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ToT is SO broken It's insane

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I wish the devs would care and play their creations on a daily basis. If they did they'd realize how much the rng is broken in ToT.

It is absolutely recurring that one player gets one turn after the other the right cards in his hand from his pile even after shuffle while the other doesn't that calling this rng or luck is pretty smack in the face of each player.
  • vuwuv
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    It's gone absolutely horrible lately when you have series of at least 5 super unlucky matches in a row.

    Despite just biased tavern where opponent gets tons of contract cards besides good regular cards, your draw pile also aligns in the most horrible way (no combos or all the good cards sitting in the end).

    This unbalance can also play in your favor but still makes a match uninteresting and non-competitive.

    And it all started recently, like 1-2 months ago...
    Edited by vuwuv on October 30, 2025 12:14PM
  • Personofsecrets
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    The RNG seeding is absolutely overdue for review. I doubt that will ever happen though.
  • AnduinTryggva
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    There is another very game-breaking issue related to the fake rng that leads to an artificial and non-randomized accumulation of cards in one's player hand during a turn when the opponent selects rhajin and used bewilderment cards in an attempt to break chain. This mechanic of breaking chains is completely gone partially down the drain when crow cards accurumate in ones hand in one turn anyhow.
  • Calastir
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    It's like the game just marked me as a target to lose against all other players. Good cards and hands evade me like the damn plague.

    It's not a skill issue since I always correctly predict what my opponent will do even though the game always grants them loads of different great options.

    Often the only option left for me is either push next turn or concede.

    Worst is knowing my opponents walk away thinking they've actually accomplished anything themselves.
    Chaszmyr Do'Benrae (Dunmer Magsorc Vampire Infinity) ~ Dusk Doublespeak (Breton Magplar Werewolf) ~ Stan of Rimari (Nord Dragonknight Tank) ~ Bunto Kim Alhambra (Redguard Magplar Paladin) ~ Alicyankali (Argonian Magicka Necromancer Draugr Kin) ~ Gruuman Odinfan (Orsimer Magplar) ~ Boymans van Beuningen (Khajiit Stam Warden Bowzerker) ~ Flannelflail (Imperial Stamina Nightblade Brawler PVP) ~ Calastir (Altmer Stamina Dragonknight) ~ Sallystir (Bosmer Stam Warden Frostbite PVP) ~ Zalastir (Altmer Magicka Warden Ice Storm) ~ Capt Peach (Nord Stamcanist Crux Cannon) ~ PC EU ~ Flynt Westwood (Bosmer Magicka Dragonknight) ~ Chandu the Conjurer (Redguard Magcanist Rune Walker) ~ PC NA ~ since May 26th, 2021.
  • Cooperharley
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    This logic applies to most game systems that have been released unfortunately. They had to adhere to a specific schedule so hardly that it seems like it just got more and more difficulty to keep up with systems that they released. Each subsequent system launched gave them less and less times to update previous things. Companions didn't get anything new this year and they've literally never been updated as a system either. By releasing so much, they shot themselves in the foot
  • Calastir
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    Been at level Voidsteel for 2 weeks now, but the damn game just won't allow me enough wins to finally reach Rubedite.

    Just a few more days and I'll lose all my progress again. Never getting that final trophy furnishing.
    Chaszmyr Do'Benrae (Dunmer Magsorc Vampire Infinity) ~ Dusk Doublespeak (Breton Magplar Werewolf) ~ Stan of Rimari (Nord Dragonknight Tank) ~ Bunto Kim Alhambra (Redguard Magplar Paladin) ~ Alicyankali (Argonian Magicka Necromancer Draugr Kin) ~ Gruuman Odinfan (Orsimer Magplar) ~ Boymans van Beuningen (Khajiit Stam Warden Bowzerker) ~ Flannelflail (Imperial Stamina Nightblade Brawler PVP) ~ Calastir (Altmer Stamina Dragonknight) ~ Sallystir (Bosmer Stam Warden Frostbite PVP) ~ Zalastir (Altmer Magicka Warden Ice Storm) ~ Capt Peach (Nord Stamcanist Crux Cannon) ~ PC EU ~ Flynt Westwood (Bosmer Magicka Dragonknight) ~ Chandu the Conjurer (Redguard Magcanist Rune Walker) ~ PC NA ~ since May 26th, 2021.
  • SilverBride
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    I gave up ranked games a long time ago. I found it way too stressful to get to rubedite and that final trophy. I did it 3 times because I wanted full sets to display in some game rooms, but it kept getting harder and harder and I finally said enough. Now I only play casual, which is just as bad but at least I don't feel the pressure of completing trophy sets.

    Edit: I want to clarify that when I got my trophy sets it was early in the game when there weren't very many decks yet. There is no way I'd try it now with some of the decks that have been added.
    Edited by SilverBride on December 27, 2025 11:00PM
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  • Calastir
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    2 more days of only getting crap cards, crap hands.
    Meanwhile my opponents are constantly getting showered with gifts.

    When this month is over, I'm done with ToT.
    Chaszmyr Do'Benrae (Dunmer Magsorc Vampire Infinity) ~ Dusk Doublespeak (Breton Magplar Werewolf) ~ Stan of Rimari (Nord Dragonknight Tank) ~ Bunto Kim Alhambra (Redguard Magplar Paladin) ~ Alicyankali (Argonian Magicka Necromancer Draugr Kin) ~ Gruuman Odinfan (Orsimer Magplar) ~ Boymans van Beuningen (Khajiit Stam Warden Bowzerker) ~ Flannelflail (Imperial Stamina Nightblade Brawler PVP) ~ Calastir (Altmer Stamina Dragonknight) ~ Sallystir (Bosmer Stam Warden Frostbite PVP) ~ Zalastir (Altmer Magicka Warden Ice Storm) ~ Capt Peach (Nord Stamcanist Crux Cannon) ~ PC EU ~ Flynt Westwood (Bosmer Magicka Dragonknight) ~ Chandu the Conjurer (Redguard Magcanist Rune Walker) ~ PC NA ~ since May 26th, 2021.
  • Altera0x
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    When I was around Hearthstone, they had a statistic that only ~0.2% of players reach their equivalent of Rubedite rank. I wonder, how rank distribution looks like in ToT.
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    Altera0x wrote: »
    When I was around Hearthstone, they had a statistic that only ~0.2% of players reach their equivalent of Rubedite rank. I wonder, how rank distribution looks like in ToT.

    From what I observed, you can achieve Rubedite at place 200 out of ~1500 players overall, so it is top 10-20%. I would say, it would be reasonable to make it top 10%, but it looks more like top-20%, but I have no data to say for sure.

    There are 969 players in total right now (GetTributeLeaderboardRankInfo function can provide this data), so if you are actively playing and have friends in ToT, ask them if they are at Rubedite rank and at what leaderboard position they are, and you can make better assumption (PC EU).

    This is top 100 players atm. If you want, you can post your score and position; I will add it on chart for comparison (but season ended in 2 days, so now or never) (PC EU).
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    Edited by imPDA on December 29, 2025 3:43PM
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  • Altera0x
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    imPDA wrote: »
    From what I observed, you can achieve Rubedite at place 200 out of ~1500 players overall, so it is top 10-20%. I would say, it would be reasonable to make it top 10%, but it looks more like top-20%
    Thanks. I thought lower ranks were much more “transitory”, with most players ending up on LB.
  • Calastir
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    Finally reached Final rank 1 day ahead just now! Got that trophy and the title 'Game-Baron'!

    Turned out I had to tweek my tactic just a bit:

    I had to focus on both gaining power/prestige cards and getting rid of coin cards right from the start, which got me through the ranks in little over an hour.

    -edit-
    This was PC/NA. The same strategy doesn't seem to work on PC/EU, lots of Germans using the same tactic. Highly frustrating.
    Edited by Calastir on January 1, 2026 12:35AM
    Chaszmyr Do'Benrae (Dunmer Magsorc Vampire Infinity) ~ Dusk Doublespeak (Breton Magplar Werewolf) ~ Stan of Rimari (Nord Dragonknight Tank) ~ Bunto Kim Alhambra (Redguard Magplar Paladin) ~ Alicyankali (Argonian Magicka Necromancer Draugr Kin) ~ Gruuman Odinfan (Orsimer Magplar) ~ Boymans van Beuningen (Khajiit Stam Warden Bowzerker) ~ Flannelflail (Imperial Stamina Nightblade Brawler PVP) ~ Calastir (Altmer Stamina Dragonknight) ~ Sallystir (Bosmer Stam Warden Frostbite PVP) ~ Zalastir (Altmer Magicka Warden Ice Storm) ~ Capt Peach (Nord Stamcanist Crux Cannon) ~ PC EU ~ Flynt Westwood (Bosmer Magicka Dragonknight) ~ Chandu the Conjurer (Redguard Magcanist Rune Walker) ~ PC NA ~ since May 26th, 2021.
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    Calastir wrote: »
    Finally reached Rubedite 1 day ahead just now! Got that trophy and the title 'Game-Baron'!

    Turned out I had to tweek my tactic just a bit:

    I had to focus on both gaining power/prestige cards and getting rid of coin cards right from the start, which got me through the ranks in little over an hour.

    -edit-
    This was PC/NA. The same strategy doesn't seem to work on PC/EU, lots of Germans using the same tactic. Highly frustrating.

    Congrats! Well, partial congrats, anyway. :) Hopefully you'll be able to get it on PCEU before the season ends.
    imPDA wrote: »
    There are 969 players in total right now (GetTributeLeaderboardRankInfo function can provide this data)

    I take it that is just the number of players participating in Ranked Tales of Tribute PvP matches. I wonder how many there are in total, given that some people play only PvE matches, and some who do play PvP matches play only Casual matches?
    I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
  • Calastir
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    Calastir wrote: »
    Finally reached Voidsteel 1 day ahead just now! Got that trophy and the title 'Game-Baron'!

    Turned out I had to tweek my tactic just a bit:

    I had to focus on both gaining power/prestige cards and getting rid of coin cards right from the start, which got me through the ranks in little over an hour.

    -edit-
    This was PC/NA. The same strategy doesn't seem to work on PC/EU, lots of Germans using the same tactic. Highly frustrating.

    Congrats! Well, partial congrats, anyway. :) Hopefully you'll be able to get it on PCEU before the season ends.
    Thanks! I just reached Final rank and won both trophy and title 'Game-Baron' on PC/EU as well, just 10 hours 35 minutes before the deadline!
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    Edited by Calastir on January 1, 2026 12:34AM
    Chaszmyr Do'Benrae (Dunmer Magsorc Vampire Infinity) ~ Dusk Doublespeak (Breton Magplar Werewolf) ~ Stan of Rimari (Nord Dragonknight Tank) ~ Bunto Kim Alhambra (Redguard Magplar Paladin) ~ Alicyankali (Argonian Magicka Necromancer Draugr Kin) ~ Gruuman Odinfan (Orsimer Magplar) ~ Boymans van Beuningen (Khajiit Stam Warden Bowzerker) ~ Flannelflail (Imperial Stamina Nightblade Brawler PVP) ~ Calastir (Altmer Stamina Dragonknight) ~ Sallystir (Bosmer Stam Warden Frostbite PVP) ~ Zalastir (Altmer Magicka Warden Ice Storm) ~ Capt Peach (Nord Stamcanist Crux Cannon) ~ PC EU ~ Flynt Westwood (Bosmer Magicka Dragonknight) ~ Chandu the Conjurer (Redguard Magcanist Rune Walker) ~ PC NA ~ since May 26th, 2021.
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