Cyro is back to 2023 server performance

Einstein_

Today, the performance in Cyrodiil on EU is back to how it was in 2023… UNPLAYABLE

- After breaking free, you stay still for 3 seconds—can't move, can't do anything.-
- Skills don’t work all the time.
- You get rollbacks constantly.
- People crash as soon as they enter a bigger fight and can’t log back in.


Whatever ZOS says is just a big lie.
They just don't want to invest any money into fixing the game,
that’s all. It’s all about the money they don’t want to spend on fixing it.

GeneralGrundmann

I'm always wondering if this is a pc-problem "only".

Neither Cyro nor IC have any issues whenever I play there on PS-EU. Not even now with the crowded WM-event, no issues.

Perhaps the number of players is much lower on PS?

Or PS don't get attacked as much as PC?

Just curious...

colossalvoids

The only thing I can confirm is being booted when approaching some encounters, like you see 5-10 players already idling same spot when approaching and when you're getting into the castle proximity same as them you're instantly booted out.

WaywardArgonian

Yes. I tried to play yesterday around prime time in the Gray Host server on PC/EU and it was back to feeling like playing in 'slow motion', with skills taking several button presses to activate, animations of skills showing without the skills actually going off, the whole package. I have recorded it in case any dev is interested in taking a look at it.

LadyGP

colossalvoids wrote: »

The only thing I can confirm is being booted when approaching some encounters, like you see 5-10 players already idling same spot when approaching and when you're getting into the castle proximity same as them you're instantly booted out.

Yeah there are some distinct loading zones as you approach the keeps... for me I have to get off my mount and kind of walk into that loading area. If I full send it then I increase the chances of dc-ing.

davidtk

Yea allmighty Grey Host campaign.
I was there with wife and not so much a big fight, but she was booted when fight near keep started. Miraculously, the game let her back in immediately. But I remembered what it was like to have a few seconds delay of abilities even in smaller battles. Although after replacing the server HW it is definitely more playable, but still... lags and non-functional abilities (you hit ability and you get heavy attack animation withou any fire lol), just "beauty"

spartaxoxo

I've had skills not fire but haven't had any crashes on ps na

JakelDK

I have had next to no issues in pvp during this event even with full bars on all alliances and plenty of players in que. Im on xbox EU btw.

katanagirl1

I haven’t had any issues except for getting dc’d early on in the event and having to requeue.

I think it has more to do with the fact that I just don’t group up anymore. Groups just farm AP anyway and rarely play the map.

Xarc

You forgot some important parameters :

- sunday
- pvp event

Dragonnord

I have had ZERO issues with PvP. Zero issues in Cyro, zero issues in IC, zero issues in BGs.

I have to say it, because people are constantly bashing ZOS saying it's unplayable.

I have had no problems at all.

Stamicka

Yea whenever I’ve tried to PvP on PC NA the performance is awful. The location desync combined with the skill delay makes me log off very quickly.

What’s strange is that Xbox NA has essentially perfect PvP performance even during prime time. I’ve had no performance issues at all on Xbox NA during this entire event and I’ve played quite a bit.

At this point, the extra frames on PC for PvP isn’t worth the server side performance issues. I’ll gladly take Xbox’s stable 60 FPS and good server performance over 165 FPS, but bad server performance. I also kind of like add-on free PvP anyway.

PC still performs better for PvE, but there’s something strange going on that makes PC have poor Cyrodiil performance.

reazea

Dragonnord wrote: »

I have had ZERO issues with PvP. Zero issues in Cyro, zero issues in IC, zero issues in BGs.

I have to say it, because people are constantly bashing ZOS saying it's unplayable.

I have had no problems at all.

The vast majority of posters commenting on performance, lag etc. all say they have issues. But it's always the same handful or less of posters who jump in to say there are no issues.

Dragonnord

reazea wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I have had ZERO issues with PvP. Zero issues in Cyro, zero issues in IC, zero issues in BGs.

I have to say it, because people are constantly bashing ZOS saying it's unplayable.

I have had no problems at all.

The vast majority of posters commenting on performance, lag etc. all say they have issues. But it's always the same handful or less of posters who jump in to say there are no issues.

If there are so many issues how can I have no issues at all? Want me to record 1 hour of gaming in prime time as proof?

Am I that special? Have I been selected by ZOS to not have issues?

In another post I said that there are a lot of factors why someone can have issues, going from Windows updates and versions (redistributables, frameworks, etc.), GPU drivers, video settings in Windows and GPU self software, third party softwares managing GPU and video settins config, video settings in-game (most people don't have a clue what's best for their GPUs), addons, Steam config with shader pre-caching (causes a lot of issues), potato PCs, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc...

But of course it's always easier to blame ZOS, right?
 

SeaGtGruff

Dragonnord wrote: »

I have had ZERO issues with PvP. Zero issues in Cyro, zero issues in IC, zero issues in BGs.

I have to say it, because people are constantly bashing ZOS saying it's unplayable.

I have had no problems at all.

I've had a few disconnects, but they've been isolated and happened in the middle of very large battles with a lot of players in the area. Yet at other times I've been in very large battles and had no obvious problems as far as lag, desyncs, etc.

And the other night I was having trouble getting my skills to work properly while attempting to PvE-capture a resource; for instance, I kept trying to bash the NPC healers but I could not seem to interrupt them. It felt like bad lag, yet my latency was apparently pretty good (over 100, but not in the red). This was while there were no other players nearby, just the NPC guards and workers at the resource. Then at other times I've had no obvious problems getting my skills to fire despite being in the thick of battle with other players all around.

So it's been pretty inconsistent for me, but it hasn't been too bad, aside from the night I got disconnected twice and had to wait to get back in because the queue was so long-- which suggests that the player population was very high that night. For the most part, I've had a lot of fun during this Mayhem, and some of the battles have been epic.

reazea wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I have had ZERO issues with PvP. Zero issues in Cyro, zero issues in IC, zero issues in BGs.

I have to say it, because people are constantly bashing ZOS saying it's unplayable.

I have had no problems at all.

The vast majority of posters commenting on performance, lag etc. all say they have issues. But it's always the same handful or less of posters who jump in to say there are no issues.

They didn't say "there are no issues." They said they "have had no problems at all." They should be allowed to comment about their experiences, even if their experiences are not identical to someone else's.

spartaxoxo

Dragonnord wrote: »

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But of course it's always easier to blame ZOS, right?
 

ZOS themselves has acknowledged that there are issues being caused on their end and that's why they're doing the vengeance campaign. Just because you haven't had issues does not mean people reporting their issues are bashing/blaming ZOS.

Oblivion_Protocol

Dragonnord wrote: »

If there are so many issues how can I have no issues at all? Want me to record 1 hour of gaming in prime time as proof?

Am I that special? Have I been selected by ZOS to not have issues?

In another post I said that there are a lot of factors why someone can have issues, going from Windows updates and versions (redistributables, frameworks, etc.), GPU drivers, video settings in Windows and GPU self software, third party softwares managing GPU and video settins config, video settings in-game (most people don't have a clue what's best for their GPUs), addons, Steam config with shader pre-caching (causes a lot of issues), potato PCs, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc...

But of course it's always easier to blame ZOS, right?

“If gun violence is such a problem, how come I haven’t been shot? Do I have to record 1 hour walking through my cul-de-sac at night as proof?”

Do you see how, much like a cheap sweater, your logic falls apart at the slightest tug of a single string? Just because things don’t happen to you doesn’t mean they don’t happen or that people are laying the blame in the wrong place.

In case you hadn’t noticed, people are talking about PvP performance. If the issue was truly stuff like addons and video configurations, the whole game would be a buggy mess. But PvE runs smooth as butter for the majority of us. It’s literally just PvP, and mainly Cyro PvP.

Also, ZoS themselves have put out multiple statements saying that they know PvP performance is bad and they’re working on it. That’s exactly what the upcoming Cyro Champions mode is about.

Dragonnord

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

Do you see how, much like a cheap sweater, your logic falls apart

No, I don't. Enlight me why I have zero issues. Hmmm... maybe I was selected by God to be inmune to issues?

By the way, clearly you didn't read the last part of my last post.

Surely everyone has perfect computers with everything perfectly configured with no conflicts or anything that may cause problems with performance. No one has things with Windows updates and versions (redistributables, frameworks, etc.), GPU drivers, video settings in Windows and GPU self software, third party softwares managing GPU and video settins config, video settings in-game (most people don't have a clue what's best for their GPUs), addons, Steam config with shader pre-caching (causes a lot of issues), potato PCs.

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

Just because things don’t happen to you doesn’t mean they don’t happen or that people are laying the blame in the wrong place.

Or maybe what I say is correct and my computer is how it has to be and the computers of the complainers are not. Can this be a possibility? I answer for you: Yes.

Know that the huge majority of people don't have a clue about their PCs. They just turn on the computers, install Windows, install a game, put this setting on, this setting off, move this slide to the right or left, and think their games will sale like a boat on a fresh and calm spring sea forever.

People have been complaining about Cyrodiil since day 1, and even if performance is great (imagine it is), there will be people still complaining and blaming ZOS, ever and forever.

So, whatever... I'm enjoying Cyro and BGs with no issues at all (weird, because the server performance is awful, right?)

I have been blessed!

spartaxoxo

No, it's not a possibility that the performance issues that some experience are 100% on them. Because ZOS has acknowledged some of it is on their end and have been working on how to fix it for a while now.

Dragonnord

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No, it's not a possibility that the performance issues that some experience are 100% on them. Because ZOS has acknowledged some of it is on their end and have been working on how to fix it for a while now.

You say "that some experience", why some and not all of us then? Why not every single one of us?

spartaxoxo

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No, it's not a possibility that the performance issues that some experience are 100% on them. Because ZOS has acknowledged some of it is on their end and have been working on how to fix it for a while now.

You say "that some experience", why some and not all of us then? Why not every single one of us?

Because it's buggy and not consistent behavior. I won't deny that stuff on our end probably plays a factor, certainly PS5 performs better than PS4, for example. But, when ZOS notices that there are issues and are working on fix, then we can be certain that isn't the whole story.

Dragonnord

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No, it's not a possibility that the performance issues that some experience are 100% on them. Because ZOS has acknowledged some of it is on their end and have been working on how to fix it for a while now.

You say "that some experience", why some and not all of us then? Why not every single one of us?

Because it's buggy and not consistent behavior. I won't deny that stuff on our end probably plays a factor, certainly PS5 performs better than PS4, for example. But, when ZOS notices that there are issues and are working on fix, then we can be certain that isn't the whole story.

Today, yesterday, this week, last week, last month, this year, last year, I don't see any different performance in Cyrodiil compared to ever. So it's the usual complaining and people will complain forever, regardless how good or bad performance is.

You don't do much PvP you said, almost nothing you mentioned, I do PvP all the time and have a clear and close look on how things are.

Arrow312

before i took a break i had several problems DCs, Laggs, desyncs many others here wrote. after my break i started again and have more or less nothing i think one DC at loading screen, no delay no DCs in combat. Nothing changed on my End same connection same PC, same Addons.

Why it is so now? I have no idea. So for me it could be that some players have problems like this that others dont have.

spartaxoxo

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

No, it's not a possibility that the performance issues that some experience are 100% on them. Because ZOS has acknowledged some of it is on their end and have been working on how to fix it for a while now.

You say "that some experience", why some and not all of us then? Why not every single one of us?

Because it's buggy and not consistent behavior. I won't deny that stuff on our end probably plays a factor, certainly PS5 performs better than PS4, for example. But, when ZOS notices that there are issues and are working on fix, then we can be certain that isn't the whole story.

Today, yesterday, this week, last week, last month, this year, last year, I don't see any different performance in Cyrodiil compared to ever. So it's the usual complaining and people will complain forever, regardless how good or bad performance is.

You don't do much PvP you said, almost nothing you mentioned, I do PvP all the time and have a clear and close look on how things are.

One of the reasons I don't PvP is that I have issues with skills not firing off sometimes. I used to have more performance issues too but a lot of them resolved when I upgraded to PS5. Not all of them though. Skills not firing sometimes still happens. Just got me killed in last night, couldn't break free.

Einstein_

Dragonnord wrote: »

reazea wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

I have had ZERO issues with PvP. Zero issues in Cyro, zero issues in IC, zero issues in BGs.

I have to say it, because people are constantly bashing ZOS saying it's unplayable.

I have had no problems at all.

The vast majority of posters commenting on performance, lag etc. all say they have issues. But it's always the same handful or less of posters who jump in to say there are no issues.

If there are so many issues how can I have no issues at all? Want me to record 1 hour of gaming in prime time as proof?

Am I that special? Have I been selected by ZOS to not have issues?

In another post I said that there are a lot of factors why someone can have issues, going from Windows updates and versions (redistributables, frameworks, etc.), GPU drivers, video settings in Windows and GPU self software, third party softwares managing GPU and video settins config, video settings in-game (most people don't have a clue what's best for their GPUs), addons, Steam config with shader pre-caching (causes a lot of issues), potato PCs, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc...

But of course it's always easier to blame ZOS, right?
 

You are a NA player.

I play NA and EU, NA is dream performance compared to EU....