Nerf cross healing

monkiie

Please and thank you.

Kaysha

nothing more to say

AcadianPaladin

What is cross healing?

MidniteOwl1913

Dude PVP has been asking for that for years. If they were going to do something about it they would have done it by now. Just look for references to cross-healing in past forums.

chessalavakia_ESO

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

What is cross healing?

Cross healing is when people heal people other than themselves.

XSTRONG

I have been playing alot of battlegrounds since the update and the cross healing are really annoying especially since they are useally built as tanks and getting heals like crazy!

Zos should nerf it in my opinion at least for battlegrounds.

Example is minus 5-10% cross healing for every group member in battlegrounds like wearing a Pale order ring.

Deimus

Don't forget to put heal stacking on that list

Sluggy

XSTRONG wrote: »

I have been playing alot of battlegrounds since the update and the cross healing are really annoying especially since they are useally built as tanks and getting heals like crazy!

Zos should nerf it in my opinion at least for battlegrounds.

Example is minus 5-10% cross healing for every group member in battlegrounds like wearing a Pale order ring.

Too simplistic. What happens when I get in there with three people that have no idea what they are doing and running around with zero heals? Should I take a 15%-30% healing nerf? What if it's a dedicated healer in a group of four (I know, I know, that's about as likely as winning the lotto but still)? That just further encourages stacking heals on every character rather than having one strong dedicated role.

Healing does need to be toned down for sure and heal stacking is demonstrably a bad idea. But let's not assume that people need to take a massive hit just because there *might* be a compositioned team in a BG. This solution also doesn't do a thing for IC or Cyrodiil.

huskandhunger

Nerf PVP Cross-healing please 🥺

Iriidius

Sluggy wrote: »

XSTRONG wrote: »

I have been playing alot of battlegrounds since the update and the cross healing are really annoying especially since they are useally built as tanks and getting heals like crazy!

Zos should nerf it in my opinion at least for battlegrounds.

Example is minus 5-10% cross healing for every group member in battlegrounds like wearing a Pale order ring.

Too simplistic. What happens when I get in there with three people that have no idea what they are doing and running around with zero heals? Should I take a 15%-30% healing nerf? What if it's a dedicated healer in a group of four (I know, I know, that's about as likely as winning the lotto but still)? That just further encourages stacking heals on every character rather than having one strong dedicated role.

Healing does need to be toned down for sure and heal stacking is demonstrably a bad idea. But let's not assume that people need to take a massive hit just because there *might* be a compositioned team in a BG. This solution also doesn't do a thing for IC or Cyrodiil.

Three people running around with zero heals should better learn to slot and use heals or not play battlegrounds because there is no guarantee that the 4th player will be a healer and they probably end in many battlegrounds without anyone healing them anyway.
Stacking heals on every character is not encouraged, you just have no heal if you cant rely on someone else healing you at all time except if you heal yourself.
And why is stacking heals on every character such a problem, you can still have dedicated healers in group and be more more effektive than groups where every character selfheals.


Healing allies with single target heals can already save many of them and achieve more than doing dmg but just shares the healing of the skill rather than creating more of it for free whereas multitarget heals give a heal almost or totally as strong as a single target to multiple targets resulting in multiple times the total healing for the cost and cast time of one single target heal giving the remaining healing for free.
Any selfheal(*) giving more healing than other selfheals(*) is overperforming and gets request for nerf but multitarget heals(*) giving 6 times the healing is somehow acceptable because it is to 6 different players even when these 6 players all use multitarget heal resulting in everyone still getting 6 times the healing.
(*)(or buff or set or other effect)

Heal stacking relies on overperforming multitarget heals. A group trying to healstack usin singletarget heals would spend so much time and ressoursses casting all these heals for every group mate that they have none to attack and get incredible bored.

So reducing free healing to additional targets of multitarget heals would reduce the extremes of crosshealstacking.

Durham

If you nerf cross heals we would lose ball groups... So no it will not happen. ZOS likes ball groups and thinks that GVP is PVP.

DaniimalsSF

1. Remove ability stacking, heals and damage.
2. Separate weapon/spell damage from healing calculation.
3. Make heals need to target an ally. No more smart heals.

RaidingTraiding

What I don't like is that they keep adding new stuff to buff defensive power without conpensating anywhere else so players, especially groups, just keep increasing in survivability with every patch. So now it's not just healing, its healing, high hp, and a ton of shields stacked on top of each other. On top of that they've significantly nerfed aoe burst over the years which used to be the best way to kill groups.

daim

Disable healing in PVP areas. Problem solved and doesn't affect PVE. Everyone is happy.