Ease up on Equilibrium Skill Penalties for Subclassings Sake.

Duke_Falcon

I was watching a streamer subclass Sorc for streak, and he kept saying why am I running out of magic so fast. lolol X-D I literally busted out laughing. Streak is hella expensive as a skill and if you hit it twice or God forbid three times on any class without Dark Conversion, that's why you'll be out of magic. So as a man who took up Sorc years ago as a main, and one who quiet enjoys the Streak ability to get out of bad situations quickly, maybe let all the other classes enjoy it too. 8-) Ease up on the Equilibrium skill penalties in the Mages Guild skill line for them.

Oblivion_Protocol

Duke_Falcon wrote: »

I was watching a streamer subclass Sorc for streak, and he kept saying why am I running out of magic so fast. lolol X-D I literally busted out laughing. Streak is hella expensive as a skill and if you hit it twice or God forbid three times on any class without Dark Conversion, that's why you'll be out of magic. So as a man who took up Sorc years ago as a main, and one who quiet enjoys the Streak ability to get out of bad situations quickly, maybe let all the other classes enjoy it too. 8-) Ease up on the Equilibrium skill penalties in the Mages Guild skill line for them.

Absolutely not. You want to be able to literally teleport around the map? You’ve got to pay for it. It’s just that Sorcs have deeper pockets than most. I don’t want a NB going Streak-Streak-Cloak, and then still have enough resources to immediately jump back into a fight without some kind of stop-gap.

Duke_Falcon

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

Duke_Falcon wrote: »

I was watching a streamer subclass Sorc for streak, and he kept saying why am I running out of magic so fast. lolol X-D I literally busted out laughing. Streak is hella expensive as a skill and if you hit it twice or God forbid three times on any class without Dark Conversion, that's why you'll be out of magic. So as a man who took up Sorc years ago as a main, and one who quiet enjoys the Streak ability to get out of bad situations quickly, maybe let all the other classes enjoy it too. 8-) Ease up on the Equilibrium skill penalties in the Mages Guild skill line for them.

Absolutely not. You want to be able to literally teleport around the map? You’ve got to pay for it. It’s just that Sorcs have deeper pockets than most. I don’t want a NB going Streak-Streak-Cloak, and then still have enough resources to immediately jump back into a fight without some kind of stop-gap.

They might be able to do that anyway with their Siphoning Strikes skill in their Siphoning skill line. I think its the only class that will be able to use Streak as effectively as a Sorc, sooooo I'm think why leave everyone else out?

Soarora

For what use were they slotting streak and what penalty are you complaining of? Can't they just use spell symmetry if they're trying to get away in PvP? My PvE tanksorc has no problems with streak sustain, but I'm not spamming it. Thought you're supposed to not be able to spam it for PvP's sake....

Duke_Falcon

Soarora wrote: »

For what use were they slotting streak and what penalty are you complaining of? Can't they just use spell symmetry if they're trying to get away in PvP? My PvE tanksorc has no problems with streak sustain, but I'm not spamming it. Thought you're supposed to not be able to spam it for PvP's sake....

Um.... Yes. I feel like you just made my point?

In PvP your Healing and Shield Strength is already cut by 50% with the Battle Spirit debuff, so an additionl 50% reduction is pretty steep. In PvE like you mentioned, its probably fine.

Soarora

Duke_Falcon wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

For what use were they slotting streak and what penalty are you complaining of? Can't they just use spell symmetry if they're trying to get away in PvP? My PvE tanksorc has no problems with streak sustain, but I'm not spamming it. Thought you're supposed to not be able to spam it for PvP's sake....

Um.... Yes. I feel like you just made my point?

In PvP your Healing and Shield Strength is already cut by 50% with the Battle Spirit debuff, so an additionl 50% reduction is pretty steep. In PvE like you mentioned, its probably fine.

/shrug I don’t know enough about PvP, my questions are earnest not intended to be on the offense.

I see, maybe spell symmetry should be 25% instead?

Vaqual

When the day comes and people are streak-cloak-siphoning, I will just go for a short afk break during those 3 gcds until the player figures out what he wants. Hint: That person will have no incap, no spec bow, no curse, no cweap and no fun.

Duke_Falcon

Vaqual wrote: »

When the day comes and people are streak-cloak-siphoning, I will just go for a short afk break during those 3 gcds until the player figures out what he wants. Hint: That person will have no incap, no spec bow, no curse, no cweap and no fun.

You make a good point. ...but some idiot is going to do that just so they can run around a keep forever with people chasing them. lol

As a Sorc they'd have Haunting Curse, Mages Wrath, Streak and Crushing Shock and Soul Tether.

As a Nightblade I think I'd give up the the Shadow skill line for the Storm Calling so I could do Mages Wrath into Grim Focus into Streak and Soul Tether, follow up with another Mages Wrath if necessary. idk for sure never really played Nightblade, but thee ole BladeSorc is starting to sound pretty interesting in pvp.

El_Borracho

Duke_Falcon wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

When the day comes and people are streak-cloak-siphoning, I will just go for a short afk break during those 3 gcds until the player figures out what he wants. Hint: That person will have no incap, no spec bow, no curse, no cweap and no fun.

You make a good point. ...but some idiot is going to do that just so they can run around a keep forever with people chasing them. lol

Because sorcs don't do that now...

Duke_Falcon

I'm dead serious about these Equilibrium changes though because there are some classes that even if they want to won't be able to run Streak due to the escalating cost. Nightblade is the only class I think that could pull it off w/ Siphoning Strikes. Nightblade seriously needs to be dialed down a bit.

YandereGirlfriend

I think the issue is more Siphon being OP.

kurbbie_s

Duke_Falcon wrote: »

I'm dead serious about these Equilibrium changes though because there are some classes that even if they want to won't be able to run Streak due to the escalating cost. Nightblade is the only class I think that could pull it off w/ Siphoning Strikes. Nightblade seriously needs to be dialed down a bit.

no, ZOS dont do this.

Duke_Falcon

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I think the issue is more Siphon being OP.

I'm seriously thinking about giving up the Dark Magic Skill line for the Siphoning Skill line on my Mag Sorc. Gonna need more Max Mag and passive heals if they take away the heal on Hardened Ward.

Sluggy

The reason Equilibrium is so penalized may or may not have to to with some tanking activies myself and others did back in the early days of the game >_> <_<

To be fair it was ridiculous. The offtank was a better 'healer' than the healers.