Do we need 45 seconds to mentally prepare ourselves for the "thrill" of the new bgs ?

Navaac223

If you get through the "looking for more players" phase, you reach the new and more interesting "waiting for the match to start" phase. Awesome.

Now, this wasn't an issue before the downgrade to 4v4 but now bgs (at least the 4v4 mode) are already 80% waiting for pve players to come down and 20% crushing said pve players.This makes it so that you can really feel the weight of the 45 second fun cooldown, especially for the second round of deathmatch.

Anyways, we either need to cut this timer to something like 10 seconds or maybe roll back the battlegrounds to when they were fun and balanced ? Just a suggestion

SPlDER5

The waiting is ridiculous I agree, especially when 90% of BGs are decided in the first minute anyway.

johnJrant

Navaac223 wrote: »

If you get through the "looking for more players" phase, you reach the new and more interesting "waiting for the match to start" phase. Awesome.

Now, this wasn't an issue before the downgrade to 4v4 but now bgs (at least the 4v4 mode) are already 80% waiting for pve players to come down and 20% crushing said pve players.This makes it so that you can really feel the weight of the 45 second fun cooldown, especially for the second round of deathmatch.

Anyways, we either need to cut this timer to something like 10 seconds or maybe roll back the battlegrounds to when they were fun and balanced ? Just a suggestion

We definitely need those 45 seconds. On a high mmr, you should discuss the tactics of the round before it starts, or just scold the group (this is more on a low mmr), or you may need changes in the build or backbar. If all this does not need to be done, then 45 seconds is enough to fill bong.
To be honest, it's weird. Almost everyone swears about excessive healing. But in order to fight groups, even with the strongest hill, you need a lot of control. To do this, at least one person will have to change their backbar from hill to control. Even if you have addons and switching takes a couple of seconds, it's still better to prepare.
I understand that we have more players coming in just to pick up the reward if they're lucky. But still, the main consumers of this mode are the players who play and do not wait for them to be killed or lucky enough to get into the team that wins. Again, at high mmr, we have no such problems, as well as rare problems of one-sided matches.

Moonspawn

Everything feels so wrong about the new BGs because they were designed for group vs group. The time is only useful for Premades.

''Countering how hopelessly lopsided most matches are in two-teams BGs will happen when entire teams collectively agree to change builds and strategies midgame. This has always been the domain of Premades, where it belongs. Expecting casual solo players to do this is bound to be disastrous, which is what we're seeing right now.''

Source: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/670165/battlegrounds-cycle-of-self-destruction/p1

johnJrant

Moonspawn wrote: »

Everything feels so wrong about the new BGs because they were designed for group vs group. The time is only useful for Premades.

''Countering how hopelessly lopsided most matches are in two-teams BGs will happen when entire teams collectively agree to change builds and strategies midgame. This has always been the domain of Premades, where it belongs. Expecting casual solo players to do this is bound to be disastrous, which is what we're seeing right now.''

Source: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/670165/battlegrounds-cycle-of-self-destruction/p1

I don't understand what the problem is to get dressed properly, learn tactics and change the back panel according to the situation. And on your topic. Competitive fights should not include more than 9 fighters on the map. Accordingly, a three-team mode is possible, but only no more than 3 fighters per team.

Thumbless_Bot

SPlDER5 wrote: »

The waiting is ridiculous I agree, especially when 90% of BGs are decided in the first minute anyway.

It's like waiting in line at an amusement park... two hour line in the hot sun for s 60-90 second roller coaster ride that's over almost as soon as it begins.