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KOS (Kill On Sight) PVP addons allowed?!?!?
Pixiepumpkin
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So you are cool with the development, distribution and use of addons that are specifically designed to track and harass players in PVP?
I just..I don't know what to say...
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on March 9, 2025 6:29PM I just..I don't know what to say...
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Munkfist✭✭✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »So you are cool with the development, distribution and use of addons that are specifically designed to track and harass players in PVP?
I just..I don't know what to say...
Some context can go a very long way.@Munkfist PC-NA
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✭Could you please give the name of this addon?
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✭I'm asuming they are talking about an add-on like squishy finder?LadyGP/xCatGuy
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✭The OP also started this thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/674068/squishy-finder-pvp-addon-how-can-this-seriously-be-allowed
So my assumption is that this is the add on being referenced.
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Jestir✭✭✭✭✭An addon that just adds a label to info already included in the game? How awful?
I don't get the complaints, you can do the same thing without an addon. See low HP, tab target, and then focus them.
This isn't miats which tells you to react to something before the game actually gives you the video or audio information to possibly do it yourself.
Might as well ban LUI, AUI, and Bandits UI as well for having easier to see health bars, I don't get the complaint6 -
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✭✭✭✭Mait's PVP addon does have a KOS list, that you can add players to. I assume this might be what OP is talking about.
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Jestir✭✭✭✭✭Mait's PVP addon does have a KOS list, that you can add players to. I assume this might be what OP is talking about.
OP has another post about "Squishy Finder" which puts hp values and a label on your cross hair. OP has very specifically not named that addon in this post as it will lead to it being closed like their other post was
I think the the jury on Miats and what it "provides" is a consensus0 -
Orbital78✭✭✭✭✭
✭Toxic Players addon has a similar function to announce when you run into players on your ignore list. Seems perfectly fine in PVP as long as they follow ToS?ToxicPlayer is a tiny social addon that enables you to spot ignored players or friends more easily in the game by changing the reticle style.
You'll then be able to focus your foes on the battle fields, not help the players ignored in your faction and even spot your friends or guild mates if they're not grouped with you.
You can as well easily add target players to your ignore list (ideal for PvP T-baggers) and report players using exploits or bots for example.
I use it personally for spotting ignored players from dungeons: fake tanks without taunt, bad dps, fake healer with no heals, players that refuse to learn mechanics, junk talker/racist remarks/etc. It is also the only way I could think of to report cheating players masking their names while flying around or moving too quickly to use traditional methods.Edited by Orbital78 on March 6, 2025 10:18PM2 -
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✭✭I play a lot of PvP and I personally have not run into a scenario where I was like, "hmm, is that person using an addon to harass me. They must be!"
But that is just my personal experience.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭✭✭✭Not sure what add-on this is about. But all add-ons should be disabled in PvP completely, that is the only way to get a fair playingfield.8 -
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What is the purpose of writing this post? if it is for discussion, then there is little information in it. if it's for another purpose, then you'd better not write them at all.Pixiepumpkin wrote: »So you are cool with the development, distribution and use of addons that are specifically designed to track and harass players in PVP?
I just..I don't know what to say...
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CalamityCat✭✭✭✭Without naming the plugin it's a bit tricky to offer any opinions or discussion.
It isn't harassment to have a kill on sight list, whether that's in an add-on or a post-it on the side of your monitor. I don't think it's constructive to assume the worst about a player's motivation in using these things. Especially when we have no context or information about what happened or why the character might have been focused. I've been a target many times, but every single one I could see why they chose my character and try to learn and adapt to survive next time.
Incidentally, an add-on that tells you a particular player is nearby would give you a handy warning if you've had a problem with them in the past. Which is surely a good thing if you're upset that a particular player is picking on you. Why not use said add-on and use it to stay safer?0 -
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✭If you go into PVP being focused by someone you have pissed off is kind of what you get. Being focus killed is not harassment, it is part of the game. I don't PVP much, but when I do and if I see someone I don't care for I would sure as heck focus them. There are tools in game for this: tab targeting.3 -
Major_Toughness✭✭✭✭✭There are several add-ons which will alter or add to your UI if you are targetting a player which you have added to a list.
Similarly there are add-ons which tell you if people are on your friends list, block list, or share a guild, by displaying something next to their name, or changing the colour of it.
They work exactly the same way.
Hell, there are even ones used in PvE which put big symbols above tanks and healers so you can identify them, or even custom icons.
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info2834-OdySupportIcons-GroupRoleIconsMore.html
So what you are actually mad about, as you probably don't care about the friends, guild, or group lists, they are "in good faith", but that someone may target you, because they don't like you.
I would ask what are you doing which causes people not to like you?
There are plenty of people which are on my "KOS" list, but I don't use an add-on, just memory. The add-on is useful if they change username though. That's the only benefit, but so does the block list, which I do use.Edited by Major_Toughness on March 6, 2025 11:33PMMAKE AZUREBLIGHT GREAT AGAIN
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✭As a nb ganker, I love squishy finder!In game ID: @KnightOfTacoma
Main: Black Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50/CP 2160 Nightblade NA PC - Grand Master Crafter, adventurer and part time ganker. Rank 35 - Palatine Grade 1
PVP Main:Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Rank 29 - Brigadier Grade 1 - Ravenwatch veteran. Blood for the Pact!
Guild: The Disenfranchised - ZZ!Other alts:
Blood Scion of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Nightblade NA PC
Duke of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Dragonknight NA PC
Yama Of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Necromancer NA PC
Count Of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Necromancer NA PC
Seigneur of Tacoma - EP Lvl 28 Arcanist NA PC
Grand Vizier of Tacoma - EP Lvl 19 Arcanist NA PC - Icereach
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Angus of Tacoma- EP Lvl 47 Sorcerer NA PC - Former EmperorObituary:
RIP Priest of Tacoma - EP Lvl 22 Dragon Knight NA PC Kyne - Lost in the Garden of Shadows.
RIP.Viscount of Tacoma - EP Lvl 18 Dragon Knight NA PC Kyne - Lost in the war.
RIP. Squire of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died of Knahaten Flu.
RIP Reaper of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died of Consumption.
RIP Sovereign of Tacoma - EP Lvl 32 NightBlade NA PC Kyne - Lost at The Battle of Brindle, December 13, 2018.
RIP Dauphin of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC Kyne - Overdosed on Skooma.
RIP Wraith of Tacoma - EP Lvl 10 Dragon Knight NA PC - Eaten by a dragon.
RIP Red Knight of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Died at the Battle of Chalmen, March 18th, 2021.
RIP Maharajah of Tacoma - EP Lvl 50 Templar NA PC - Lost in a sandstorm.
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✭. (I commented on one tread and the comment went to another. I didn't understand anything LOL)Edited by FabresFour on March 7, 2025 4:00AM@FabresFour - 2305 CP
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✭Major_Toughness wrote: »but that someone may target you, because they don't like you.
I would ask what are you doing which causes people not to like you?
I wouldn't, it's the Internet, people don't need a good reason. It could be something as petty as not liking your playstyle or being salty that you got the killing blow on them. An addon that lets you single out a person forever does not seem healthy at all.Edited by amig186 on March 7, 2025 7:07AMPC EU7 -
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✭You’d faint if you knew what Miats was truly capable of during its early days.
I gank a lot in my time and never felt someone was using this add on to single me out and harass.Edited by Kikazaru on March 7, 2025 6:32AMMizaru
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✭✭Rather than approach this from an ethics standpoint, let's talk about addon logistics instead.
Let's say ZOS doesn't want these KOS addons to exist. They have two options: 1. pressure ESOUI to remove those addons, or 2. restrict access to the API functions that are core to the functionality of KOS addons.
1. get ESOUI to remove KOS addonsSure, ESOUI may be the largest repository of ESO addons, especially through their Minion app, so getting ESOUI to remove KOS addons from their repos would do a lot. However, that would still leave the KOS addons untouched if they're already downloaded. so loads of people would still have access to those addons.
ESOUI technically can remotely delete those addons from users once Minion is launched (if you enable auto-update in Minion, they technically already do that before downloading the updated versions of addons), but now you're delving into big no-no territory.
Here's the kicker: ESOUI is not the only repository of ESO addons. Many addons are also hosted on GitHub and GitLab, as well as plenty of Discord servers. You're also not stopping anyone from developing and distributing their own versions of KOS addons; heck, it's very simple to make for any half-decent programmer. It's simply just not feasible to try to remove these addons, as more would just pop up, in many other places.
2. restrict API functions vital to KOS addonsOkay, let's instead restrict or even remove the API functions needed for KOS addons. What would those be?
Let's see: you'd need access to player names in your ignore list, and you'd need access to the name of the player you are targeting. You'd also need to be able to draw some element on screen to show that the targeted player is in your ignore list so your addon user can hard focus that target.
Oops! All of those things are vital to the base game UI. That's right: the base game UI uses those API functions to 1. show your ignore list, 2. show target information, and 3. draw literally every image and text element you see on screen. Not only that, almost all other addons use at least one of those functions.
By even just restricting API access to the player names in your ignore list, you'd be breaking the base game ignore list entirely. Even if that sounds like a good compromise to "ban KOS addons forever", that is stopping precisely no one from making a new "ignore list" addon that simply just saves the @names of players you want to ignore, and then for KOS addons to take names from those ignore lists.
Basically, a fruitless endeavour.
Edited by HatchetHaro on March 7, 2025 8:35AMBest Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it
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✭✭✭Please keep this stuff far, far away from consoles.
Let’s be honest. Seeing some of the add ons/notifications on PC PvP streams is pretty gross. 🤣
Come on now. Tab target low health players automatically? Do you even play the game at that point?4 -
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✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Come on now. Tab target low health players automatically?
Well, then you'll be relieved to hear that that's not what the addon is doing. Not least because it often is a really bad idea.5 -
opethmaniac✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Come on now. Tab target low health players automatically? Do you even play the game at that point?
Where does this rumor come from? Do YOU even play the game at that point?
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✭✭✭opethmaniac wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Come on now. Tab target low health players automatically? Do you even play the game at that point?
Where does this rumor come from? Do YOU even play the game at that point?
I’m not sure what all these add ons do exactly for PC, but I find it kind of amusing.
I play the game with out text alerts to dodge, block, incoming projectile, and every other heads up including what appears a big “kill me sign” for low health players.
“Squishy Finder” just seems lazy and unsporting.7 -
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✭People throwing around false info to make addons look like "cheating" doesn't help anyone.
As some people have pointed out, you can't simply disallow a given addon. What would have to happen would be to change the API addons use to allow/disallow certain things. If you disable the things these addons use, a lot of other things suddenly don't work because they are generally using super basic functions the base game UI also needs.
The API has no way I know of to tab target anything for you and none of the addons people have mentioned auto target or auto tab anything. All they do is give an alternative display of info that you already have access to via the base game UI. Is it easier to read? Sure. But there's so many legitimate reasons to adjust the base game UI that losing the functionality to adjust it would be a huge quality of life loss for a huge number of players.
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