beyond Terrible balancing in Cyrodiil.

RaikaNA

This was the pop stats from last night at around midnight.




How on earth can this happen?

Joy_Division

Looks like some EP with a lot of friends wanted the emperor achievement.

I'm certainly not staying up that late for ESO's current version of cyrodiil. I imagine I'm not the only one.

RaikaNA

Joy_Division wrote: »

Looks like some EP with a lot of friends wanted the emperor achievement.

I'm certainly not staying up that late for ESO's current version of cyrodiil. I imagine I'm not the only one.

It's shameful how easy it is to become Emperor these days. ZOS should do away with this, as it's no longer meaningful.

Markytous

Oh look! 60-120 players in Grey Host! Sure wish we could get that pop cap to 600 again... Without lagging!

RaikaNA

Markytous wrote: »

Oh look! 60-120 players in Grey Host! Sure wish we could get that pop cap to 600 again... Without lagging!

You must sacrifice stuff to play without lag. Vengeance is the unfortunate proof of this.

Thumbless_Bot

Vengeance is a great idea but in its current state it is like a shell of a car; looks great and seats 7, but won't take you anywhere. Zos needs to add back the engine, wheels, seats etc., without impacting performance before it will be worthwhile.

I think they can do it, they just need time.

Theignson

It’s always been this way. The faction with the highest number of average population over 30 days usually wins

Heren

RaikaNA wrote: »

How on earth can this happen?

Why would you go somewhere where you will most likely lose, when you can go somewhere where you will apparently win ? In a way, it's just common sense - I really think the 'challenge' part of cyrodiil PvP is vastly exagerated, the vast majority of people going into Cyrodiil just want to steamroll other people, one way or another, be it by going to a campaign where your faction is overwhelming or at least in a good spot against the other two, by participating as a highly organized near unkillable group ( I don't think you play in a ball group because you're looking for challenging encounters ), by playing some cheesy thing that don't rely on number to kill things ( ganker and the like ).

The choice then become obvious - if you're an average pvp player, why in oblivion would you go in a campaign where your faction is underrepresented ? If you're not prepared to take advantage of this situation, it make no sense, and it make even less sense when there is a campaign where your faction is the dominant one.

it's just common sense, really. And appart from closing all campaigns except Gray Host, it will still be prone to happen.

Markytous

Heren wrote: »

RaikaNA wrote: »

How on earth can this happen?

Why would you go somewhere where you will most likely lose, when you can go somewhere where you will apparently win ? In a way, it's just common sense - I really think the 'challenge' part of cyrodiil PvP is vastly exagerated, the vast majority of people going into Cyrodiil just want to steamroll other people, one way or another, be it by going to a campaign where your faction is overwhelming or at least in a good spot against the other two, by participating as a highly organized near unkillable group ( I don't think you play in a ball group because you're looking for challenging encounters ), by playing some cheesy thing that don't rely on number to kill things ( ganker and the like ).

The choice then become obvious - if you're an average pvp player, why in oblivion would you go in a campaign where your faction is underrepresented ? If you're not prepared to take advantage of this situation, it make no sense, and it make even less sense when there is a campaign where your faction is the dominant one.

it's just common sense, really. And appart from closing all campaigns except Gray Host, it will still be prone to happen.

Sad how some would rather lag and desync like crazy just to "steamroll" instead of support the improvement of the entire system. I personally always saw ESO PVP as a means of respecting all the opponents' agency - where every player has a chance of defeating you. I was a Ravenwatch non-CP player strictly even before, as the "Viper Velis" of each patch cycle were tiresome and ripped player agency out of the victims" hands. Outplaying the opponent through proper blocks, stuns and punishes feels more satisfying to me than just wearing BIS and pressing keys lol But ehhh not everyone cares about learning the game. I don't want to see this game lose its opportunity to improve as a whole over the sensational "Pro PVP Player" group (who somehow can't play without procs). I am the one who sees my faction at a backfoot and says "Lets make something happen". Well, I used to be anyways. Been running Imperial City for a more intimate experience, as the lag and proc exploitation in Grey Host never appealed. I was hoping 8v8 BGs would function as a Ballgroup containment box but nope! Now that Ravenwatch is proc reactivated I don't really Cyrodiil anymore. Needs fixing.