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Exploits are not Cheating!
JimFord047
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Oh , That Title got your interest!
YES THEY ARE! your gaining an advantage at the expense of others and when it goes Wrong, EVERYONE SUFFERS!!
Here is a good example,
An Operating system has a Kernel, the Kernel for all intents and purposes is the Heart of the system!
You write a Piece of Software like an anti virus, that comes in after the Kernel but before everything else, It's a Smart idea, because everything after your software is now scanned, so even the next Kernel driver like the Graphics card cannot get infected without your seeing....
You give your "software" to the Operating system Creator, who tests it thoroughly and agrees that IN THIS FORM, it is perfect, they then certify your software to run on their kernel and is now a Registered System Component!
But .... Every time you want to update your Virus Code, you need to get it Certified , that takes Days / Weeks / Months, not good for your anti virus app.
So You create an exploit, and create an Injector into your verified System |Component , this means that your "Software" does not change, only the definitions being pulled in! if anything is detected, your Software can Issue a STOP in the kernel, and then run the FULL Package as Raised Priority and clean the Problem, Once its Clean, you can then allow the rest of the Device Drivers to come in, after that the Shell can Start and after that Any Other Software can be started and run!!
Then You make an OOPS, You forget to put any data into your injector!
Your EXPLOIT APP now Stalls, it cannot progress as it does not have the injector data that it requires, so No Graphics Driver, No Disc Drivers, No System drivers, Nothing.... The Kernel now Times out, and goes into Error Mode, Displaying the Error and the Offending Program, which since nothing is starting, is the Kernel Itself, and therefor it reports itself to you with its last action....
So No Harm???????
How's That Going for CROWDSTRIKE???? Because that's exactly what they did!!!
You Still Think Exploits are not a Cheat or Harm anyone, Can You Say For Definite, that the Exploit your looking at will not Harm the code around it????
Ie An Old Hack way of doing a game exploit , was to move the current Data from the CPU to the GPU Memory area, The Advantage you got was simply TIME, or less of it needed, everything you did happened 100 times faster than everyone else. Great for PVP, , , , BUT, When it came to end, the exploit would not / Could Not, go back from the GPU area to the CPU area, as the timing was out, result was the SAVE was slightly corrupt... and again the next time and so forth... after time, the only option was to destroy All of the corrupted saves, and start from ZERO again, meaning you lost EVERYTHING, you had done, just to get a couple of Hours Winning at PVP.
And before you think its untraceable , I will Just do it the Once, the CRC is also altered in the save Data, meaning that if someone looks at it,, they ARE going to see it... OOPS!!
Just Food for thought, with Mayhem coming up, and all of the temptations out there!!!! Is it really worth everything you have achieved until now???
Edited by ZOS_Volpe on July 25, 2024 6:42PM YES THEY ARE! your gaining an advantage at the expense of others and when it goes Wrong, EVERYONE SUFFERS!!
Here is a good example,
An Operating system has a Kernel, the Kernel for all intents and purposes is the Heart of the system!
You write a Piece of Software like an anti virus, that comes in after the Kernel but before everything else, It's a Smart idea, because everything after your software is now scanned, so even the next Kernel driver like the Graphics card cannot get infected without your seeing....
You give your "software" to the Operating system Creator, who tests it thoroughly and agrees that IN THIS FORM, it is perfect, they then certify your software to run on their kernel and is now a Registered System Component!
But .... Every time you want to update your Virus Code, you need to get it Certified , that takes Days / Weeks / Months, not good for your anti virus app.
So You create an exploit, and create an Injector into your verified System |Component , this means that your "Software" does not change, only the definitions being pulled in! if anything is detected, your Software can Issue a STOP in the kernel, and then run the FULL Package as Raised Priority and clean the Problem, Once its Clean, you can then allow the rest of the Device Drivers to come in, after that the Shell can Start and after that Any Other Software can be started and run!!
Then You make an OOPS, You forget to put any data into your injector!
Your EXPLOIT APP now Stalls, it cannot progress as it does not have the injector data that it requires, so No Graphics Driver, No Disc Drivers, No System drivers, Nothing.... The Kernel now Times out, and goes into Error Mode, Displaying the Error and the Offending Program, which since nothing is starting, is the Kernel Itself, and therefor it reports itself to you with its last action....
So No Harm???????
How's That Going for CROWDSTRIKE???? Because that's exactly what they did!!!
You Still Think Exploits are not a Cheat or Harm anyone, Can You Say For Definite, that the Exploit your looking at will not Harm the code around it????
Ie An Old Hack way of doing a game exploit , was to move the current Data from the CPU to the GPU Memory area, The Advantage you got was simply TIME, or less of it needed, everything you did happened 100 times faster than everyone else. Great for PVP, , , , BUT, When it came to end, the exploit would not / Could Not, go back from the GPU area to the CPU area, as the timing was out, result was the SAVE was slightly corrupt... and again the next time and so forth... after time, the only option was to destroy All of the corrupted saves, and start from ZERO again, meaning you lost EVERYTHING, you had done, just to get a couple of Hours Winning at PVP.
And before you think its untraceable , I will Just do it the Once, the CRC is also altered in the save Data, meaning that if someone looks at it,, they ARE going to see it... OOPS!!
Just Food for thought, with Mayhem coming up, and all of the temptations out there!!!! Is it really worth everything you have achieved until now???
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AnduinTryggva✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can somebody translate?
As far as I understand there are dudes who make ESO run on GPU rather than CPU to be faster than the CPU folks but at some point this moving to GPU is detected and everything is reverted to the state before that thingy was moved to GPU. And the question of OP is if this moving to GPU for temporarily having the upper hand in PvP during event is worthwhile if what has been gained thru it will eventually be lost.
Is this correct translation?
Not at all sure about it.5 -
JimFord047✭✭✭Roughly - Yes, But also NO. you would have to look at their coding for both the injector and the ESO Code. if using a forced exploit.
You COULD put everything up, but since its an online game, the variables are always refreshing, once that happens the exploit would be out of memory area and you Would revert back to the ESO way, but there is an "Error in the ESO data structure" that you could in theory extend the Exploit, the Error is not an error but a way of refreshing the data, as you cannot keep that data stack expanding. So the only way to do this is a REFRESH.
A Way around the refresh is to increase the amount of Data Stored Locally , to avoid the ESO requirement, or you could simply do a RELOADUI which would refresh the exploit as well....
Principally the above is the correct way of doing this, but it all depends upon the Exploit / external data and coding translations .
if its just a simple ESO encode exploit, not including an external injector, then your going to have to repeat the exploit multiple times as the code changes......
But same result, its still a Cheat, and for conformity should not be done!!!!
With Any large Coded package, there are going to be Holes. Some are deliberate, ie reserving and area to allow events to be included , or for a planned future release or update. this is unfortunately where most exploits also come from.
AS I SAID its an OLD hack way of doing it, and that's always going to end Badly!
Best advice, Simply do not do it!2 -
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What is an ellipsis of commas called?PC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
GM of Imperial Gold Reserve trading guild (started in 2017) since 2/20224 -
JimFord047✭✭✭karthrag_inak wrote: »Khajiit is curious.
What is an ellipsis of commas called?
LMAO
Officially
A comma ellipsis is a punctuation mark used in informal writing to convey tone. It's a new mark that's not widely used and can be difficult to document. The comma ellipsis may be an alternative to the period ellipsis, which is a more formal way to pause or trail off. Because commas aren't periods, they draw more attention to themselves, which can signal to the reader that something else is happening.
Unofficially
its a blind disabled person with a pernickety corsair K95 Keyboard2 -
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There are a lot more bad players who blame their losses on nonsense, than there are actual cheaters.JimFord047 wrote: »Just Food for thought, with Mayhem coming up, and all of the temptations out there!!!! Is it really worth everything you have achieved until now???PC/NA || CP/Cyro || RIP soft caps9 -
Digibrax✭✭✭If it's ingame it is not cheating – it's a feature.Edited by Digibrax on July 23, 2024 1:35PM0
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Heh.
FIFY: If it is in game, and intended by the developers, then it is not cheating.1 -
Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭they moved virtually all of the game process off the clientside like 7+ years ago
part of the reason why ESO pvp has a lot of lag at times because all of the processing is serverside, your client is just handling your inputs to the server and rendering of the info being fed to itplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
feel free to stop by and use the facilities1 -
N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Holycannoli wrote: »I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.
Botting (using software to control the character) is still a thing on PC... I don't remember the last time I seen a farming bot because I don't go looking for them. But I have seen players with multiple accounts that will park their low level characters near wayshrines and busy areas. These characters stand in one place, occasionally jump, post guild advertisements in zone chat, and if you walk past the character it will sometimes send you a guild invite. That is a bot unattended by the player and being controlled by software.
It shouldn't take an Engineer for these players To Get Caught and finally be removed from the game.1 -
RexyCat✭✭✭✭Holycannoli wrote: »I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.
Botting (using software to control the character) is still a thing on PC... I don't remember the last time I seen a farming bot because I don't go looking for them. But I have seen players with multiple accounts that will park their low level characters near wayshrines and busy areas. These characters stand in one place, occasionally jump, post guild advertisements in zone chat, and if you walk past the character it will sometimes send you a guild invite. That is a bot unattended by the player and being controlled by software.
It shouldn't take an Engineer for these players To Get Caught and finally be removed from the game.
How do you even know if that character isn't controlled by a human when it "jumps" or someone are sending invites?
Please, stop making wild speculation and show documentation for what you describe as "bots".
What you are targeting with those accusation is players that have several accounts and are playing this game.
You have no way to know who is who and who is owning what account as a normal player in this game.
Only Devs and ZoS Admin have access to what accounts that are registered and what they do and where those accounts are in game.
There are also tools (look up in Settings) to in game to decline invites you don't want and even the ability to go "offline" (use Activity Finder and put yourself offline and you will not get any messages from random people, everybody playing this game can do this if they want to avoid messages from strangers or getting invitation that they don't want).0 -
RexyCat✭✭✭✭AnduinTryggva wrote: »Can somebody translate?
As far as I understand there are dudes who make ESO run on GPU rather than CPU to be faster than the CPU folks but at some point this moving to GPU is detected and everything is reverted to the state before that thingy was moved to GPU. And the question of OP is if this moving to GPU for temporarily having the upper hand in PvP during event is worthwhile if what has been gained thru it will eventually be lost.
Is this correct translation?
Not at all sure about it.
You can't move code around between system RAM to GPU VRAM and run it from there as code that are used in VRAM is very different from code intended for CPU and it would also add even more time from being fetched from VRAM back to CPU to be run as GPU can't run general purpose code as it have been designed to handle very different task then CPU.
Someone have had to much too drink or had bad day doing PvP and wanted some attention I guess.3 -
NoticeMeArkay✭✭✭✭✭
✭Holycannoli wrote: »I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.
Botting (using software to control the character) is still a thing on PC... I don't remember the last time I seen a farming bot because I don't go looking for them. But I have seen players with multiple accounts that will park their low level characters near wayshrines and busy areas. These characters stand in one place, occasionally jump, post guild advertisements in zone chat, and if you walk past the character it will sometimes send you a guild invite. That is a bot unattended by the player and being controlled by software.
It shouldn't take an Engineer for these players To Get Caught and finally be removed from the game.
How do you even know if that character isn't controlled by a human when it "jumps" or someone are sending invites?
Please, stop making wild speculation and show documentation for what you describe as "bots".
What you are targeting with those accusation is players that have several accounts and are playing this game.
You have no way to know who is who and who is owning what account as a normal player in this game.
Only Devs and ZoS Admin have access to what accounts that are registered and what they do and where those accounts are in game.
There are also tools (look up in Settings) to in game to decline invites you don't want and even the ability to go "offline" (use Activity Finder and put yourself offline and you will not get any messages from random people, everybody playing this game can do this if they want to avoid messages from strangers or getting invitation that they don't want).
Hi, player here who regularily reports actual bots in the Alik'r zone on PC EU and records said bots.
There is a certain way which allows one player to shove another one around and away from their source of income.
When said targeted players keep on spamming their skills in the exact same order over and over again, while I spend 2 minutes pushing them away from a dolmen where they try to farm XP by spamming 'Regeneration', you can very well assume there is no actual person sitting behind that keyboard pushing those buttons.
Even less so if I can watch them, thanks to my efforts, healing a bunch of palm trees and goats rather than actual players, while I camp the dolmen nearby for another hour to get my fighters guild skill line up.
There are some very clear signs to tell who is a bot and who isn't. But spotting them takes of course a little bit of time and patience.
Or as the last bot I removed from the premise would put it:
Jump
Wait
Regeneration
Wait
Jump
Wait
Regeneration
Wait
Repeat.Edited by NoticeMeArkay on July 23, 2024 6:52PM2 -
N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Holycannoli wrote: »I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.
Botting (using software to control the character) is still a thing on PC... I don't remember the last time I seen a farming bot because I don't go looking for them. But I have seen players with multiple accounts that will park their low level characters near wayshrines and busy areas. These characters stand in one place, occasionally jump, post guild advertisements in zone chat, and if you walk past the character it will sometimes send you a guild invite. That is a bot unattended by the player and being controlled by software.
It shouldn't take an Engineer for these players To Get Caught and finally be removed from the game.
How do you even know if that character isn't controlled by a human when it "jumps" or someone are sending invites?
Please, stop making wild speculation and show documentation for what you describe as "bots".
What you are targeting with those accusation is players that have several accounts and are playing this game.
You have no way to know who is who and who is owning what account as a normal player in this game.
Only Devs and ZoS Admin have access to what accounts that are registered and what they do and where those accounts are in game.
There are also tools (look up in Settings) to in game to decline invites you don't want and even the ability to go "offline" (use Activity Finder and put yourself offline and you will not get any messages from random people, everybody playing this game can do this if they want to avoid messages from strangers or getting invitation that they don't want).
Nothing about what I said is a wild speculation. Other people have reported the same behavior from these players... I know a bot when I see one... I don't need to provide any proof, even if I did then it would just get censored for naming and shaming and then I would get into trouble. It's funny how that works...
Before trying to defend something, maybe YOU should do some research.
Edit:
And no, there are not any settings in game on PC that will block Guild or Friend invites. There are only settings for "Auto-Decline Duels" and "Auto-Decline Tales of Tribute Invites".Edited by N00BxV1 on July 23, 2024 7:18PM2 -
N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoticeMeArkay wrote: »Holycannoli wrote: »I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.
Botting (using software to control the character) is still a thing on PC... I don't remember the last time I seen a farming bot because I don't go looking for them. But I have seen players with multiple accounts that will park their low level characters near wayshrines and busy areas. These characters stand in one place, occasionally jump, post guild advertisements in zone chat, and if you walk past the character it will sometimes send you a guild invite. That is a bot unattended by the player and being controlled by software.
It shouldn't take an Engineer for these players To Get Caught and finally be removed from the game.
How do you even know if that character isn't controlled by a human when it "jumps" or someone are sending invites?
Please, stop making wild speculation and show documentation for what you describe as "bots".
What you are targeting with those accusation is players that have several accounts and are playing this game.
You have no way to know who is who and who is owning what account as a normal player in this game.
Only Devs and ZoS Admin have access to what accounts that are registered and what they do and where those accounts are in game.
There are also tools (look up in Settings) to in game to decline invites you don't want and even the ability to go "offline" (use Activity Finder and put yourself offline and you will not get any messages from random people, everybody playing this game can do this if they want to avoid messages from strangers or getting invitation that they don't want).
Hi, player here who regularily reports actual bots in the Alik'r zone on PC EU and records said bots.
There is a certain way which allows one player to shove another one around and away from their source of income.
When said targeted players keep on spamming their skills in the exact same order over and over again, while I spend 2 minutes pushing them away from a dolmen where they try to farm XP by spamming 'Regeneration', you can very well assume there is no actual person sitting behind that keyboard pushing those buttons.
Even less so if I can watch them, thanks to my efforts, healing a bunch of palm trees and goats rather than actual players, while I camp the dolmen nearby for another hour to get my fighters guild skill line up.
There are some very clear signs to tell who is a bot and who isn't. But spotting them takes of course a little bit of time and patience.
Or as the last bot I removed from the premise would put it:
Jump
Wait
Regeneration
Wait
Jump
Wait
Regeneration
Wait
Repeat.
I have seen a bunch of these as well. The players are AFK and their characters will be using abilities that might seem random, but if you watch long enough you can see a pattern. They are either being controlled by macros or using scripting software like AutoHotKey.0 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Then you see bots its very obvious that they are. If they run an farming route you can run ahead killing mobs and they will not react. Years since I seen any on PC but as I understand it has been more of an issue on console as its much harder.Holycannoli wrote: »I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.
Botting (using software to control the character) is still a thing on PC... I don't remember the last time I seen a farming bot because I don't go looking for them. But I have seen players with multiple accounts that will park their low level characters near wayshrines and busy areas. These characters stand in one place, occasionally jump, post guild advertisements in zone chat, and if you walk past the character it will sometimes send you a guild invite. That is a bot unattended by the player and being controlled by software.
It shouldn't take an Engineer for these players To Get Caught and finally be removed from the game.
How do you even know if that character isn't controlled by a human when it "jumps" or someone are sending invites?
Please, stop making wild speculation and show documentation for what you describe as "bots".
What you are targeting with those accusation is players that have several accounts and are playing this game.
You have no way to know who is who and who is owning what account as a normal player in this game.
Only Devs and ZoS Admin have access to what accounts that are registered and what they do and where those accounts are in game.
There are also tools (look up in Settings) to in game to decline invites you don't want and even the ability to go "offline" (use Activity Finder and put yourself offline and you will not get any messages from random people, everybody playing this game can do this if they want to avoid messages from strangers or getting invitation that they don't want).
You need an jailbreak console and an cheat program for eso for that console.
On PC you just need an cheat program for eso so ZOS ignored this for an long time on console.
Now its other exploits, some might involve bugs others is stuff like boosting in Cyrodil, you solo defend an keep and your friends or workers on another faction keeps it in contact to boost your defense score.
Flipping keeps is another there you and another faction swap an keep not bother to repair doors, just flip flags and leave.
First is good for getting emperor, second to farm AP.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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PC-EU @maitsukas
Posting the Infinite Archive and Imperial City Weekly Vendor updates.
Also trying out new Main Quests, Companions, ToT decks, Events and Styles on PTS.2 -
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I say an group of npc failing in sitting as an response.
its still an skill issue.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
JimFord047✭✭✭AnduinTryggva wrote: »Can somebody translate?
As far as I understand there are dudes who make ESO run on GPU rather than CPU to be faster than the CPU folks but at some point this moving to GPU is detected and everything is reverted to the state before that thingy was moved to GPU. And the question of OP is if this moving to GPU for temporarily having the upper hand in PvP during event is worthwhile if what has been gained thru it will eventually be lost.
Is this correct translation?
Not at all sure about it.
You can't move code around between system RAM to GPU VRAM and run it from there as code that are used in VRAM is very different from code intended for CPU and it would also add even more time from being fetched from VRAM back to CPU to be run as GPU can't run general purpose code as it have been designed to handle very different task then CPU.
Someone have had to much too drink or had bad day doing PvP and wanted some attention I guess.
LMAO, Not going to go into it, but Sorry Your Wrong on many levels
1. API developed by NVIDIA that allows developers to write C++-like code that runs on the GPU. the API can / Does move Code from CPU to GPU
2. running Code in the GPU Reserved Area has been a way to Boost software performance since GPU came onto the market
lol, Not enough Drink was had, here , Unfortunately! and I DID have a little run at PVP Yesterday, not as bad as I thought it would be, Helped take 2 farms, 1 mine and helped take 3 keeps... only died Once, a very good day for me in PVP since I do not do it lol
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JimFord047✭✭✭Highwayman wrote: »
LOL, GAVE ME A LITTLE HOLIDAY, then I had to start fixing things. but its back to writing the software on Thursday, BUT I HAD FREE TIME lol0 -
the1andonlyskwex✭✭✭✭✭
✭Holycannoli wrote: »I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.
Botting (using software to control the character) is still a thing on PC... I don't remember the last time I seen a farming bot because I don't go looking for them. But I have seen players with multiple accounts that will park their low level characters near wayshrines and busy areas. These characters stand in one place, occasionally jump, post guild advertisements in zone chat, and if you walk past the character it will sometimes send you a guild invite. That is a bot unattended by the player and being controlled by software.
It shouldn't take an Engineer for these players To Get Caught and finally be removed from the game.
Farm bots are super common on PSNA. I saw one yesterday. They all have autogenerated account names consisting of two words separated by an underscore and a number, they're pretty much all low level Sorcerers with a Familiar pet, and they follow a set route farming nodes (including ones that aren't currently spawned). There are also ones that farm mudcrabs by moving in big clusters (picture 10+ low level Sorcerers walking on top of each other) and spamming Lightning Form.
They're so easy to spot an algorithm could do it, and yet ZOS hasn't bothered, which annoys the heck out of me.3 -
the1andonlyskwex✭✭✭✭✭
✭JimFord047 wrote: »AnduinTryggva wrote: »Can somebody translate?
As far as I understand there are dudes who make ESO run on GPU rather than CPU to be faster than the CPU folks but at some point this moving to GPU is detected and everything is reverted to the state before that thingy was moved to GPU. And the question of OP is if this moving to GPU for temporarily having the upper hand in PvP during event is worthwhile if what has been gained thru it will eventually be lost.
Is this correct translation?
Not at all sure about it.
You can't move code around between system RAM to GPU VRAM and run it from there as code that are used in VRAM is very different from code intended for CPU and it would also add even more time from being fetched from VRAM back to CPU to be run as GPU can't run general purpose code as it have been designed to handle very different task then CPU.
Someone have had to much too drink or had bad day doing PvP and wanted some attention I guess.
LMAO, Not going to go into it, but Sorry Your Wrong on many levels
1. API developed by NVIDIA that allows developers to write C++-like code that runs on the GPU. the API can / Does move Code from CPU to GPU
2. running Code in the GPU Reserved Area has been a way to Boost software performance since GPU came onto the market
lol, Not enough Drink was had, here , Unfortunately! and I DID have a little run at PVP Yesterday, not as bad as I thought it would be, Helped take 2 farms, 1 mine and helped take 3 keeps... only died Once, a very good day for me in PVP since I do not do it lol
You can't just take CPU code and move it to the GPU and have it run. GPU code requires specialized instructions. At a minimum, you would need to recompile the code, and more likely you would need to completely rewrite it. It's definitely not as simple as copying an existing program from the CPU to the GPU and magically expecting it to run faster.4 -
JimFord047✭✭✭You Could (CAN) ON OLDER SYSTEMS , COBOL BASED, write the code, run the code, Move the code and then run it again, with only a cycle pause .
But yes for the Full Software it would be a recode, but the resultant data could be placed in an illegal area via a MOD.
I am In the Most cases referring to running the software in the Reserved Video Stack Area in the software structure , rather then MOVING IT to the GPU, the increase there is in Prioritisation over the CPU Does increase the performance.
Lots of ways to do tings, GPU being just one, and even there lots of ways to do it - Most as stable as Jello in the oven, being the main point..
Because your not aware, does not mean its not done!!! REFERENCE towards CROWDSTRIKE here lol0 -
GuuMoonRyoung✭✭✭✭Running ESO on GPU is not discouraged or considered exploit by ZOS. It is same for many other online games. Before you say "Then why did the devs not make it run on GPU from the beginning?" because 95% computers in the world don't have GPU but always have CPU. These days cpu producers like Intel and AMD are trying to make CPUs more GPU like, hence the APUs. Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA once said that their goal was to make a computer run only on GPU. That my friend, is the future.
I agree that exploits are cheating but running a game on GPU is not an exploit.2 -
reiverx✭✭✭✭✭the1andonlyskwex wrote: »Holycannoli wrote: »I haven’t seen a cheater in this game in years, and that includes bots.
Used to see bots in the beginning, and some people flying around Cyrodiil spamming spells. It must be nine years ago though.
Botting (using software to control the character) is still a thing on PC... I don't remember the last time I seen a farming bot because I don't go looking for them. But I have seen players with multiple accounts that will park their low level characters near wayshrines and busy areas. These characters stand in one place, occasionally jump, post guild advertisements in zone chat, and if you walk past the character it will sometimes send you a guild invite. That is a bot unattended by the player and being controlled by software.
It shouldn't take an Engineer for these players To Get Caught and finally be removed from the game.
Farm bots are super common on PSNA. I saw one yesterday. They all have autogenerated account names consisting of two words separated by an underscore and a number, they're pretty much all low level Sorcerers with a Familiar pet, and they follow a set route farming nodes (including ones that aren't currently spawned). There are also ones that farm mudcrabs by moving in big clusters (picture 10+ low level Sorcerers walking on top of each other) and spamming Lightning Form.
They're so easy to spot an algorithm could do it, and yet ZOS hasn't bothered, which annoys the heck out of me.
Yeah there's a bot in Craglorn near Dragonstar Arena that I see every day in the same place doing the same thing. There's also a bot farming mudcrabs in Grahtwood near Haven.0 -
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✭JimFord047 wrote: »Wallaofatext
I don't care much for the PvP thing but that explanation teached me very well about computers, you got some talent there.I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.2 -
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✭✭JimFord047 wrote: »karthrag_inak wrote: »Khajiit is curious.
What is an ellipsis of commas called?
LMAO
Officially
A comma ellipsis is a punctuation mark used in informal writing to convey tone. It's a new mark that's not widely used and can be difficult to document. The comma ellipsis may be an alternative to the period ellipsis, which is a more formal way to pause or trail off. Because commas aren't periods, they draw more attention to themselves, which can signal to the reader that something else is happening.
Unofficially
its a blind disabled person with a pernickety corsair K95 Keyboard
Thank you, carry on PC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
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