Event fatigue

AzraelKrieg

ZOS, you really need to look at the cadence of events after this year because the fatigue is real. Logged in just now to see that another event has started after we just finished the god awful Writhing Wall event which overlapped with the Witches' Festival. The more events that you run, the less impact the events have because instead of being fun, they feel like a chore, and the rewards for doing them seem to not be worth it when the drop rate for the good rewards that people do these events to get is so abysmal.

Callmelalisa

Well, I like that they put on events so I can get tickets quickly and buy what I want. The events are voluntary; if you don't want to participate dont do it ^^

AzraelKrieg

I'll be doing the bare minimum for the event. I don't think there are too many events, just that there are too many too quickly.

Jaimeh

I wasn't expecting one until New Life, and though I'm happy about the Julianos Chapel fragment, it's just too much after having the Witches fest and the Writhing Wall (plus, I really dislike the dailies grind). The good news is that the new style pages seem like a guaranteed drop on the first golden box (thank you for that, ZOS), so I can be finished after one daily, but the timing of the event is a shame because otherwise it's really nice to see these zones populated and people running things there.

Gabriel_H

CWC, Vvardenfell and Summerset were packed. So, while some may be suffering event fatigue, there seems to be plenty that aren't.

Parrot1986

Gabriel_H wrote: »

CWC, Vvardenfell and Summerset were packed. So, while some may be suffering event fatigue, there seems to be plenty that aren't.

I was there and still have fatigue to use OPs term. That doesn’t mean people are happy, some will just want tickets and items that are only around for a while because of FOMO.

I’m more annoyed at being given old content to do which takes 10 minutes as an event whilst being given less and less new content to do which I pay for.

Content pass has given us less this year at least, more QoL patches with no new content and some content they bring in just getting ignored like subclass balancing.

For me it’s not just the events, it’s the whole part of what you get for ESO right now and just having short term burst events one after another, most with no new aspect to them other than some style pages is a bit crap.

Gabriel_H

Parrot1986 wrote: »

I was there and still have fatigue to use OPs term. That doesn’t mean people are happy, some will just want tickets and items that are only around for a while because of FOMO.

I’m more annoyed at being given old content to do which takes 10 minutes as an event whilst being given less and less new content to do which I pay for.

Content pass has given us less this year at least, more QoL patches with no new content and some content they bring in just getting ignored like subclass balancing.

For me it’s not just the events, it’s the whole part of what you get for ESO right now and just having short term burst events one after another, most with no new aspect to them other than some style pages is a bit crap.

Being unhappy and being fatigued are not the same thing.
I, and I suspect a lot of others, are happy Daedric is back as I wasn't around the last time due to well, actual extreme fatigue.
Subjective. Seemed the same amount of playable hours as most other chapters to me.
It's always been that. It drives player numbers.

Orbital78

There will be enough people in the zones that a simple daily can be done quickly for your two tickets and gold coffer/style page. The box drop rate is pretty bad. You're not missing much by doing minimum unless you want to breakneck harvest when profits are low.

DinoZavr

There are no Twitch drops for new Events, as ever-overlapping Events became somewhat ordinary for Zenimax...
i'd like to be surprised like at January,14th "Hey folks, only the next week in 2026 is unique because of no Events, this is why we have activated drops. Use your only chance, folks!"

Melivar

I just went and checked my achievements for the 3 zones and have 6 dailies left for summerset delves and a bunch of the non WB, crow ones for clockwork. Thankfully Vvaredenfell is done as the zone is so darn big the dailies can be a pain. (This took 10 minutes last night to wrap up)

The clockwork one will cover the whole event the summerset one i will finish then just do a WB daily the rest of the event.

Will also be looking for Vet Cloudrest and Vet Asylum Sanctorum groups to work on perfected sticker book with double drops

These zone events are great as if your newer you can pretty quickly get your sticker book filled for the zones and normal trials and if you have been around forever you can put in minimal effort to get tickets and move on with your day.

Juju_beans

I only logged in to do one daily that gives you tickets.
No fatigue here and I got the fragments.

I may play a bit more with the Christmas event as I like them but I'm not going to do every single quest on every single character...that's too much

I can understand the frustration from completionists but I'm not one of them.

ToddIngram

If we count the golden pursuit, we have 3 events running at the same time right now.

Ya, it's a little bit much.

Orbital78

At least older dead zones are not so dead for a week or whatever. The only reason to grind this event is if you are new or just really like the zones. The motifs are old and worth little, though if you wanna farm shrooms you might get lucky with the ultra rares or paintings.

IMO bring back MORE of these events, I want another dragon hunting week or two. The only time I see large groups doing these older zones is guild event groups.

twisttop138

Gabriel_H wrote: »

CWC, Vvardenfell and Summerset were packed. So, while some may be suffering event fatigue, there seems to be plenty that aren't.

That's cause it's the greatest story arc in the game, my good sir.

Event fatigue, I guess could be a thing. People will either play or not. I'm back 8 months now after a break of a few years so many events this year are my first. I don't feel like I have to do them but I love Vvardenfel and Summerset. CWC is also pretty cool. I saw someone say that the trials didn't have double loot drops. I hope that's untrue.

Orbital78

twisttop138 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

CWC, Vvardenfell and Summerset were packed. So, while some may be suffering event fatigue, there seems to be plenty that aren't.

That's cause it's the greatest story arc in the game, my good sir.

Event fatigue, I guess could be a thing. People will either play or not. I'm back 8 months now after a break of a few years so many events this year are my first. I don't feel like I have to do them but I love Vvardenfel and Summerset. CWC is also pretty cool. I saw someone say that the trials didn't have double loot drops. I hope that's untrue.

I think only the weekly has two coffers, I saw no mention of double items but I could be mistaken. I had suggested to one of my GM's to schedule more signups for these trials but then I noticed no double drops. At least they will get more coffers, but I don't think I would want to run vHoF just for something I get harvesting or killing standard mobs.

twisttop138

Orbital78 wrote: »

twisttop138 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

CWC, Vvardenfell and Summerset were packed. So, while some may be suffering event fatigue, there seems to be plenty that aren't.

That's cause it's the greatest story arc in the game, my good sir.

Event fatigue, I guess could be a thing. People will either play or not. I'm back 8 months now after a break of a few years so many events this year are my first. I don't feel like I have to do them but I love Vvardenfel and Summerset. CWC is also pretty cool. I saw someone say that the trials didn't have double loot drops. I hope that's untrue.

I think only the weekly has two coffers, I saw no mention of double items but I could be mistaken. I had suggested to one of my GM's to schedule more signups for these trials but then I noticed no double drops. At least they will get more coffers, but I don't think I would want to run vHoF just for something I get harvesting or killing standard mobs.

Yeah I really need to research this. I was about to post a roster or this evening.

AzuraFan

You can get your two daily tickets really quickly and then go about your business elsewhere.

I like this event because I need two leads in Summerset and nobody is ever around for WBs and such. Got one lead already and hope to get the other one by the time the event ends. I prefer events like this, that bring people back into specific zones.

scrappy1342

probably quicker to do the ones in vvardenfell over clockwork. on my main account, i picked up the clockwork quest because i like the zone and i don't visit it constantly like i do vvardenfell. killed the crow bosses... and then very quickly remembered how much i hate having to wait for the daedra incursions because a thousand other ppl are annihilating them XD grabbed the vivec daily on my alt account and it was much less frustrating.

robpr

It feels like a fatigue because its another event that has "do a standard zone daily and open the box" type of event. The same each year. No special zone/quest/story to run alongside the event.

Witches Festival adding Crow and Hollowjack boss fights was a step in right direction but all other events run exactly the same each year with just new style pages to collect.

phairdon

Easy to overcome. Don't participate.

Selendai

Gabriel_H wrote: »

CWC, Vvardenfell and Summerset were packed. So, while some may be suffering event fatigue, there seems to be plenty that aren't.

You would be very surprised actually, a lot of people just do the event quests by habit but everyone is very tired... And 8k endeavors feels like the easy option ...

Ingel_Riday

I'm doing the bare minimum for the event, personally. One daily in Summerset, one in Clockwork, and that's it.

I'm very tired of the FOMO and the constant events, but I'm learning to just play the game less and do other things. Beat Donkey Kong Bananza recently. Was wonderful. Beat SpongeBob Squarepants: Titans of the TIde. Wonderful. Games that aren't live service are VERY nice. It feels like they value my time more.

I wish ESO would gave us a "vacation" event of a month with no fomo. No limited time Crown store items. No daily rewards that you'll miss out on if you don't log in. No limited time costumes tied to limited time events. No endeavour challenges. No checklist Golden Pursuits that remind me of Anthem's late-game filler content.

Just "hey, nice to see you. We've had all our psychologists and marketers go on sabbatical. Just do what you want. Don't worry about it. Pick an alt, pick a zone, and enjor yourself. You won't be missing out on anything."

Won't happen. :-D There's too much money in making sure the Pareto-Principle folk log in every day, and if we weren't given endless checklists to whittle away at, we might take a break, play something else, and wind up never coming back. That's why this event is going to end and immediately get replaced by a Vengeance event, which will be immediately followed up by a New Life holiday event AND an associated Golden Pursuit checklist, which will then be immediately followed up by something else. Oi vei.

But hey, @Callmelalisa , we could just ignore them. Sure... but let's be real, that argument is incredibly naive. This game uses every psychological trick in the book to make players feel compelled to do the events. To get players to buy cosmetics and gamble crates and so on. "DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT, DO YA!!!" And said tricks work. That's why big studios employ dedicated teams for these kinds of things. Because they work. Because people see that player house X is only available for the next 4 days and go "ugh, artificial deadlines made to pressure me into dumping $42.99 on a digital home. Such overt tripe. I could get a whole game for that. Heck, I could get a half a dozen old AAA games for that. But if I don't get this house... it might not be listed again for YEARS. Do I really want to miss out on this one chance to procure it? Do I? Do I....?"

There's another sale. People see that the Lord Seht costume is only available for this event, and they don't want to have a gap in their Fashion Scrolls outfit book, and it's ONLY two dailies a day for 12 days, and even though they don't want anything to do with yet more grinding... do they really want to miss out on the costume? Do they? Do they....?

If it was so easy for people to resist these tricks and tools of the trade, said dedicated teams wouldn't have jobs. They have jobs because they are, in fact, NOT easy to resist (when done right). People will grumble, complain, and roll their eyes... while doing them anyway.

I don't fault some players for sighing in vexation. It is tedious. Purposefully tedious, but purposefully never QUITE tedious enough to make you quit outright... if it can be helped. Writhing Wall was a major misfire in that regard. Gotta know just how far you can push the envelope before indignation kicks in.

Edit addition: Oh, and lest we forget... the Writhing Wall event went on for 40 DAYS and overlapped the Halloween Event, which ran simultaneously for 12 or so days. There was a Golden Pursuit going on at the same time, alongside endeavours that never synced up with ANY of the above events (which, I imagine, was on purpose to increase engagement figures). A lot of "you don't want to miss out, do ya?" going on. Again, I think telling people to ignore all of the above is naive. It's hard to ignore such heavy-handed, insistent, excessively prodigious FOMO.

SilverBride

I've had event fatigue for a long time now, which is why I only participate if there is something I am working toward, such as a free house. Then I only do the bare minimum I need to acquire it. So this time I bought the third fragment then did just enough to fill my tickets back up and I'm done.

Events were MUCH more enjoyable when they were spread out and felt special. Three events in a month, overlapping each other, do not feel special. They feel like sensory overload.

Vulkunne

Yeah, I'm still burned out from the anniversary event. Alot of 'things' happened there which makes me think about how I spend my time in game. If it's not worth doing, I don't do it.

DoofusMax

Kind of agree on that, but also note that Writhing Wall plays a huge role in that fatigue. Under normal circumstances (meaning "back in the before times when we got chapters"), we'd have seen major events with 2-3 weeks break between them. The new-chapter event would have run for a couple of weeks, then a break before Witches, then another break before a story arc. Writhing Wall running as long as it did meant we will have been in event-mode for more than seven weeks by the time Daedric War ends.