but if I just turn off vc, then I can’t hear people ask for help in a dungeon pug… I also don’t talk to strangers.

Economy-wise, not only would gold be inflated further due to the increased amount of it, there would be a shock to the console economies because gold is already worth a lot less on pc.

This is exactly my concerns as well, the economy would be nuked in ways we don't even know, PC players have a lot more gold, prices are a lot higher all over the board and then we have the console mat farming bots.

Then the VC issue that isn't standard at all on PC, MMO games don't have voice chat, having played for so many years, getting this feature would change the game completely in ways that I don't agree with. I basically see the console version of ESO as an almost different game basically which it almost is honestly. I can even see people discriminating against console players on some of the harder content which would be awful for console players.

FurryCandyHearts

Don't care

freespirit wrote: »

I voted no because I have huge, absolutely massive concerns about ZoS's ability to get this done and get it done right on release!!

There have been some really rocky, well let's face it apalling releases recently!

*cough, cough, that totally AMAZING, first time ever World Event.....we all remember how well that went. 😮

i was having a sabatical. how did the wall thingy go?

Maitsukas

No

tomofhyrule wrote: »

The other big concern would be unifying the patches since that'll make updates and incrementals take longer to release due to certification, but... well, we got that one at the beginning of the year. We've already gone from 5 weeks of PTS and 1 week of prep to 4 weeks of PTS and 4 weeks of prep before major patches release now.

I don't know if you've noticed it, but PC incremental patches have moved from a 2-week cadence to a 3-week one now:

• 11.3.4 released on March 9
• 11.3.5 released on March 30
• 11.3.6 released on April 20

SANGUARI

No

Pros

A more populated overworld would be a clear improvement. The game feels better when zones are active and alive.

Cons / Concerns

As a PC player, I rely heavily on addons. I’ve built up a large addon setup over many years, covering both utility and cosmetic improvements. Without addons, I would not continue playing the game.

There is likely to be friction in high-end content. Players may start blaming wipes or failures on “PC players having addons,” which creates unnecessary division.

The main risk: if crossplay leads to restrictions or removal of addons on PC for parity reasons, that would be a breaking point for me.

LesserCircle

No

SANGUARI wrote: »

Pros

A more populated overworld would be a clear improvement. The game feels better when zones are active and alive.

Cons / Concerns

As a PC player, I rely heavily on addons. I’ve built up a large addon setup over many years, covering both utility and cosmetic improvements. Without addons, I would not continue playing the game.

There is likely to be friction in high-end content. Players may start blaming wipes or failures on “PC players having addons,” which creates unnecessary division.

The main risk: if crossplay leads to restrictions or removal of addons on PC for parity reasons, that would be a breaking point for me.

Consoles have addons now as well, they can't use the PC addons directly as far as I know but they have their own.

ESO_player123

No

SANGUARI wrote: »

Pros

A more populated overworld would be a clear improvement. The game feels better when zones are active and alive.

Cons / Concerns

As a PC player, I rely heavily on addons. I’ve built up a large addon setup over many years, covering both utility and cosmetic improvements. Without addons, I would not continue playing the game.

There is likely to be friction in high-end content. Players may start blaming wipes or failures on “PC players having addons,” which creates unnecessary division.

The main risk: if crossplay leads to restrictions or removal of addons on PC for parity reasons, that would be a breaking point for me.

That would be a breaking point for me as well, but consoles now also have addons. So, it's unlikely to happen.

DragonRacer

Yes but I have some concerns about it

I genuinely do not care to have crossplay added or not. I have concerns it will cause more harm than good, but that really doesn't matter since it is eventually going to be forced upon us anyway.

My concerns range from game stability, which already generally suffers, and what's gonna happen to trading guilds and the economy. The gold disparity between PC and console guilds is rather large and unless something is sorted out beforehand, all console trading guilds will eventually go extinct and your choice will be to join a PC trading guild or never sell in a guild trader again.

So, you know, that's a fun "worry" to have as a console trading guild GM.

And the times that has been brought up, the ZOS response has largely been along the lines of "it's too early for worry about that" and "everything is being carefully considered" and essentially a "trust me, bro". But, uh, I can *literally* point to an event where ZOS had no clue about console economics when they removed the ability to sort guild store listings by time listed - removed it from console/gamepad mode but not from regular PC - two weeks before Zeal of Zenithar last year, the biggest trading guild event of the year. And until I and many others screamed bloody murder from the rafters in here, only then was it acknowledged that ZOS had no idea how much that setting affected console sales and good on them for listening to us and fixing it... but the fix came *after* the event ended, so the damage was already done.

They'll have to forgive me, in the event of PC vs console trading guilds looming over our heads with forced crossplay, if "trust me, bro" does not reassure me in the slightest.

Jsmalls

Yes

I voted yes, Cyrodiil desperately needs a boost in is population.

My pipe dream is... They figured out what they need from the vengeance server, then when crossplay is finally effective we see a ~1000 player Cyrodiil (all the bells and whistles) again. One can at least dream.

Then would love to see a Siege rework after the Class reworks (or in tandem).

ESO PvP is still in my opinion the best in the genre. Just needs a good refresh.

ADarklore

Yes

I picked YES... because once the player count starts dropping, as is inevitable with an older game and when ES6 releases... at least this way people can still find groups and PvP... even though I don't participate in either. I still think it's a good thing to have MORE players in an MMO, than less.

DenverRalphy

No

ADarklore wrote: »

I picked YES... because once the player count starts dropping, as is inevitable with an older game and when ES6 releases... <Snip>

If a TES6 release were a major factor, we'd still have a good decade before needing to worry about crossplay.

tomofhyrule

Yes but I have some concerns about it

DenverRalphy wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

I picked YES... because once the player count starts dropping, as is inevitable with an older game and when ES6 releases... <Snip>

If a TES6 release were a major factor, we'd still have a good decade before needing to worry about crossplay.

Considering the arguments we’ve had on the forum lately though (“How dare other people exist in my game?!” “Why is this game forcing me to group for literally everything?!”), there is going to be a major population loss when TES6 does eventually release.

I hope ESO does have things to offer that TES6 won’t so players will come back to it.

LunaFlora

Yes

unless TES6 offers multiplayer, similar Housing, Fashion, Maormer race, every zone from ESO.
i cannot imagine a huge population loss happening for a long time.

Personally i look forward to playing TES6 when it releases, but i could probably finish it within a month

allochthons

How many times are we going to get this same poll?