Like a whole new game...

Unfadingsilence

So for the last few weeks, I have been playing on my new PC....
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
GPU GeForce RTX 5090
MEMORY
128GB DDR5
STORAGE
8TB SSD
For all of my nerds out there and I honestly have to say inside PvP during prime time its truly amazing and almost feels like cheating at this point. Does anyone else actually play on a high end gaming PC and how do you feel about it? Should they actually limit how much someone can or cant use when it comes down to their own system and what is acceptable?

Stamicka

I mean ESO can still run on the Xbox One and that thing is extremely weak. Regardless of what you’re on it’ll still be laggy cause of server issues.

I have very new hardware and I still experienced frame drops in many situations. My monitor supports 165 FPS so I cap it there. Extra frames are noticeable, but I’m originally from Xbox so I know that ESO is just as playable with much lower FPS.

What’s causing you to feel like you have an advantage in PvP? ESO isn’t a game where client performance is super important since it’s so casual. We all suffer from the same prime time lag regardless.

Anyway, hopefully you can find something that actually justifies those specs. I’ve found that most games released now will just perform badly because they’re badly optimized. Better hardware helps, but upgrading isn’t something worth the price at all atm.

Horace-Wimp

I had the same reaction the better part of 20 years ago when I was playing World of Warcraft. I bought a new top of the line gaming PC and could not believe the night and day difference in how the game looked. It was amazing.

I got to experience the same thing again a few years later when I bought another top of the line gaming PC while playing the MMO Rift. It was a completely new gaming experience. Made the open world Volan zone event in Ashora truly epic.

Gratz on your toy. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Rohamad_Ali

8T of storage what a great PC. Congratulations.

Unfadingsilence

Stamicka wrote: »

I mean ESO can still run on the Xbox One and that thing is extremely weak. Regardless of what you’re on it’ll still be laggy cause of server issues.

I have very new hardware and I still experienced frame drops in many situations. My monitor supports 165 FPS so I cap it there. Extra frames are noticeable, but I’m originally from Xbox so I know that ESO is just as playable with much lower FPS.

What’s causing you to feel like you have an advantage in PvP? ESO isn’t a game where client performance is super important since it’s so casual. We all suffer from the same prime time lag regardless.

Anyway, hopefully you can find something that actually justifies those specs. I’ve found that most games released now will just perform badly because they’re badly optimized. Better hardware helps, but upgrading isn’t something worth the price at all atm.

I'm definitely looking forward to some upcoming games and I make alot of content not gaming content so I need these specs but even in prime time p v p I am not seeing any issues.No, crashing, no lag nothing, but I am seeing other players move relatively slow or them. Just freezing outright during high intense battles

Unfadingsilence

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

I had the same reaction the better part of 20 years ago when I was playing World of Warcraft. I bought a new top of the line gaming PC and could not believe the night and day difference in how the game looked. It was amazing.

I got to experience the same thing again a few years later when I bought another top of the line gaming PC while playing the MMO Rift. It was a completely new gaming experience. Made the open world Volan zone event in Ashora truly epic.

Gratz on your toy. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Its truly beautiful like a whole new game im just so shocked with how it looks and feels, makes me want to get back into gaming content

Sarannah

Nice new PC, awesome specs! What is the RAM speed?

Really hope you also use a 4k monitor, as the game is truly beautiful with high settings in 4k! Especially on a 30+ inch monitor.

PS: ZOS should never limit anything hardware-wise.
PPS: People hardly ever believe me when I state it could be their hardware probably/possibly causing their problem(s) with the game.

SeaGtGruff

Yeah, I'm currently playing ESO on a gaming laptop and was able to start using much higher graphics setting than on my old PC that died. The game truly looks and plays amazing on a powerful PC. The other night I decided to grind some dolmens on one of my alts-- not for XP, but rather for jewelry to deconstruct for a daily endeavor-- and I don't know if it was a combination of the crisper graphics, the bright colors in the Rift on a sunny day, or what, but I swear the dolmens actually felt like they had been revamped and ramped up in intensity (such as how much the ground shook when the dark anchors dropped). I wondered if the dolmens in certain zones have been improved for the upcoming Writhing Wall event, or if it was just a combination of those things I just mentioned, but it was like the dolmens were totally awesome again.

Unfadingsilence

Sarannah wrote: »

Nice new PC, awesome specs! What is the RAM speed?

Really hope you also use a 4k monitor, as the game is truly beautiful with high settings in 4k! Especially on a 30+ inch monitor.

PS: ZOS should never limit anything hardware-wise.
PPS: People hardly ever believe me when I state it could be their hardware probably/possibly causing their problem(s) with the game.

Sarannah wrote: »

Nice new PC, awesome specs! What is the RAM speed?

Really hope you also use a 4k monitor, as the game is truly beautiful with high settings in 4k! Especially on a 30+ inch monitor.

PS: ZOS should never limit anything hardware-wise.
PPS: People hardly ever believe me when I state it could be their hardware probably/possibly causing their problem(s) with the game.

Since im rocking 128GB DDR5 its around 5600–6000 MHz and yah 4k maxed out everything it truly is beautiful to look at even in pvp now my FPS dont drop below 250

Unfadingsilence

Sarannah wrote: »

Nice new PC, awesome specs! What is the RAM speed?

Really hope you also use a 4k monitor, as the game is truly beautiful with high settings in 4k! Especially on a 30+ inch monitor.

PS: ZOS should never limit anything hardware-wise.
PPS: People hardly ever believe me when I state it could be their hardware probably/possibly causing their problem(s) with the game.

And yes after getting this new PC and I see people in chat talking about performance i now also wonder if it is a hardware problem on their end with the game because yes im seeing the "lag" still but what I see is way different im seeing other people moving slow or stopping all together while im still seeing ball groups just run over these frozen people and killing everything in their path

Northwold

Beyond the resolution I'm not understanding why this would give anyone an advantage (unless they had eg a deeply problematic internet connection before). ESO simply isn't performance-intensive enough client side for a switch from anything but the worst performing PC to make any difference to things like lag, which is server related. I occasionally play on 4k and it's great to see chests etc miles and miles away (and that genuinely is game changing, especially on a very big screen), but beyond that I've not found having a decent pc makes a great deal of difference. Indeed, historically in battles on the rare occasions I've done PvP I've found doing things very, very fast then results in a crash / getting out of sync because of what's (not) happening server side.

StihlReign

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

So for the last few weeks, I have been playing on my new PC....
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
GPU GeForce RTX 5090
MEMORY
128GB DDR5
STORAGE
8TB SSD
For all of my nerds out there and I honestly have to say inside PvP during prime time its truly amazing and almost feels like cheating at this point. Does anyone else actually play on a high end gaming PC and how do you feel about it? Should they actually limit how much someone can or cant use when it comes down to their own system and what is acceptable?

Nice! Yep, I've been blessed to play on some pretty nice machines since the game started and I believe it makes a difference. I cap my fps to 100 for this game (from the ingame menu), the ROGs can run super fast OC so ESO is no issue, Samsung hasn't had any problems either. Ran a 5 series for a bit but switched ESO back to the 3090 24GB machine. Really no issues on the 3090 24, except when everyone else is crashing, so am I lol. Game looks awesome, every setting on ultra, rock solid.

Unfadingsilence

Northwold wrote: »

Beyond the resolution I'm not understanding why this would give anyone an advantage (unless they had eg a deeply problematic internet connection before). ESO simply isn't performance-intensive enough client side for a switch from anything but the worst performing PC to make any difference to things like lag, which is server related. I occasionally play on 4k and it's great to see chests etc miles and miles away (and that genuinely is game changing, especially on a very big screen), but beyond that I've not found having a decent pc makes a great deal of difference. Indeed, historically in battles on the rare occasions I've done PvP I've found doing things very, very fast then results in a crash / getting out of sync because of what's (not) happening server side.

There's huge differences when it comes down to performance on what you're actually running.So I'll give you an example.My old setup, I had a gaming laptop that was extremely old "2020" gaming laptop my old CPU was Intel Core i5-9300H (4 cores / 8 threads, 2.4–4.1 GHz) my new one is AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D (8 cores / 16 threads, 3D V-Cache ~5.0 GHz) making the game run ~3× faster in games, much larger cache = smoother frames, zero stutter

My GPU was NVIDIA GTX 1050 (4 GB VRAM, ~2 TFLOPs) and my new one NVIDIA RTX 5090 (~32–40 GB VRAM, > 100 TFLOPs est.) Making it ~40–50× more raw power, supports full ray tracing & DLSS 4

My old RAM was 16 GB DDR4 (2400 MHz) and my new RAM 128 GB DDR5 (6000 MHz) making it able to be 8× capacity, 2.5× speed, huge multitasking / future-proofing

My old gaming laptop has DX 12 (Basic) and this new setup has DX 12 Ultimate making it able to have Full ray tracing, mesh shaders, DLSS, frame generation

Giving it a full 2,000–3,000 % increase in performance


And what people don't understand is ESO is heavily CPU-bound in crowded zones (like Cyrodiil, trials, or high-traffic hubs).
That means:

The game engine leans on the CPU more than the GPU.

Weaker CPUs or older ones (like my old i5-9300H) get bottlenecked when the game has to process hundreds of players’ actions simultaneously.

So when there’s lag or frame drops, it’s often not network lag, but your client choking on all that data.
Your PC is trying to draw hundreds of spells, animations, and models every second.

So there are those times where people talk about.Maybe it's your own setup.That's the issue, it might be correct

zaria

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

So for the last few weeks, I have been playing on my new PC....
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
GPU GeForce RTX 5090
MEMORY
128GB DDR5
STORAGE
8TB SSD
For all of my nerds out there and I honestly have to say inside PvP during prime time its truly amazing and almost feels like cheating at this point. Does anyone else actually play on a high end gaming PC and how do you feel about it? Should they actually limit how much someone can or cant use when it comes down to their own system and what is acceptable?

Now that is quite an monster, and yes it's make quite an difference then system get stressed, with my very old graphic card I got lag in trials but with an 4070ti problem is solved.

What was your previous system? I had quite a good system, only the gpu was old, upgraded with covid grant from office because home office and did not upgrade the gpu, did that later.

zaria

Northwold wrote: »

Beyond the resolution I'm not understanding why this would give anyone an advantage (unless they had eg a deeply problematic internet connection before). ESO simply isn't performance-intensive enough client side for a switch from anything but the worst performing PC to make any difference to things like lag, which is server related. I occasionally play on 4k and it's great to see chests etc miles and miles away (and that genuinely is game changing, especially on a very big screen), but beyond that I've not found having a decent pc makes a great deal of difference. Indeed, historically in battles on the rare occasions I've done PvP I've found doing things very, very fast then results in a crash / getting out of sync because of what's (not) happening server side.

You hear lots of people complaining, lots of bad hardware around, also ESO demand much more now than at launch.
Easy fix would be separate graphic settings for PvP and trials, and an test cell for it with lots of effects and npc running around for configuring it easy. But people has issues in busy towns and during event.

So yes *** hardware and cranking setting up to max during the tutorial.
But yes you also have network lag, but don't think server lag is much of an problem anymore.

Unfadingsilence

zaria wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

So for the last few weeks, I have been playing on my new PC....
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
GPU GeForce RTX 5090
MEMORY
128GB DDR5
STORAGE
8TB SSD
For all of my nerds out there and I honestly have to say inside PvP during prime time its truly amazing and almost feels like cheating at this point. Does anyone else actually play on a high end gaming PC and how do you feel about it? Should they actually limit how much someone can or cant use when it comes down to their own system and what is acceptable?

Now that is quite an monster, and yes it's make quite an difference then system get stressed, with my very old graphic card I got lag in trials but with an 4070ti problem is solved.

What was your previous system? I had quite a good system, only the gpu was old, upgraded with covid grant from office because home office and did not upgrade the gpu, did that later.

Just a few posts above, I posted my old specs compared to my new specs like this is outrageous in pvp during prime time no lag at all everything is smooth