<spoiler> eye of the infinite new archive tool

Necrotech_Master

so i finally finished 30 ghost dailies and unlocked the achievement requirement to buy the eye of the infinite

this item is a tool instead of a passive upgrade, that when used within the archive summons a little watchling pet

the pet has 365k max hp (not 100% sure if it can be attacked yet since i only used it up through arc 2), and seems to do 2 types of attacks, 1 is a basic beam attack called gaze, and a 3rd attack that does the lines in a cone (the hits of this seem to be around 4-6k non crit per hit) and an aoe knockback attack that actually hits reasonably hard (used when enemies are in melee range and does about 12-15k non crit dmg) (note: the dmg and crit chance scale off your stats like normal pets)

the tool has a fairly long summon animation, something like 10-12 seconds so its best to do this before combat, or even in the archive main hub

one downside of the long summon animation is the pet does have to be resummoned after bonus portals, as most of those despawn all pets/companions (after doing another run, it looks like it respawns itself, not sure if it randomly bugged on one and didnt respawn properly)

personally i like having the pet, though i kind of wish you werent locked into the summoning animation for 10-12 seconds

this is what the pet looks like

edit: added additional details

katanagirl1

That sounds cool, I’ll find out what those ghost dailies are next week I guess.

Necrotech_Master

katanagirl1 wrote: »

That sounds cool, I’ll find out what those ghost dailies are next week I guess.

the ghost dailies are either kill 10 fabled, or kill 1 marauder

ESO_player123

Do you know by any chance if this watcher counts as a pet for Sorcs? Because if it does, it will screw up the Hardened ward if the heal is wanted.

Necrotech_Master

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Do you know by any chance if this watcher counts as a pet for Sorcs? Because if it does, it will screw up the Hardened ward if the heal is wanted.

have not tested it though i assume it does count as a pet

from what i can tell the watchling does not take dmg, as it was able to sit next to a marauder in the aoes and not take any hits

ESO_player123

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Do you know by any chance if this watcher counts as a pet for Sorcs? Because if it does, it will screw up the Hardened ward if the heal is wanted.

have not tested it though i assume it does count as a pet

from what i can tell the watchling does not take dmg, as it was able to sit next to a marauder in the aoes and not take any hits

Thanks. I do not know when I will be able to test this since I'm not doing more than one daily per day.

Necrotech_Master

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Do you know by any chance if this watcher counts as a pet for Sorcs? Because if it does, it will screw up the Hardened ward if the heal is wanted.

have not tested it though i assume it does count as a pet

from what i can tell the watchling does not take dmg, as it was able to sit next to a marauder in the aoes and not take any hits

Thanks. I do not know when I will be able to test this since I'm not doing more than one daily per day.

i can test it tomorrow since i do have a sorc lol

Djennku

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Do you know by any chance if this watcher counts as a pet for Sorcs? Because if it does, it will screw up the Hardened ward if the heal is wanted.

He counts as a pet for bonuses regarding pets, but does not negate the heal of hardened ward. Not sure if it's intended or not. Haven't used the new Bacon of Oblivion set so I don't know if it affects that too.

Necrotech_Master

apparently the little guy can take dmg, but its really hard to tell hes taking anything with 365k hp lol

Ilumia

Ohhh nice.
So is it an actual combat non-combat pet?

Ok, I see that doesn't make much sense, let me rephrase: does it take the non-combat pets spot?

Djennku

Ilumia wrote: »

Ohhh nice.
So is it an actual combat non-combat pet?

Ok, I see that doesn't make much sense, let me rephrase: does it take the non-combat pets spot?

No. It, as well as any other pet in the game, can be active silmultaneously, seeing as they are separate ablities. They aren't like cosmetic pets or companions/assistants.

Blackbird_V

If it's a pet then I wonder if Well Trained Command vision affects it. If so, that's honestly not the worst vision to take in some circumstances.

SkaiFaith

Just to have all relevant infos about it on this page, could anyone type how many fortunes the new tool costs?
I'm on console and can't see it yet...
Thanks!

Maitsukas

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Just to have all relevant infos about it on this page, could anyone type how many fortunes the new tool costs?
I'm on console and can't see it yet...
Thanks!

It can be purchased from Filer Tezurs for 15k Fortunes. Full requirements for purchasing it are as follows:

• Obtain all new Verses added with U43
• Obtain all new Visions added with U43
• Obtain all Necrotic Visions and transform into the Undead Avatar
• Kill the two new Marauders (Werewolf and Minotaur)
• Complete 30 Daily Quests for Esalinwe, the new ghostly NPC located between Malkhest and Filer Ool (Kill 10 Fabled/Kill 1 Marauder)

SkaiFaith

Maitsukas wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Just to have all relevant infos about it on this page, could anyone type how many fortunes the new tool costs?
I'm on console and can't see it yet...
Thanks!

It can be purchased from Filer Tezurs for 15k Fortunes. Full requirements for purchasing it are as follows:

• Obtain all new Verses added with U43
• Obtain all new Visions added with U43
• Obtain all Necrotic Visions and transform into the Undead Avatar
• Kill the two new Marauders (Werewolf and Minotaur)
• Complete 30 Daily Quests for Esalinwe, the new ghostly NPC located between Malkhest and Filer Ool (Kill 10 Fabled/Kill 1 Marauder)

Thank you very much!
It feels like those achievements will take a while to complete...

Ilumia

Djennku wrote: »

Ilumia wrote: »

Ohhh nice.
So is it an actual combat non-combat pet?

Ok, I see that doesn't make much sense, let me rephrase: does it take the non-combat pets spot?

No. It, as well as any other pet in the game, can be active silmultaneously, seeing as they are separate ablities. They aren't like cosmetic pets or companions/assistants.

Okay, thanks for the info. I'll still take it, I hate combat pets in groups, it gets messy fast, but I really love having them around for solo combat.

Sarannah

Got the new eye of the infinite upgrade myself today, played with it through arc 4. Was curious to find out what the upgrade was exactly, so I rushed a bit to get it.

This upgrade is fun, but the watcher is not much of a damage dealer. It seems the watcher is more made for crowd control(knockbacks/stuns/etc). Damage-wise I barely notice him doing anything, even in the lower arcs. ZOS could triple his damage and I still hardly would notice if he was there.

Haven't noticed him dying or even taking damage. He did de-spawn after I died though.

Suggestion for an upgrade to this IA upgrade: Add an ultimate to the watcher, which the player can manually activate. Something different, but damagewise similar to the meteor from the fire avatar/fabled.

Though the upgrade itself is fun, the usefulness isn't much.

PS: We need many more upgrades. Even if they are just fun upgrades.

katanagirl1

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Maitsukas wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Just to have all relevant infos about it on this page, could anyone type how many fortunes the new tool costs?
I'm on console and can't see it yet...
Thanks!

It can be purchased from Filer Tezurs for 15k Fortunes. Full requirements for purchasing it are as follows:

• Obtain all new Verses added with U43
• Obtain all new Visions added with U43
• Obtain all Necrotic Visions and transform into the Undead Avatar
• Kill the two new Marauders (Werewolf and Minotaur)
• Complete 30 Daily Quests for Esalinwe, the new ghostly NPC located between Malkhest and Filer Ool (Kill 10 Fabled/Kill 1 Marauder)

Thank you very much!
It feels like those achievements will take a while to complete...

Yes, I am not sure when/if I will get that then. I still have a few visions in the old list that I have not got yet.

Do you have to have killed Gothmau too?

ESO_player123

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Maitsukas wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Just to have all relevant infos about it on this page, could anyone type how many fortunes the new tool costs?
I'm on console and can't see it yet...
Thanks!

It can be purchased from Filer Tezurs for 15k Fortunes. Full requirements for purchasing it are as follows:

• Obtain all new Verses added with U43
• Obtain all new Visions added with U43
• Obtain all Necrotic Visions and transform into the Undead Avatar
• Kill the two new Marauders (Werewolf and Minotaur)
• Complete 30 Daily Quests for Esalinwe, the new ghostly NPC located between Malkhest and Filer Ool (Kill 10 Fabled/Kill 1 Marauder)

Thank you very much!
It feels like those achievements will take a while to complete...

Yes, I am not sure when/if I will get that then. I still have a few visions in the old list that I have not got yet.

Do you have to have killed Gothmau too?

No, you need to kill the two new marauders for this one.

Necrotech_Master

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Maitsukas wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Just to have all relevant infos about it on this page, could anyone type how many fortunes the new tool costs?
I'm on console and can't see it yet...
Thanks!

It can be purchased from Filer Tezurs for 15k Fortunes. Full requirements for purchasing it are as follows:

• Obtain all new Verses added with U43
• Obtain all new Visions added with U43
• Obtain all Necrotic Visions and transform into the Undead Avatar
• Kill the two new Marauders (Werewolf and Minotaur)
• Complete 30 Daily Quests for Esalinwe, the new ghostly NPC located between Malkhest and Filer Ool (Kill 10 Fabled/Kill 1 Marauder)

Thank you very much!
It feels like those achievements will take a while to complete...

the longest part was the 30 ghost dailies

i finished all of the other achievements within like 3 or so days of the patch releasing, but doing basically 30 separate runs takes a lot longer

Necrotech_Master

Sarannah wrote: »

Got the new eye of the infinite upgrade myself today, played with it through arc 4. Was curious to find out what the upgrade was exactly, so I rushed a bit to get it.

This upgrade is fun, but the watcher is not much of a damage dealer. It seems the watcher is more made for crowd control(knockbacks/stuns/etc). Damage-wise I barely notice him doing anything, even in the lower arcs. ZOS could triple his damage and I still hardly would notice if he was there.

Haven't noticed him dying or even taking damage. He did de-spawn after I died though.

Suggestion for an upgrade to this IA upgrade: Add an ultimate to the watcher, which the player can manually activate. Something different, but damagewise similar to the meteor from the fire avatar/fabled.

Though the upgrade itself is fun, the usefulness isn't much.

PS: We need many more upgrades. Even if they are just fun upgrades.

the meteor from the fabled mystic does like 250k dmg, you can already do about 2-3x that with the iron atro avatar

if that was something the pet could do that would be insanely OP, not to mention you would then need to somehow bind a key to activate it or slot an ultimate

the watcher does decent dmg based on my testing, its not terrible, and not OP either

SilverBride

Can this pet be used along with a Sorcerer pet or does it have to be one or the other?

Djennku

SilverBride wrote: »

Can this pet be used along with a Sorcerer pet or does it have to be one or the other?

Djennku wrote: »

Ilumia wrote: »

Ohhh nice.
So is it an actual combat non-combat pet?

Ok, I see that doesn't make much sense, let me rephrase: does it take the non-combat pets spot?

No. It, as well as any other pet in the game, can be active silmultaneously, seeing as they are separate ablities. They aren't like cosmetic pets or companions/assistants.

Necrotech_Master

SilverBride wrote: »

Can this pet be used along with a Sorcerer pet or does it have to be one or the other?

its spawned separately using a tool item from the collection menu and acts as its own entity

Necrotech_Master

Blackbird_V wrote: »

If it's a pet then I wonder if Well Trained Command vision affects it. If so, that's honestly not the worst vision to take in some circumstances.

with the other vision, apocryphal emissary, and this that means basically anyone can get 2 "pets" regardless of class or build

which does help with making the pet vision more useful

the tier 1 apocryphal emissary pet is kind of weakish, the 2nd tier is actually pretty decent, i havent seen the 3rd tier yet, its never given me more than 2 stacks in a single run yet lol

if you have a companion with you, you get a 2nd copy of the apocryphal emissary too (for an extra 3rd pet if you also have eye of the infinite active too)

then theres also undead avatar which if you get that the special ability allows it to summon like a ton of skeletons all considered pets as well

Sarannah

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Got the new eye of the infinite upgrade myself today, played with it through arc 4. Was curious to find out what the upgrade was exactly, so I rushed a bit to get it.

This upgrade is fun, but the watcher is not much of a damage dealer. It seems the watcher is more made for crowd control(knockbacks/stuns/etc). Damage-wise I barely notice him doing anything, even in the lower arcs. ZOS could triple his damage and I still hardly would notice if he was there.

Haven't noticed him dying or even taking damage. He did de-spawn after I died though.

Suggestion for an upgrade to this IA upgrade: Add an ultimate to the watcher, which the player can manually activate. Something different, but damagewise similar to the meteor from the fire avatar/fabled.

Though the upgrade itself is fun, the usefulness isn't much.

PS: We need many more upgrades. Even if they are just fun upgrades.

the meteor from the fabled mystic does like 250k dmg, you can already do about 2-3x that with the iron atro avatar

if that was something the pet could do that would be insanely OP, not to mention you would then need to somehow bind a key to activate it or slot an ultimate

the watcher does decent dmg based on my testing, its not terrible, and not OP either

Don't think that would be overpowered actually. When you consider players want to get to the higher arcs faster, this would help with that. And it needs to be unlocked. A massive ultimate every minute wouldn't be a problem. (Note: No new keybindings would have to be set, just use the X as with the avatar's specials.)

Without a save function, which many players seem to want, getting to the higher arcs faster would be a second best option in my opinion. Not only would this help those high arc players get to the higher arcs faster, this would also help new/inexperienced players clear the lower arcs they are having issues with better.

Having a powerful ultimate every minute on this eye of the infinite watcher would be perfect. Especially as this upgrade needs quite some achievements and effort to unlock it, so it should be powerful.

Anyways, even without a powerful ultimate the watcher is still a fun upgrade. We need more upgrades!