Chilling Explosion bugged

madman65

The brittle that I applied to the script is not working. I have an addon that display`s all buffs.

MJallday

How do you know the add on isn’t at fault?

madman65

I have an ice staff on the front bar with the new script. This is from the UESP website Debuffs: Applying Chilled status while actively holding a Frost Staff now applies Minor Brittle in addition to its other effects. Note that the Staff must be on your active bar when Chilled status is applied for this to proc. I have yet to see Brittle show in the CMX.

virtus753

madman65 wrote: »

I have an ice staff on the front bar with the new script. This is from the UESP website Debuffs: Applying Chilled status while actively holding a Frost Staff now applies Minor Brittle in addition to its other effects. Note that the Staff must be on your active bar when Chilled status is applied for this to proc. I have yet to see Brittle show in the CMX.

Can you clarify real quick: In the first post you said that you put the Brittle affix script on this skill. Is that correct, or are you counting on the frost damage to proc Chilled, which then (with an ice staff) procs Brittle?

madman65

I have applied the brittle to the script but I am not proccing it at all, Brittle should show in the CMX at some point but nothing plus I have another addon that constantly shows Critical Damage and that stays at the same amount. I don`t know how else to explain but Brittle is not working on the new script and/or not at all.

virtus753

madman65 wrote: »

I have applied the brittle to the script but I am not proccing it at all, Brittle should show in the CMX at some point but nothing plus I have another addon that constantly shows Critical Damage and that stays at the same amount. I don`t know how else to explain but Brittle is not working on the new script and/or not at all.

If you are using the dedicated Brittle affix script, then holding an ice staff and proccing Chilled are irrelevant. That’s why I asked for clarification on which way you were trying to proc it. I can try testing it later today.

virtus753

I'll continue to test, but are you sure you're looking under (De-)buffs (Out) and not (De-)Buffs (In) in CMX? You say you have a buff tracker, but does that also track debuffs on the target?

Brittle is a debuff, after all, and is not reflected in your personal crit damage statistic. It is enemy specific, not player specific, so anyone attacking that target gets the extra damage, while if you attack another target, you don't get that crit damage.

My first test was to check the Brittle affix independent of anything ice related. This is Shocking Explosion with immobilize and Brittle, used with a fire staff to eliminate all other sources of Brittle. Brittle works just fine and registers properly in CMX. You can see the crit damage went up from 4842 to 5111, reflecting an increase in crit damage from 80% to 90% (1.9/1.8 = 1.0555, which is the same result as 5111/4842).

And here is Minor Brittle being procced by Chilled from Frost Touch with an ice staff, independent of the Explosion skill:

After I changed Shocking Explosion to Chilling Explosion and equipped an ice staff, CMX shows Chilling Explosion's frost damage proccing Chilled, which reapplies Minor Brittle (at 8.166s):

(Yes, I realize CMX is showing "Shocking Explosion," but you can see it does frost damage from the color of the name and from the fact it procs Chill. I have noticed lots of issues with names and tooltips for Scribing skills not properly updating even in the native game, add-ons aside, but they work as intended.)

The first log is clearer in showing that Chilling Explosion can proc Chill, which then procs Brittle with an ice staff in hand. I included the second log there to show that despite the Minor Brittle being reapplied with Chill, the game correctly recognizes that Minor Brittle should still remain in effect because of the affix script's 20-second timer. It therefore properly drops only Minor Maim when Chill falls off.

Zoye

Thank you @virtus753 for always providing such detailed and thought-out replies and testing

madman65

Ok, it is working but not showing on the Critical Damage meter that I have on the UI. I`ll just have to check the CMX, Thank you!

virtus753

madman65 wrote: »

Ok, it is working but not showing on the Critical Damage meter that I have on the UI. I`ll just have to check the CMX, Thank you!

Right. To be honest, I wouldn’t expect a buff meter to reflect Brittle, as it isn’t one. You could ask the add-on author if it would be feasible to incorporate it, but it’s not as straightforward as copying the crit damage stat from the character page. When I did those tests, my crit damage stat didn’t change on my character sheet. The actual crit damage did change, but that wasn’t me being buffed—it was the target being debuffed.

It’s similar with other debuffs like Force of Nature, Line-Breaker (Alkosh), and Touch of Z’en, none of which is reflected in your stat page, as they’re specific to the target(s) affected.