Stealth and Detection

Crimsonorion

So was sneaking around in ESO and trying to do Safeboxes and kept getting that...idk if its a bug...problem where the detection eye goes closed, says "Hidden" for a second then goes full open..then starts to go closed again and just keeps repeating even when it seems like no one is looking at me, but my question is the armor/champion points items that say "Reduces range of stealth detection" do they affect that? Or is it just about the range another player can detect you when crouched aka only PvP? I looked up UESP and it doesn't explain anything

Kisakee

Crimsonorion wrote: »

"Reduces range of stealth detection" do they affect that?

Yes, but the moment you attempt to open the box you'll leave stealth.

Crimsonorion wrote: »

about the range another player can detect you when crouched

Also yes, it works in PvE and PvP.

Artem_gig

Yes, they also affect the NPCs. You can build a build in which you will not be visible at close range.

Crimsonorion

Ahh ok thanks, wanted to know for sure before I reconstruct a stealth suit for...certain things...

notyuu

Bonus fact: the "decreased detection radius" effect on nightmother, night terror, and draloc brae do infact stack with eachother, and given the set number requirements it is entirely possible to stack all 3 at once

katanagirl1

I think you are referring to a bug that has been around for along time. I’ve seen it happen a lot in the last week or two.

Crimsonorion

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I think you are referring to a bug that has been around for along time. I’ve seen it happen a lot in the last week or two.

Yea, NPC's will not be facing me and a fair distance away and it'll just keep cycling between Hidden and Detected. Its been around since Thieves Guild I think

notyuu wrote: »

Bonus fact: the "decreased detection radius" effect on nightmother, night terror, and draloc brae do infact stack with eachother, and given the set number requirements it is entirely possible to stack all 3 at once

My plan exactly

Djennku

notyuu wrote: »

Bonus fact: the "decreased detection radius" effect on nightmother, night terror, and draloc brae do infact stack with eachother, and given the set number requirements it is entirely possible to stack all 3 at once

So does Khajiit's racial passive and the green CP one. At that point, it's a bit overkill though.

AnduinTryggva

To be honest I don't much like how invisibility and stealth works in ESO.

First, guards still know exactly where you are they just get a "don't attack" order from the game it seems.

Second, while I can understand that one loses invisibility when pickpocketing it is not comprehensible why one should lose it upon lockpicking or interacting with items unless someone else is really close by.

I see invisibility as implemented not really as invisibility but an illusion. One makes others believe you are not there. But yet, the faint sound created by lockpicking etc. should still not make the illusion fail, specifically when it occurs in a noisy surrounding like a market place etc.

zaria

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

To be honest I don't much like how invisibility and stealth works in ESO.

First, guards still know exactly where you are they just get a "don't attack" order from the game it seems.

Second, while I can understand that one loses invisibility when pickpocketing it is not comprehensible why one should lose it upon lockpicking or interacting with items unless someone else is really close by.

Its an bug who make you appear to be visible then opening doors and some other stuff, think this is just an indicator bug.
As other says you can be totally invisible with sneak sets and the green cp. Done that and npc will push you around inside restricted zones.
Still you will get detected and suspicions messages then pick-pocketing, this only stop you from pickpocket.
If you are caught pick-pocketing you will be detected even is detection range is negative.
Same with using blade of woe, using it and npc within 5 meter something will detect you.

Kisakee

Crimsonorion wrote: »

Ahh ok thanks, wanted to know for sure before I reconstruct a stealth suit for...certain things...

If you're a Khajiit you'll only ever need Darloc Brae and Night Terror, your racial passive will do the rest. This way you can use the Darloc Brae 5 piece bonus, 4 pieces of Night Terror, a mythic item and a weapon or monster set of your choice.