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PvP deserter penalty
abkam
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30 minutes only? Why? Please change this to 3 years or 300. Please!
And I'm serious. Every time I enter PvP in this game, all I wish for is a way to never return here again. So, change this… 300 years seems fair enough to me. Please.
Edited by abkam on March 12, 2025 3:49PM And I'm serious. Every time I enter PvP in this game, all I wish for is a way to never return here again. So, change this… 300 years seems fair enough to me. Please.
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RealLoveBVB✭✭✭✭✭
✭30 minutes seems fair for a rage leave, as they can't immediately queue for another match.
Have in mind, that someone can leave due to an urgent real life issue, where a "permanent ban" would not be cool.14 -
DragonRacer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭You've never, ever been disconnected to the main screen of this game while in a BG or a ToT match or dungeon?
I'm jealous.PS5 NA. GM of The PTK's - a free trading guild (CP 500+). Also a werewolf, bites are free when they're available. PSN = DragonRacer139 -
Mr_Friendly✭✭I would like to add that I just had queued back to IC to turn in a quest; BG popped so I accepted, got ported into BG, and then straight out back to IC. I got a deserter penalty.
There are situations that a penalty punishes for situations outside of your control, especially with DCs. I agree people that quit a match can be a pain, but you can't have a high penalty that punishes the unintentional.2 -
Thumbless_Bot✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mr_Friendly wrote: »I would like to add that I just had queued back to IC to turn in a quest; BG popped so I accepted, got ported into BG, and then straight out back to IC. I got a deserter penalty.
There are situations that a penalty punishes for situations outside of your control, especially with DCs. I agree people that quit a match can be a pain, but you can't have a high penalty that punishes the unintentional.
Problems are only solved by fixing the root cause of the issue, not the symptoms. Root cause is balance.
People usually quit matches because they do not want to be there. Make it so people want to be there. This includes balance in matchmaking and balance in classes/sets. Most do not want to be in an 8v8 vs six sorcs or two bots running roa.
Point is, removing the penalty is a band aid. Zos already implements way too many band aids and then permanently ignores the actual problem. The band aids can and usually do make the situation worse. I am against removing the penalty but all for zos fixing the actual problems that cause people to leave bgs
Band aids are a waste of time and money 8n the long run..Edited by Thumbless_Bot on March 12, 2025 6:12PM3 -
valenwood_vegan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yeah let's definitely ban everyone who's ever ragequit, been disconnected, crashed, had a RL issue come up, or otherwise left a BG. Pretty soon there won't be anyone left at all. Might be better to put some work into balancing and making them more enjoyable.
And I'm serious. Every time I enter PvP in this game, all I wish for is a way to never return here again. So, change this… 300 years seems fair enough to me. Please.
OP will be happy to know there's a really easy way to never return to pvp again... Don't queue for it. Lol. GL!Edited by valenwood_vegan on March 12, 2025 6:15PM2 -
Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭30 minutes is perfectly fine.
IMHO PvP can be quite fun once you find a build that works best for your playstyle.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭The screenshot tells me it’s actually OP who was hit by the penalty and this is a failed attempt at sarcasm…4 -
Mr_Friendly✭✭Thumbless_Bot wrote: »Mr_Friendly wrote: »I would like to add that I just had queued back to IC to turn in a quest; BG popped so I accepted, got ported into BG, and then straight out back to IC. I got a deserter penalty.
There are situations that a penalty punishes for situations outside of your control, especially with DCs. I agree people that quit a match can be a pain, but you can't have a high penalty that punishes the unintentional.
Problems are only solved by fixing the root cause of the issue, not the symptoms. Root cause is balance.
People usually quit matches because they do not want to be there. Make it so people want to be there. This includes balance in matchmaking and balance in classes/sets. Most do not want to be in an 8v8 vs six sorcs or two bots running roa.
Point is, removing the penalty is a band aid. Zos already implements way too many band aids and then permanently ignores the actual problem. The band aids can and usually do make the situation worse. I am against removing the penalty but all for zos fixing the actual problems that cause people to leave bgs
Band aids are a waste of time and money 8n the long run..
Well said, and I agree; I was not advocating for removing the penalty, just not in favor of making it "3 years." About 25% of my matches the last two days have had 6/8 sorcs on the opposing team. Balance is certainly in a silly place.
The real concern in neglected balance (or people's love of spawn camping) is a very big detriment to people having a first time experience that they want to go back to and give it another go. The BG population is not very large as it is.Edited by Mr_Friendly on March 12, 2025 7:02PM1 -
abkam✭✭✭The screenshot tells me it’s actually OP who was hit by the penalty and this is a failed attempt at sarcasm…
Why should I post someone else's screenshot? Of course it's me. And why you say "it’s a failed attempt at sarcasm" when I’m being serious? Every time I enter PvP in this game, all I wish for is a way to never have to return. So, change this… 300 years seems fair enough to me. Please.0 -
abkam✭✭✭Grizzbeorn wrote: »
It's not that simple. This screenshot is just one example! If I want to level up my Scribing skills, I don’t have to go into PvP, that’s true. But it’s one of the options available to me. So, I go there, and I absolutely hate it. What I hate the most? To get the script, I don’t just have to do something I despise so much that words can’t even express it, but I also have to win. Participating isn't enough for ZoS. We have to win! Just participating once isn't sufficient; I have to keep doing it until my team wins. Once again, I don’t have to go in there, but it’s one option available to me, so I try. I truly, deeply wish there was a way to get a 30,000-year penalty instead.
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OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭DragonRacer wrote: »You've never, ever been disconnected to the main screen of this game while in a BG or a ToT match or dungeon?
I'm jealous.
Man, did that suck during Whitestrakes. Disconnected in a match a couple of times, then I was unable to gain AP from all sources, including Cyro and Imp City for 30 minutes.
They really need to implement a 60 second window of return at least so we have a chance to get back into the match deal with deserter penalty due to disconnects.2 -
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✭✭✭how about bugs when the game disconnects you by mistake and you get a penalty ?
I'm ok with 30 min
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✭✭Grizzbeorn wrote: »
It's not that simple. This screenshot is just one example! If I want to level up my Scribing skills, I don’t have to go into PvP, that’s true. But it’s one of the options available to me. So, I go there, and I absolutely hate it. What I hate the most? To get the script, I don’t just have to do something I despise so much that words can’t even express it, but I also have to win. Participating isn't enough for ZoS. We have to win! Just participating once isn't sufficient; I have to keep doing it until my team wins. Once again, I don’t have to go in there, but it’s one option available to me, so I try. I truly, deeply wish there was a way to get a 30,000-year penalty instead.
If you dislike PvP you have two other options to obtain the scripts you are missing (Delve and Mages Guild quests). Why did you choose PvP option in the first place?0 -
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✭✭✭✭So just to make sure I'm clear here: the issue is that OP doesn't like pvp; is *not* required to pvp to obtain scripts; but cannot control themselves sufficiently to stop pvp'ing to obtain scripts unless there is a lengthy penalty for leaving a bg. Very constructive.1 -
Mr_Friendly✭✭To clarify, how are you getting 30 minute deserter penalty, anyway? When I have been disconnected, or pulled out of BG into IC as mentioned above, it's only been 5 minutes.3
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✭✭✭4v4 is NOT competitive. The Deserter Penalty should be 5 minutes not 30 minutes.PC NA1 -
abkam✭✭✭ESO_player123 wrote: »Grizzbeorn wrote: »
It's not that simple. This screenshot is just one example! If I want to level up my Scribing skills, I don’t have to go into PvP, that’s true. But it’s one of the options available to me. So, I go there, and I absolutely hate it. What I hate the most? To get the script, I don’t just have to do something I despise so much that words can’t even express it, but I also have to win. Participating isn't enough for ZoS. We have to win! Just participating once isn't sufficient; I have to keep doing it until my team wins. Once again, I don’t have to go in there, but it’s one option available to me, so I try. I truly, deeply wish there was a way to get a 30,000-year penalty instead.
If you dislike PvP you have two other options to obtain the scripts you are missing (Delve and Mages Guild quests). Why did you choose PvP option in the first place?
Or maybe PvP was the last option I had available today.
The biggest problem isn't that I hate PvP. The biggest problem is that I hate PvP, and the game rules "force" me to participate until I win the match. Wouldn't it be enough to obtain the script after participating in a PvP activity, whether winning or losing? Why "force" players to win a match?
Just to keep PvP activities more alive?! Hmm... yeah, seems fair.
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Orbital78✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mr_Friendly wrote: »To clarify, how are you getting 30 minute deserter penalty, anyway? When I have been disconnected, or pulled out of BG into IC as mentioned above, it's only been 5 minutes.
I had noticed the same, by the time I reconnected it was usually gone. If only dungeons were like that.0 -
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Do you know guild dailies can be shared between friends and guildmates? I don't know the exact number but I think you can do well over 5-6 per day. IMO the more options the better, not everyone enjoys PVE so this gives those PVP players an extra option.
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Thumbless_Bot✭✭✭✭✭
✭SkaraMinoc wrote: »4v4 is NOT competitive. The Deserter Penalty should be 5 minutes not 30 minutes.
It is though. People compete over who can stand in one spot and heal more. 🤣1 -
JinKC98✭✭✭ESO_player123 wrote: »Grizzbeorn wrote: »
It's not that simple. This screenshot is just one example! If I want to level up my Scribing skills, I don’t have to go into PvP, that’s true. But it’s one of the options available to me. So, I go there, and I absolutely hate it. What I hate the most? To get the script, I don’t just have to do something I despise so much that words can’t even express it, but I also have to win. Participating isn't enough for ZoS. We have to win! Just participating once isn't sufficient; I have to keep doing it until my team wins. Once again, I don’t have to go in there, but it’s one option available to me, so I try. I truly, deeply wish there was a way to get a 30,000-year penalty instead.
If you dislike PvP you have two other options to obtain the scripts you are missing (Delve and Mages Guild quests). Why did you choose PvP option in the first place?
Or maybe PvP was the last option I had available today.
The biggest problem isn't that I hate PvP. The biggest problem is that I hate PvP, and the game rules "force" me to participate until I win the match. Wouldn't it be enough to obtain the script after participating in a PvP activity, whether winning or losing? Why "force" players to win a match?
Just to keep PvP activities more alive?! Hmm... yeah, seems fair.
I remember Delve and Mages Guild quests can be shared, at least one of them can. So you can do more than one per day.
If it only requires people to participate in BG and not winning, most people might just join and stand at spawn. If it requires people winning, it kinda force the person to really be in there and fight. At least that's what I thought.0 -
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✭✭ESO_player123 wrote: »Grizzbeorn wrote: »
It's not that simple. This screenshot is just one example! If I want to level up my Scribing skills, I don’t have to go into PvP, that’s true. But it’s one of the options available to me. So, I go there, and I absolutely hate it. What I hate the most? To get the script, I don’t just have to do something I despise so much that words can’t even express it, but I also have to win. Participating isn't enough for ZoS. We have to win! Just participating once isn't sufficient; I have to keep doing it until my team wins. Once again, I don’t have to go in there, but it’s one option available to me, so I try. I truly, deeply wish there was a way to get a 30,000-year penalty instead.
If you dislike PvP you have two other options to obtain the scripts you are missing (Delve and Mages Guild quests). Why did you choose PvP option in the first place?
Or maybe PvP was the last option I had available today.
The biggest problem isn't that I hate PvP. The biggest problem is that I hate PvP, and the game rules "force" me to participate until I win the match. Wouldn't it be enough to obtain the script after participating in a PvP activity, whether winning or losing? Why "force" players to win a match?
Just to keep PvP activities more alive?! Hmm... yeah, seems fair.
I remember Delve and Mages Guild quests can be shared, at least one of them can. So you can do more than one per day.
If it only requires people to participate in BG and not winning, most people might just join and stand at spawn. If it requires people winning, it kinda force the person to really be in there and fight. At least that's what I thought.
From Alcast:
100% Guaranteed Script drop from the first daily coffer of each different type of daily quest and a 25% chance for a repeated daily of that type for your account.
So, shared quests only give you a chance of getting another script of the same type.
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Orbital78✭✭✭✭✭
✭ESO_player123 wrote: »So, shared quests only give you a chance of getting another script of the same type.
True, but they are curated. I was able to fill mine rather quickly if you do it everyday. The good scripts I actually traded around to alts to keep curating them.0 -
Xarc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Still, it's funny
the guy is banned and wants to be banned more@xarcs FR-EU-PC -"Death is overrated", Xarc
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frogthroat✭✭✭✭✭
✭And I'm serious. Every time I enter PvP in this game, all I wish for is a way to never return here again.
Blink twice if someone is holding you hostage and forcing you to do PVP against your will.
Having the option is not the same as forcing you to do it. If you must do it because the option is there, that is on you, not the game. I collected each script to all characters without any PVP. The game should not control your behaviour. You should control your behaviour.3 -
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✭30 minutes is fine as long as they can't see a difference between actually deserting and a disconnect due to a crash or similar. Since I use Windows 11 ESO crashes regulary, I tried repairing, reinstalling, with and without addons, Admin mode and everything, I can't stop it.
To get an even longer penalty for that would be deeply frustrating, so I guess they would need to find a way to distinct a crash from a rage quit, before they can adjust the timer.PC|EU0
