What's wrong with matchmaking?

PureeEvil

I've always defended 4x4, but now it's a disaster with matchmaking and increased damage. All evening, I've had 0 teams. absolute ballast. It's impossible to keep my cool and not break your snobbish rules with such a team composition.
ZOS, how about reducing 4x4 to 3x3 or even better, 2x2? It's almost impossible to withstand the focus of 4 players. And I'm getting nothing but noobs in my team. These are constant 1vs4 battles. You should seriously consider reducing the number of participants in competitive battles.

albertberku

It was hilarious for me today, wanted to level a skill (sorc mines) fast with xp scrolls and daily xp from BGs. I did 4 BGs, 3 of them were 1v4 where i tried to survive streaking around and dropping mines in corners in the new small maps. Luckily almost no one slotted streak in the opponent. My personal goal was to getting to the timeout without opponent gets the needed kill count. One of them i was really close, they killed me 8 seconds left and got to 500 points. But the games were literally 1v4, because after got killed couple times my teammates didnt respawn. I also forgot to get in Offline Mode and got a hate whisper from the opponent telling me i am so bad, i cant get a kill, can only escape. At the end i was able to win 1 BG and call it a day only because it was Dominion and there were just too many players in the opponent, that were simply going after kills, chasing for too long time. Was a surreal experience for sure, 10/10 will play again.

MincMincMinc

PureeEvil wrote: »

I've always defended 4x4, but now it's a disaster with matchmaking and increased damage. All evening, I've had 0 teams. absolute ballast. It's impossible to keep my cool and not break your snobbish rules with such a team composition.
ZOS, how about reducing 4x4 to 3x3 or even better, 2x2? It's almost impossible to withstand the focus of 4 players. And I'm getting nothing but noobs in my team. These are constant 1vs4 battles. You should seriously consider reducing the number of participants in competitive battles.

The issue is outlined in the other ignored 20+ bg threads. THE MAIN PROBLEM IS MMR RESETS........the second problem is that MMR IS BASED ON OBJECTIVES AND LEADER BOARD SCORE and not representative of player skill.

BGs need an account wide mmr system based on K/D/A which does not reset. Accounts should also save your last healing value and then balance teams based on KDA and healing to ensure matches are not one sided.

PureeEvil

albertberku wrote: »

It was hilarious for me today, wanted to level a skill (sorc mines) fast with xp scrolls and daily xp from BGs. I did 4 BGs, 3 of them were 1v4 where i tried to survive streaking around and dropping mines in corners in the new small maps. Luckily almost no one slotted streak in the opponent. My personal goal was to getting to the timeout without opponent gets the needed kill count. One of them i was really close, they killed me 8 seconds left and got to 500 points. But the games were literally 1v4, because after got killed couple times my teammates didnt respawn. I also forgot to get in Offline Mode and got a hate whisper from the opponent telling me i am so bad, i cant get a kill, can only escape. At the end i was able to win 1 BG and call it a day only because it was Dominion and there were just too many players in the opponent, that were simply going after kills, chasing for too long time. Was a surreal experience for sure, 10/10 will play again.

going to 4x4 to pump skill is of course interesting... I don't even know what to tell you.

PureeEvil

MincMincMinc wrote: »

PureeEvil wrote: »

I've always defended 4x4, but now it's a disaster with matchmaking and increased damage. All evening, I've had 0 teams. absolute ballast. It's impossible to keep my cool and not break your snobbish rules with such a team composition.
ZOS, how about reducing 4x4 to 3x3 or even better, 2x2? It's almost impossible to withstand the focus of 4 players. And I'm getting nothing but noobs in my team. These are constant 1vs4 battles. You should seriously consider reducing the number of participants in competitive battles.

The issue is outlined in the other ignored 20+ bg threads. THE MAIN PROBLEM IS MMR RESETS........the second problem is that MMR IS BASED ON OBJECTIVES AND LEADER BOARD SCORE and not representative of player skill.

BGs need an account wide mmr system based on K/D/A which does not reset. Accounts should also save your last healing value and then balance teams based on KDA and healing to ensure matches are not one sided.

you play on sorcy how i remember. what sorc can know?

well they change mmr and what? damage from 4 focus will be less? topik about x4 focus after subclass. i know its dificalt too sorcy, but you can try understand. dont really think sorcy can understand but can try. mmr fix not realy help.

Urzigurumash

As a 4v4 Solo Main I agree that something should be done about this, but OP why do you think MMR isn't it?

People are going to be trying new things now, and you can't really predict how a new idea would work on a build without playing. Who wants to level a line to 50 to realize it doesnt work. So I get going into BGs to pump skills on what turns out to be a bad idea.

But yeah totally agreed the increased damage has made the problem worse. And also 2v2 sounds awesome to me.

PureeEvil

Urzigurumash wrote: »

As a 4v4 Solo Main I agree that something should be done about this, but OP why do you think MMR isn't it?

People are going to be trying new things now, and you can't really predict how a new idea would work on a build without playing. Who wants to level a line to 50 to realize it doesnt work. So I get going into BGs to pump skills on what turns out to be a bad idea.

But yeah totally agreed the increased damage has made the problem worse. And also 2v2 sounds awesome to me.

it takes about an hour to level up to 50. This is with 100% ambrosia and leveling sets. I get now 580cp and not exp only 2 warden line, one from temp, one from arc, one from sorc. all els in 50. alikr mostley fast for that just use aoe dot from soul magik.

mmr fix mabe go work mabe not we dont know but 2x2 works in 100%
for mmr fix works you need playrs who can play and like play on bg. so...

PureeEvil

but realy zos if you ban me to estarday swearing and challenging to duel dude who focus me 4vs1 and then teabaging, I won't buy another copy of the game. I didn't have time to make a video this time with hes teabaging, and I won't be able to defend myself in an appeal. But this goes too far. If you want to ban someone for BG, you should first fix it. how can i should follow your snobbish rules of conduct when someone focuses you 4v1, make tiabegging, and then refuses to duel.

you don't even explain to new and pve players that 4x4 is not for fun, not for daily quests, or for leveling. Make a role-playing text explaining that if you're not ready, don't join 4x4

PureeEvil

Limiting critical damage from 125% to 75% with Battle Spirit could also solve the problem. and mabe malakat ring rise from Boetia ***.

MincMincMinc

PureeEvil wrote: »

MincMincMinc wrote: »

PureeEvil wrote: »

I've always defended 4x4, but now it's a disaster with matchmaking and increased damage. All evening, I've had 0 teams. absolute ballast. It's impossible to keep my cool and not break your snobbish rules with such a team composition.
ZOS, how about reducing 4x4 to 3x3 or even better, 2x2? It's almost impossible to withstand the focus of 4 players. And I'm getting nothing but noobs in my team. These are constant 1vs4 battles. You should seriously consider reducing the number of participants in competitive battles.

The issue is outlined in the other ignored 20+ bg threads. THE MAIN PROBLEM IS MMR RESETS........the second problem is that MMR IS BASED ON OBJECTIVES AND LEADER BOARD SCORE and not representative of player skill.

BGs need an account wide mmr system based on K/D/A which does not reset. Accounts should also save your last healing value and then balance teams based on KDA and healing to ensure matches are not one sided.

you play on sorcy how i remember. what sorc can know?

well they change mmr and what? damage from 4 focus will be less? topik about x4 focus after subclass. i know its dificalt too sorcy, but you can try understand. dont really think sorcy can understand but can try. mmr fix not realy help.

I honestly don't know how to respond to this. I can't even tell if this is supposed to be a personal insult or what?

Your complaint is you get new players on your team vs other stronger teams. Then you seem to think that making a functional mmr system that pairs up evenly matched players together wouldn't help? I don't get your argument.