Back to Coldharbour?

Aelfan

I have just started a new character. I like to do the tutorial because you pick up some stuff to get started with (like lockpicks, armour, weapons, you know, stuff). HOWEVER! It seems we are back to that hateful Coldharbour tutorial! The most off-putting part of this game is this offensive issue of not having a soul. With other recent characters I have happily retained my soul and ignored the dreary so-called "Main Quest"! At some time in the past it may have appealed to some dev that all players have no souls, but I actually find it offensive. Pleased drop this "Chosen One" stuff and let us be normal human beings that have that one aspect of existence that makes us human: our souls.

SeaGtGruff

Don't we eventually get our souls back?

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:God_of_Schemes

Just complete the Main Quest and all will be well.

TaSheen

Aelfan wrote: »

I have just started a new character. I like to do the tutorial because you pick up some stuff to get started with (like lockpicks, armour, weapons, you know, stuff). HOWEVER! It seems we are back to that hateful Coldharbour tutorial! The most off-putting part of this game is this offensive issue of not having a soul. With other recent characters I have happily retained my soul and ignored the dreary so-called "Main Quest"! At some time in the past it may have appealed to some dev that all players have no souls, but I actually find it offensive. Pleased drop this "Chosen One" stuff and let us be normal human beings that have that one aspect of existence that makes us human: our souls.

Yeah. Not impressed. 6.5 years since I've done the MQ, never doing it again, and I don't spend ANY time in Coldharbour now that I'm done with Master Anglers.

The soul thing just doesn't bother me. In fact.... I found the insertion of an Earth-human attitude like that really off-putting.

emilyhyoyeon

I get around this by headcanoning all of my characters as normal people and not the vestige.

DenverRalphy

I personally missed the Coldharbor tutorial quest. <shrug>

Aelfan

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Don't we eventually get our souls back?

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:God_of_Schemes

Just complete the Main Quest and all will be well.

I'm not entirely sure, I have finished the whole tiresome thing only once, and I am not entirely sure I got my soul back in the end.

Icy_Waffles

I mean someone’s gotta be unhappy and complain with every change right?

I personally like this. Feels right. Login looks amazing.

Aelfan

Aelfan wrote: »

I have just started a new character. I like to do the tutorial because you pick up some stuff to get started with (like lockpicks, armour, weapons, you know, stuff). HOWEVER! It seems we are back to that hateful Coldharbour tutorial! The most off-putting part of this game is this offensive issue of not having a soul. With other recent characters I have happily retained my soul and ignored the dreary so-called "Main Quest"! At some time in the past it may have appealed to some dev that all players have no souls, but I actually find it offensive. Pleased drop this "Chosen One" stuff and let us be normal human beings that have that one aspect of existence that makes us human: our souls.

So I got to level 4 on the new character, and it seems even though I skipped the tutorial that tedious man in the hood wants me to do his quest and I have no soul. I guess I wont be playing this character and will be never making any more.

ElvenOverlord

Not having a soul is the least off putting thing about this game. It’s temporary and is a major plot point that affects specific storylines in faction leveling including some feats you wouldn’t be able to accomplish if you had your soul. It’s simply a story telling device plus you get your soul back in the end anyway.

Aelfan

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

Not having a soul is the least off putting thing about this game. It’s temporary and is a major plot point that affects specific storylines in faction leveling including some feats you wouldn’t be able to accomplish if you had your soul. It’s simply a story telling device plus you get your soul back in the end anyway.

I can't say that avoiding the whole thing, which I have done on a couple of characters now, has hampered my enjoyment of the game. Being called "vestige" all the time does hamper my enjoyment, and I would much rather we could go back to it being optional.

Aelfan

Icy_Waffles wrote: »

I mean someone’s gotta be unhappy and complain with every change right?

I personally like this. Feels right. Login looks amazing.

I think you are in the wrong discussion.

Aelfan

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I get around this by headcanoning all of my characters as normal people and not the vestige.

Yes, I have typically just ignored it. I have done the whole "Main Quest" once and would prefer to never do it again.

TaSheen

Aelfan wrote: »

Aelfan wrote: »

I have just started a new character. I like to do the tutorial because you pick up some stuff to get started with (like lockpicks, armour, weapons, you know, stuff). HOWEVER! It seems we are back to that hateful Coldharbour tutorial! The most off-putting part of this game is this offensive issue of not having a soul. With other recent characters I have happily retained my soul and ignored the dreary so-called "Main Quest"! At some time in the past it may have appealed to some dev that all players have no souls, but I actually find it offensive. Pleased drop this "Chosen One" stuff and let us be normal human beings that have that one aspect of existence that makes us human: our souls.

So I got to level 4 on the new character, and it seems even though I skipped the tutorial that tedious man in the hood wants me to do his quest and I have no soul. I guess I wont be playing this character and will be never making any more.

I did the MQ twice: once each on my first two account mains. None of the rest of my alts have EVER touched the MQ (I have about 70 alts on 4 accounts both pc megaservers). Getting around the Prophet is really fairly easy: just ignore him. Yes, the damned quest will land in your log, and you can't get rid of it (VERY unfortunate, devs) - but you can ignore the quest, him, and the hooded figure if that's what you wind up with first. Just because it's in your log doesn't mean you ever have to interact with it - and quite frankly, I never pay any attention to the whole "soulless vestige" garbage.

Aelfan

TaSheen wrote: »

Aelfan wrote: »

Aelfan wrote: »

I have just started a new character. I like to do the tutorial because you pick up some stuff to get started with (like lockpicks, armour, weapons, you know, stuff). HOWEVER! It seems we are back to that hateful Coldharbour tutorial! The most off-putting part of this game is this offensive issue of not having a soul. With other recent characters I have happily retained my soul and ignored the dreary so-called "Main Quest"! At some time in the past it may have appealed to some dev that all players have no souls, but I actually find it offensive. Pleased drop this "Chosen One" stuff and let us be normal human beings that have that one aspect of existence that makes us human: our souls.

So I got to level 4 on the new character, and it seems even though I skipped the tutorial that tedious man in the hood wants me to do his quest and I have no soul. I guess I wont be playing this character and will be never making any more.

I did the MQ twice: once each on my first two account mains. None of the rest of my alts have EVER touched the MQ (I have about 70 alts on 4 accounts both pc megaservers). Getting around the Prophet is really fairly easy: just ignore him. Yes, the damned quest will land in your log, and you can't get rid of it (VERY unfortunate, devs) - but you can ignore the quest, him, and the hooded figure if that's what you wind up with first. Just because it's in your log doesn't mean you ever have to interact with it - and quite frankly, I never pay any attention to the whole "soulless vestige" garbage.

Thank you for this, especially for telling me you have 70 alts!! I believe I just made #13, and my wife (who has 7) was giving me grief about it. I think I rather got used to being able to avoid all of this, and enjoyed having characters with a soul. It would be nice if it could be possible to continue in that way for those of us who think such things matter. So much of this game is so beautiful. It is a fun place to run around in to do quests and find chests. I don't see why being soulless should be a prerequisite.

tsaescishoeshiner

The mechanics (wayshrines) and other quests in the game assume that you've completed the Coldharbour intro, even though it's been skippable for years. Overall, I think it's a much better and more seamless experience, although I always get the desire to roleplay as like a Regular Denizen. Not much to do for it except control your own roleplay after the tutorial

TaSheen

Aelfan wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

Aelfan wrote: »

Aelfan wrote: »

I have just started a new character. I like to do the tutorial because you pick up some stuff to get started with (like lockpicks, armour, weapons, you know, stuff). HOWEVER! It seems we are back to that hateful Coldharbour tutorial! The most off-putting part of this game is this offensive issue of not having a soul. With other recent characters I have happily retained my soul and ignored the dreary so-called "Main Quest"! At some time in the past it may have appealed to some dev that all players have no souls, but I actually find it offensive. Pleased drop this "Chosen One" stuff and let us be normal human beings that have that one aspect of existence that makes us human: our souls.

So I got to level 4 on the new character, and it seems even though I skipped the tutorial that tedious man in the hood wants me to do his quest and I have no soul. I guess I wont be playing this character and will be never making any more.

I did the MQ twice: once each on my first two account mains. None of the rest of my alts have EVER touched the MQ (I have about 70 alts on 4 accounts both pc megaservers). Getting around the Prophet is really fairly easy: just ignore him. Yes, the damned quest will land in your log, and you can't get rid of it (VERY unfortunate, devs) - but you can ignore the quest, him, and the hooded figure if that's what you wind up with first. Just because it's in your log doesn't mean you ever have to interact with it - and quite frankly, I never pay any attention to the whole "soulless vestige" garbage.

Thank you for this, especially for telling me you have 70 alts!! I believe I just made #13, and my wife (who has 7) was giving me grief about it. I think I rather got used to being able to avoid all of this, and enjoyed having characters with a soul. It would be nice if it could be possible to continue in that way for those of us who think such things matter. So much of this game is so beautiful. It is a fun place to run around in to do quests and find chests. I don't see why being soulless should be a prerequisite.

Well, it's a prereq because that's how the story was written, and the game evolved around it. It really is optional to do any of it, and you can just ignore the whole "soulless" part in your own mind. Once you figure out where you'll see the Prophet or the hooded figure (generally the first of the main zones - so for DC that's Glenumbra, for AD it's Auridon, for EP it's Stonefalls), you can just dodge around him, and since the first quest notation in your log is the only one you'll ever have if you never talk to him, you can just pretend it's not there.

That's what I do anyway.