In Combat Fix : Battlegrounds

xiZeroPointix

When you're getting wiped in the Battle Grounds 4v4 mode (which is horrible if you have ever played it, horrible content) you cannot switch gear due to constantly being in combat. Especially when you are trying out different sets. When you spawn onto the platform you are in combat, then jump down to the 4 players waiting at spawn point, you get hammered in 3 seconds. You spawn back to said platform and are stuck in combat, preventing you from being able to change anything to adapt to the fight. You aren't allowed to change skills, slot poisons, change set pieces nothing....NOTHING. If you happen to try to wait to get out of combat, you are then teleported down to the 4 people waiting to nuke your health bar. This is by far the worst change to BG's ever made. I wonder if anyone there actually plays the game they make.

Moonspawn

@xiZeroPointix There are four main reasons two-sided BGs are so much harder to balance when compared to 4v4v4. Do you think you can help solve any of these critical flaws?

Oblivion_Protocol

I hate to be the one to say it, but ESO PvP is not a ‘rock, paper, scissors’ type of combat situation. If you’re getting absolutely clapped in a BG, changing your gear isn’t going to solve anything. I’m more concerned about the ‘stuck in combat’ bug in Cyro than here, frankly.

MincVinyl

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

I hate to be the one to say it, but ESO PvP is not a ‘rock, paper, scissors’ type of combat situation. If you’re getting absolutely clapped in a BG, changing your gear isn’t going to solve anything. I’m more concerned about the ‘stuck in combat’ bug in Cyro than here, frankly.

The stuck in combat "bug" wont ever be solved quickly as it likely has many many causes. Likely there are a ton of background unnamed effects getting stuck on our characters which have accidental loops in their timer part of the code. For example when you see any skill in your character buff page followed by 63453789346s left on the buff. Imagine there are probably another hundred unnamed buffs we don't see and any of those could have issues.

They could simply gut current in combat system and do a basic after casting a skill on an enemy you enter combat for a minute. Then do a blanket type fix or backup system where after 15s of taking no direct damage you would purge all effects and exit combat, maybe after 10s at of full health. Its dummy, but functional and has less chance of breaking.

ADawg

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

I hate to be the one to say it, but ESO PvP is not a ‘rock, paper, scissors’ type of combat situation. If you’re getting absolutely clapped in a BG, changing your gear isn’t going to solve anything. I’m more concerned about the ‘stuck in combat’ bug in Cyro than here, frankly.

Oh how right you are!

Its not Rock [TANK], Paper [Healer], scissors [DPS]. Its AC-130 Gunship vs rock+paper+scissors.

Oh its because of SKILL. Skill in any MMO is basically run away and abuse LOS until ultimates are ready, turn around ,melt melt melt, repeat cooldowns.

The stun/snare system is worthless with CC immunity, CP, immune pots, etc etc. There's no counters to anything that last more than 3-4 seconds. Some players break free so ridiculously fast its insane and they never run out of resources.

Thumbless_Bot

xiZeroPointix wrote: »

When you're getting wiped in the Battle Grounds 4v4 mode (which is horrible if you have ever played it, horrible content) you cannot switch gear due to constantly being in combat. Especially when you are trying out different sets. When you spawn onto the platform you are in combat, then jump down to the 4 players waiting at spawn point, you get hammered in 3 seconds. You spawn back to said platform and are stuck in combat, preventing you from being able to change anything to adapt to the fight. You aren't allowed to change skills, slot poisons, change set pieces nothing....NOTHING. If you happen to try to wait to get out of combat, you are then teleported down to the 4 people waiting to nuke your health bar. This is by far the worst change to BG's ever made. I wonder if anyone there actually plays the game they make.

By design.

That or money. even the most incredibly skilled and amazing devopment staff can be pushed too hard. Push so hard by suits to get the release GA that its amazing the battlegrounds works as well as they do, flaws and all.

It's one or the other. Im guessing it's the second one.

File this one under QOL enhancement from a Change advisory perspective, meaning its on like page 12 in terms of prioritization with a ticket labeled BattleGround JIRA 1092233456. Nothing will ever happen.