IM Not Beta Tester

Gankform · March 24

IM Not Beta Tester...i pay ESO+ to farm sets, build and play PVP... IM PVP PLAYER..Give me Back the old PVP Campaign at keep this for ur self!!! you removed the main Campaing without warning. Very nice move!!!

sans-culottes · March 24

Gankform wrote: »

IM Not Beta Tester...i pay ESO+ to farm sets, build and play PVP... IM PVP PLAYER..Give me Back the old PVP Campaign at keep this for ur self!!! you removed the main Campaing without warning. Very nice move!!!

They said many times that this weeklong Vengeance test was going to happen.

Sidewaves89 · March 24

Without warning? Where have you been for the last 2 months?

Gankform · March 24

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Without warning? Where have you been for the last 2 months?

Send me the post that says they will remove the Main Campaign

MincMincMinc · March 24

Uhh its basically the only thing they covered this last pts cycle, and articles, and dev livestreams.

Imagine claiming to be a pvp player and complaining that they are trying to fix pvp.

DUTCH_REAPER · March 24

For a PVP player you sure didn’t pay attention to the announcements huh? It’s ok. Cyro is crazy fun with the testing ZOS is doing.

DUTCH_REAPER · March 24

Zos said it and here is an article as well

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/elder-scrolls-onlines-longest-running-issue-is-the-target-of-a-new-play-test-but-its-just-a-first-step/1100-6530226/

Gankform · March 24

GAMESPOT LOL... after 11000 hours in-game 2 last words only and goodbye "experimental animals"

MincMincMinc · March 24

Gankform wrote: »

GAMESPOT LOL... after 11000 hours in-game 2 last words only and goodbye "experimental animals"

Dude they literally have a news section on the elder scrolls online website. You are getting upset that you didn't read any form of media and then surprised when you didn't know the news.
- it was covered by every pvp eso content creator including zos themselves several times
- it was on TESO website
- It was the only thing on pts

Again silly to complain about the most important pvp event/release that has happened in a decade.

KiltMaster · March 24

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/674932/cyrodiil-champions-faq

DUTCH_REAPER · March 24

Gankform wrote: »

GAMESPOT LOL... after 11000 hours in-game 2 last words only and goodbye "experimental animals"

I don’t understand why you’re angry? Or sarcastic? It’s a test. That’s all. They want to make Cyro better for players. Don’t you want to help with that?

Theignson · March 24

Sounds like someone misses their RoA and VD proc sets

Yes this has been discussed for months...all the info is out there...

Enjoy something new for a week, is what I'd suggest.

malistorr · March 24

Yes the information has been out there for a long time and is common knowledge among everyone I play with in ESO PVP. You're getting mad at the developer because you choose not to pay attention to what is going on with the game.

dark_hunterxmg · March 25

Take the week off? Maybe go to Imperial City instead?

Thumbless_Bot · March 25

I get your point. Is eso+free for a week for those who mostly do cyro?

Sidewaves89 · March 25

Gankform wrote: »

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Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Without warning? Where have you been for the last 2 months?

Send me the post that says they will remove the Main Campaign

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/674932/cyrodiil-champions-faq

I mean ZOS often do something which they don't previously mention, but this time it's on you.

rey2576 · March 25

Even if they did give us warning, replacing all campaigns with this watered down garbage is a Richard Relocation.

NoSoup · March 25

lol I think the only people really complaining about this test are the players that that have become so use to absuing their broken builds not being able to Troll anymore. It was so good seeing no 1 v 10s fighting it out for 15 minutes or a single NB taking out entire groups.....

ItsNotLiving · March 26

NoSoup wrote: »

lol I think the only people really complaining about this test are the players that that have become so use to absuing their broken builds not being able to Troll anymore. It was so good seeing no 1 v 10s fighting it out for 15 minutes or a single NB taking out entire groups.....

“Broken Builds” like every major PvP player doesn’t post their exact build on YouTube. Better yet every single person is running rallying cry and 1 of like 3 front bar sets. The floor hitting the ceiling in a 10 year MMO is super toxic.

Gankform · March 26

NoSoup wrote: »

lol I think the only people really complaining about this test are the players that that have become so use to absuing their broken builds not being able to Troll anymore. It was so good seeing no 1 v 10s fighting it out for 15 minutes or a single NB taking out entire groups.....

ofc and a single NB can take out full grp because this is his job...but as i can see u probably don't understand what we're playing and why they're putting on all these very nice sets...

Vrienda · March 26

Praying they extend this event indefinately tbh. It's way more fun.

CatoUnchained · March 26

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

For a PVP player you sure didn’t pay attention to the announcements huh? It’s ok. Cyro is crazy fun with the testing ZOS is doing.

I beg to differ. This template only version is not going to cut it. People will be done with it within a week, even those that say they love it now. No diversity and no skill gap possible for the most part so what's the point? As it is now someone who's never created a build or played PvP are just as strong as those of us who have over 20k hours into the game.

MorallyBipolar · March 26

NoSoup wrote: »

lol I think the only people really complaining about this test are the players that that have become so use to absuing their broken builds not being able to Troll anymore. It was so good seeing no 1 v 10s fighting it out for 15 minutes or a single NB taking out entire groups.....

Now it's zerg v. zerg with no single player having any ability to make a difference in the fight. Only the size of your zerg matters now. This is not good in any way.

robertlabrie · March 27

Agree with OP this should have been optional. Agree with respondents that many warnings were given. ZOS had to make it mandatory because this mode is so unappealing that they wouldn't have had enough players to load test the servers unless they made it the only option. The only people celebrating this are the ones that have wanted pure death match for 10 years while IC sat empty and BG queues were long because most people don't actually want that.

MincMincMinc · March 27

robertlabrie wrote: »

Agree with OP this should have been optional. Agree with respondents that many warnings were given. ZOS had to make it mandatory because this mode is so unappealing that they wouldn't have had enough players to load test the servers unless they made it the only option. The only people celebrating this are the ones that have wanted pure death match for 10 years while IC sat empty and BG queues were long because most people don't actually want that.

You say it is unappealing, but vengeance has nearly 5x the population that the previous several MyM events had. I would say it was certainly not "unappealing" especially since they are hitting 250 que with 5x the pop midweek every day.

People want one thing in a combat focused game......good combat. Live pvp has too much "accessibility" where player input means so little compared to what sets, procs, and effects you slot, with the kicker that on top of that all the bloat that is complained about is now proven to be lagging the server.

huskandhunger · March 27

MincMincMinc wrote: »

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robertlabrie wrote: »

Agree with OP this should have been optional. Agree with respondents that many warnings were given. ZOS had to make it mandatory because this mode is so unappealing that they wouldn't have had enough players to load test the servers unless they made it the only option. The only people celebrating this are the ones that have wanted pure death match for 10 years while IC sat empty and BG queues were long because most people don't actually want that.

You say it is unappealing, but vengeance has nearly 5x the population that the previous several MyM events had. I would say it was certainly not "unappealing" especially since they are hitting 250 que with 5x the pop midweek every day.

People want one thing in a combat focused game......good combat. Live pvp has too much "accessibility" where player input means so little compared to what sets, procs, and effects you slot, with the kicker that on top of that all the bloat that is complained about is now proven to be lagging the server.

This 💯 @ZOS_MattFiror this is the best decision y'all have ever made in the history of ESO, it's so much fun to play than the live version of Cyro 😍

WuffyCerulei · March 27

I’m still surprised one would be mad about a 1-week test campaign that is solely for gathering data on Cyrodiil. Heck, they even gave us incentives to join with double AP/XP and an easy Golden Pursuit. It’s exactly ONE week. Yall will be okay.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · March 27

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

I’m still surprised one would be mad about a 1-week test campaign that is solely for gathering data on Cyrodiil. Heck, they even gave us incentives to join with double AP/XP and an easy Golden Pursuit. It’s exactly ONE week. Yall will be okay.

Those who have played ESO for a long time remember the multiple weeks of similar tests and their outcomes, that's why they are frustrated. Some people just don't like it (I suspect the OP is one of those).

MincMincMinc · March 27

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

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WuffyCerulei wrote: »

I’m still surprised one would be mad about a 1-week test campaign that is solely for gathering data on Cyrodiil. Heck, they even gave us incentives to join with double AP/XP and an easy Golden Pursuit. It’s exactly ONE week. Yall will be okay.

Those who have played ESO for a long time remember the multiple weeks of similar tests and their outcomes, that's why they are frustrated. Some people just don't like it (I suspect the OP is one of those).

nah the OP was just a rage bait for uninformed players. Whether intentional or not.

baguette_poolish · March 27

CatoUnchained wrote: »

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DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

For a PVP player you sure didn’t pay attention to the announcements huh? It’s ok. Cyro is crazy fun with the testing ZOS is doing.

I beg to differ. This template only version is not going to cut it. People will be done with it within a week, even those that say they love it now. No diversity and no skill gap possible for the most part so what's the point? As it is now someone who's never created a build or played PvP are just as strong as those of us who have over 20k hours into the game.

So, in the same sentence you say... "No skill gap possible" and "someone who's never created a build or played PvP are just as strong as those of us who have over 20k hours into the game" so it isn't about skill and the understanding of what abilities do and more about running what is broken

eso doesn't have a skill gap, it has a gear gap, there are things that work and setups that don't.

robertlabrie · March 27

MincMincMinc wrote: »

You say it is unappealing, but vengeance has nearly 5x the population that the previous several MyM events had.

Turn Greyhost and Blackreach back on, if those campaigns are dead and everyone is in Vengeance lemming Cyrodiil then that's what the people want. Until then, my point is 100% valid.

MincMincMinc wrote: »

People want one thing in a combat focused game......good combat. Live pvp has too much "accessibility" where player input means so little compared to what sets, procs, and effects you slot, with the kicker that on top of that all the bloat that is complained about is now proven to be lagging the server.

We have Imperial City: No siege, great open areas to fight in, and no players. We have battlegrounds: fast re-spawns, tight objective based gameplay in closed quarters - and 15 minute queues.

What you want is quake champions, and there is already a game for that. Easy answer here is enable both modes and see what people gravitate towards.