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Vengeance Campaign Short Q&A Livestream Today @ 1:00 PM ET

ZOS_Kevin
ZOS_Kevin
Community Manager
The Vengeance Campaign returns to Cyrodiil. This time with a few changes.

Tune in for a short Q&A livestream today at 1:00 PM ET at twitch.tv/bethesda get the details on the test and how to participate.
Edited by ZOS_Kevin on June 30, 2025 2:36PM
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  • colossalvoids
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    Thanks for the heads up.
  • ZOS_Kevin
    ZOS_Kevin
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    Here is the vod of the Pre-Vengeance 2 LiveStream!
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  • tsaescishoeshiner
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    Thanks for the Q&A! Even announced last-minute, the recap was interesting to watch.

    Recap from the stream:
    • Vengeance isn't being pitched as the end goal for Cyrodiil because it's so limiting, but it's meant to identify what can improve performance to make Cyrodiil large-scale and smooth again.
    • The upcoming Vengeance test will have new skills (Weapon skills?, Assault, Support) to see if more skills still allow for good performance. No subclassing, still Vengeance classes.
    • Future Vengeance tests will adjust even more--this second test is to add a bit and make sure test #1 wasn't a fluke.
    • The upcoming Vengeance test will be on PC and consoles this time, with an AP bonus.
    • Vengeance will be the only Cyrodiil campaign during the test period to "put as much pressure on the server as possible" to get better data.

    Fun fax:
    • One 5-hour battle from the first Vengeance campaign (Chalman, of course lol) had more people the current normal Cyrodiil cap.
    • Brian Wheeler said that seeing the massive battles during the first Vengeance test was one of the best weeks of his career. He reminisced on the original goal for ESO's Cyrodiil (from 2009!) of massive warfare.
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  • silky_soft
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    I was anti vengeance. But after the blind siding of subclasing without linking it to scribing or antiquities. I'm pro vengeance campaign. Bring on vanilla eso mass battles.
    This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.
  • RaidingTraiding
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    I was open to trying the vengeance campaign, but after playing it last time I really don't ever want to play anything like that again. Also tired of playing guinea pig on a game that's over a decade old.
  • DrGIggles80
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    It's nice they are gonna include the consoles this test. Alot of console players were feeling voiceless in these tests so its appreciated.
  • Dragonclaw1337
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    Thanks for the Q&A! Even announced last-minute, the recap was interesting to watch.

    Recap from the stream:
    • Vengeance isn't being pitched as the end goal for Cyrodiil because it's so limiting, but it's meant to identify what can improve performance to make Cyrodiil large-scale and smooth again.
    • The upcoming Vengeance test will have new skills (Weapon skills?, Assault, Support) to see if more skills still allow for good performance. No subclassing, still Vengeance classes.
    • Future Vengeance tests will adjust even more--this second test is to add a bit and make sure test #1 wasn't a fluke.
    • The upcoming Vengeance test will be on PC and consoles this time, with an AP bonus.
    • Vengeance will be the only Cyrodiil campaign during the test period to "put as much pressure on the server as possible" to get better data.

    Fun fax:
    • One 5-hour battle from the first Vengeance campaign (Chalman, of course lol) had more people the current normal Cyrodiil cap.
    • Brian Wheeler said that seeing the massive battles during the first Vengeance test was one of the best weeks of his career. He reminisced on the original goal for ESO's Cyrodiil (from 2009!) of massive warfare.

    Nice summary! The Chalman bit had me laughing. :lol:
    The battle of the Chalamo, the oldest ESO meme! :heart:

    Not that my opinion matters much;
    I enjoyed the Vengeance campaign!

    I am glad that ZOS is getting good data.
    And, that they are sharing it with us, too.

    A change in Cyrodiil rule-sets is nice.
    I think it keeps Cyrodiil combat fresh.
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  • Kelinmiriel
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    @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    One thing that was not addressed in the stream: Last time we were not allowed free changes to our "home" campaign for Vengeance. Will that be fixed this time, please?

    (It does seem to work correctly at the end, when "home" is set to "unassigned".)

    Thank you!
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  • Kelinmiriel
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    Thanks for the Q&A! Even announced last-minute, the recap was interesting to watch.

    Recap from the stream:
    • Vengeance isn't being pitched as the end goal for Cyrodiil because it's so limiting, but it's meant to identify what can improve performance to make Cyrodiil large-scale and smooth again.
    • The upcoming Vengeance test will have new skills (Weapon skills?, Assault, Support) to see if more skills still allow for good performance. No subclassing, still Vengeance classes.
    • Future Vengeance tests will adjust even more--this second test is to add a bit and make sure test #1 wasn't a fluke.
    • The upcoming Vengeance test will be on PC and consoles this time, with an AP bonus.
    • Vengeance will be the only Cyrodiil campaign during the test period to "put as much pressure on the server as possible" to get better data.

    Fun fax:
    • One 5-hour battle from the first Vengeance campaign (Chalman, of course lol) had more people the current normal Cyrodiil cap.
    • Brian Wheeler said that seeing the massive battles during the first Vengeance test was one of the best weeks of his career. He reminisced on the original goal for ESO's Cyrodiil (from 2009!) of massive warfare.

    Thank you for the recap! I watched the stream anyway, since I intended to ask about the "home" campaign problem, and I prefer not to bother anyone with a question that's already been answered. So I did a search first through the forum, and watched the video.

    I'd just like to point out that the Chalman battle that had "more people than the current normal Cyrodiil cap" - I didn't entirely catch the true depth of this from your recap. I thought you meant "more than a Cyrodiil campaign".

    It was more people than the cap of ALL of the normal Cyrodiil campaigns, COMBINED. Just, wow. Five hours, in one battle, and only a couple of brief hiccups.

    Two notes about the upcoming Vengeance campaign:
    • I wish it wasn't during Zeal of Zenithar.
    • It's nice of them to include consoles. Poor console people, so often left out. (Not me; I'm on PC.)
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  • Dojohoda
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    Thank you for the Q&A livestream! I'm looking forward to the Vengeance test!
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