User Tales of Tribute

cagle0614

I just played this user in tales of tribute.
Grandmaster Delmene Hlaalu
Rajhin, the Purring Liar
The Druid King
Red Eagle, King of the Reach(I think)
I told this player a few hands in I was reporting them.
Initially we got the exact same cards.
However this player was grabbing cards at literal WARP speed.
There is no way I could keep track of what they were grabbing short of looking at the draw pile or cool down pile.
I am specifically placing this name here for others to watch for the account and see what I am talking about.

If this player was not using some form of AI then the player was not a real player and was actual AI.
It is physically impossible to grab the cards that quickly and have over thirty gold in almost each hand and do it in under a minute leaving thirty seconds to spare every single hand.

Aislinna

tsk tsk, naming and shaming will get you in trouble here on the forums.

I recommend you asterisk out the user name before the moderators flag you down.

SeaGtGruff

Yeah, I would report them if you feel there's a legitimate reason to, but naming and shaming them in the forums is not the way to go and could just get you in trouble. It would be best for you to edit the title of your thread ASAP to remove their name.

Edited to add:

People who play ToT a lot will eventually become so familiar with all of the cards in each patron's deck that they will know which cards they want to buy as soon as they're dealt, so while you're making your move they are just waiting for you to hurry up and finish your turn so they can snatch up the cards they want to buy.

Also, my previous computer that I played ESO on was an all-in-one that had a touch screen, and although I didn't use the touch screen there were times when I brushed my hand against it while playing ESO and it acted like I was moving the mouse, so I think it should be possible to do at least a few things in the game using a touch screen instead of a mouse/keyboard or a game controller. And one of the things that a touch screen might function well with is ToT or other card games, where you might be able to quickly select the cards you want to buy by tapping on them with your fingers on the screen instead of having to move your mouse around. So just because they were able to select a bunch of cards at what seemed like an impossible speed doesn't necessarily mean they were doing anything suspicious or "bad."

cagle0614

If the moderates choose to punish me for naming another player in the game who if they were an actual player and were not an AI or a player using say scripts of tribute.

Ill take the hit
Also kinda funny if I mention the name of another player who helped me out and was beneficial then that would be perfectly fine.
If however I raise a legitimate concern and name a player I am doing something wrong.

I would also ask so you are saying if I finished the game last night.
I went into zone chat and said that other players should watch for this name specifically then I would be getting myself into trouble?

Which again if I had a player who was very helpful and I used that name then that would be perfectly fine.
As a community that is suppose to help each other the logic fails unequivocally.

I build my own pc's and have since I was 16 years old.
What I watched occur I do not care if you were using a touch screen.
Only a select few humans on the planet could take cards and finish their hand in under 1 minute leaving 30 seconds to spare.
I do recognize that you can grab and be done relatively quick as I have done this when playing against the so called Expert NPC on a single hand or two.
However for someone to do it consistently in every single hand

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I do not care how long you've played or how good you are.
You will make mistakes ---- again only select few could do it consistently and not make mistakes at all.
Several others have on posts commented and said they see and agree and some have even referenced scripts of tribute.

valenwood_vegan

"Naming and shaming" other players is against the forum rules, that's what people are trying to warn you about - they are just trying to help so you don't get in trouble. Players who are believed to have violated the ToS should be reported through the reporting system, not on the forums. Sorry you're having such a terrible time with ToT - ZoS has not announced any near term plans to make any changes to it. Cheers.

SeaGtGruff

cagle0614 wrote: »

Only a select few humans on the planet could take cards and finish their hand in under 1 minute leaving 30 seconds to spare.

Aside from the fact that people have multiple fingers on each hand and could easily buy multiple cards lickety-split by tapping on a touch screen with multiple fingers, and aside from the fact that people who play Tales of Tribute a lot usually plan out their moves ahead of time while you are taking your turn and are just waiting impatiently for you to finish so they can make their moves, you seem to have an awfully low expectation of what human beings are capable of. "A select few?" How many humans are you basing your assessment on? There are reportedly over 8 billion human beings living on the planet, so I'd think it would be very difficult to get an accurate estimate of how many humans are capable of something in particular based on a very tiny sampling of them-- and even if you had sampled 1000 humans, that's only about 0.00000122% of everyone, which doesn't seem like a very good sample size for trying to extract a statistically-reliable conclusion.

As for the naming-and-shaming rule, I tend to agree that there ought to be some way to warn other players about a confirmed "bad actor" in their midst. But that bit about "confirmed" is very difficult to prove, and a lot of players are very quick to claim that person XYZ must be using a cheat of some kind because they did such-and-such, only to have other players jump in and point out that whatever XYZ had done is perfectly doable without resorting to a cheat of some kind. And then there could be players who want to accuse other players of some sort of wrong-doing purely out of spite or a malicious desire to harass the accused. So to help protect players from each other, naming-and-shaming is not allowed.

Naming-and-praising is not the same at all, because the player being praised is not being accused, harassed, or attacked.