Complaint Regarding the Scheduling of the PvP Mayhem

MarioMario · July 5

"Dear" ESO Team,

I would like to express my disappointment regarding the scheduling of the PvP Mayhem for the last week of July and the first week of August.
We (PvPers) only have two big events a year, and we rarely (almost never) see new content that enhances our gaming experience. This lack of attention towards the PvP community is already frustrating in itself.

Moreover, choosing a period of peak vacation time in Europe (60% according to EUROSTAT) for this events is another slap in the face to our minority. Many of us will be on holiday and unable to participate, further reducing the already limited opportunities to enjoy quality PvP content.

In the past, this event used to take place towards the end of June, which was a much more suitable time for many players. Moving it to a period with higher vacation rates feels inconsiderate of our community's needs.

I kindly ask you to consider our situation and reschedule the event to a more appropriate time. This would show greater respect for the PvP community and allow more players to participate.

I hope you will take this feedback seriously and do your best to make the game fairer and more inclusive for all types of players.

Best Regards,
Mario.

Dragonnord · July 5

So when events and content are not released on holidays, people complain because they are working, etc.

And when events and content are released on holidays, people complain because they're going on holidays?

I wonder when then.

Btw, gamers go on holidays?

VouxeTheMinotaur · July 5

MarioMario wrote: »

I kindly ask you to consider our situation and reschedule the event to a more appropriate time. This would show greater respect for the PvP community and allow more players to participate.

I can spare you the time/hope and say this is going to be a solid "no."

MarioMario · July 5

Dragonnord wrote: »

So when events and content are not released on holidays, people complain because they are working, etc.

And when events and content are released on holidays, people complain because they're going on holidays?

Can you link me some examples?
Or did you write this comment just for the sake of it?

LunaFlora · July 5

second Mayhem of the year has happened in June or July nearly every single time.

please just plan your vacation around it as it is unlikely that zos will change their event pattern.

RealLoveBVB · July 5

There are players who go on vacation in their holidays and there are players, who can finally play 24/7 in their holidays, because they can't off-holiday due to long work days.

Meiox · July 5

MarioMario wrote: »

"Dear" ESO Team,

I would like to express my disappointment regarding the scheduling of the PvP Mayhem for the last week of July and the first week of August.
We (PvPers) only have two big events a year, and we rarely (almost never) see new content that enhances our gaming experience. This lack of attention towards the PvP community is already frustrating in itself.

Moreover, choosing a period of peak vacation time in Europe (60% according to EUROSTAT) for this events is another slap in the face to our minority. Many of us will be on holiday and unable to participate, further reducing the already limited opportunities to enjoy quality PvP content.

In the past, this event used to take place towards the end of June, which was a much more suitable time for many players. Moving it to a period with higher vacation rates feels inconsiderate of our community's needs.

I kindly ask you to consider our situation and reschedule the event to a more appropriate time. This would show greater respect for the PvP community and allow more players to participate.

I hope you will take this feedback seriously and do your best to make the game fairer and more inclusive for all types of players.

Best Regards,
Mario.

how many pvp players did you ask if they are unhappy with the time frame?
Or do you just assume you speak for all?

xylena_lazarow · July 5

MarioMario wrote: »

choosing a period of peak vacation time

You're complaining that the video game event is being held during... the time you have available to play it?

TheMajority · July 5

I don't think 60% of europe is playing whitestrakes mayhem so I think we're ok. Kinda doubt that "many of" the people playing will be on holiday.

also it's traditional time for this event, it used to get called "midyear mayhem"

and also i appreciate it's during a time i can take off so don't speak for everybody else

no I'm not from EU or from US but others than EU play and need considered

Lixiviant · July 5

No matter what, there is always someone who is going to complain about something. It's held around the same time every year.

belial5221_ESO · July 5

Millions of players,and so many days in the year,so can't cater to all players at once.They base timings on data they see on their end.Just cause you can't do things at certain times,don't mean most others can't.It's a game,gotta realize you're not the only person in the game,lol.

Hapexamendios · July 5

Summer vacation and a peak traveling time in Japan too. Big deal.

Janni · July 5

It's not un-common for many people in the U.S. to go on holiday then too. It's been like this every year and I'm happy they actually announced it ahead of time rather than like a couple days before it starts.

sarahthes · July 5

The biggest raid competition of the year is during the same time as Mayhem but you don't hear us complaining.

Tommy_The_Gun · July 5

I have different complain.

I think there are too many PvP events during the year in general. Especially stuff focused around IC. Very specific content. Very specific zone. There are some who do like it, but vast majority of players do not like this place (to put it lightly). And PvP events force players to do that content. And even if people like PvP, they do not like type of PvP content that IC provides.

ZOS, give us a choice to do either Cyro or IC. 2 quests in IC, or 2 quests in Cyro or 1 in Cyro & 1 in IC. Having a choice is better than not having a choice. The way it is now it just crates unnecessary server traffic.

FlopsyPrince · July 5

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I have different complain.

I think there are too many PvP events during the year in general. Especially stuff focused around IC. Very specific content. Very specific zone. There are some who do like it, but vast majority of players do not like this place (to put it lightly). And PvP events force players to do that content. And even if people like PvP, they do not like type of PvP content that IC provides.

ZOS, give us a choice to do either Cyro or IC. 2 quests in IC, or 2 quests in Cyro or 1 in Cyro & 1 in IC. Having a choice is better than not having a choice. The way it is now it just crates unnecessary server traffic.

They have to reward the PvP gankers for playing! Lots of fresh PvE meat for them to gank during the event!

TaSheen · July 5

No one's forcing anyone to pvp. I don't touch it, even if I DO need tickets. I'd rather pay for tickets than mess with pvp ever again.

LittlePinkDot · July 5

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

MarioMario wrote: »

choosing a period of peak vacation time

You're complaining that the video game event is being held during... the time you have available to play it?

Most people fly to somewhere for vacation. Not just sit around at home.

I mean I guess if you're poor you're probably not going anywhere.

There should just be a winter mayhem event.

There's certainly a ton of PVE events. Don't see why PvP should only have 1 Cyrodiil event.

TheMajority · July 5

Winter is when MORE people fly out to see family and stuff for the holidays, why would that be any good? It wouldn't at all like nobody has time for that over the holidays

ClowdyAllDay · July 5

I grew up in a house where no matter what i chose it was wrong because i chose it. I had also a younger sibling (4 in fact) but one ion particular who could do no wrong.

This thread creeps me out. And i'll be 57 this month. Just WoW

SeaGtGruff · July 5

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

MarioMario wrote: »

choosing a period of peak vacation time

You're complaining that the video game event is being held during... the time you have available to play it?

Most people fly to somewhere for vacation. Not just sit around at home.

I mean I guess if you're poor you're probably not going anywhere.

There should just be a winter mayhem event.

There's certainly a ton of PVE events. Don't see why PvP should only have 1 Cyrodiil event.

Staycations are the best! Travel can be a real pain-- the planning, the paying, the packing, the driving, the walking, the flying, the unpacking, the paying, the repacking, the flying, the driving, the unpacking. By the time you're done with all that, you need a staycation just to recover!

EdjeSwift · July 5

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

MarioMario wrote: »

choosing a period of peak vacation time

You're complaining that the video game event is being held during... the time you have available to play it?

Most people fly to somewhere for vacation. Not just sit around at home.

I mean I guess if you're poor you're probably not going anywhere.

There should just be a winter mayhem event.

There's certainly a ton of PVE events. Don't see why PvP should only have 1 Cyrodiil event.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/category/event

You mean how we had one in February and now one in July/August? I count two, not one.

TaSheen · July 5

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

MarioMario wrote: »

choosing a period of peak vacation time

You're complaining that the video game event is being held during... the time you have available to play it?

Most people fly to somewhere for vacation. Not just sit around at home.

I mean I guess if you're poor you're probably not going anywhere.

There should just be a winter mayhem event.

There's certainly a ton of PVE events. Don't see why PvP should only have 1 Cyrodiil event.

Staycations are the best! Travel can be a real pain-- the planning, the paying, the packing, the driving, the walking, the flying, the unpacking, the paying, the repacking, the flying, the driving, the unpacking. By the time you're done with all that, you need a staycation just to recover!

Yeah. After seeing the airport madness on the news for every holiday lately, I'm SO not interested. What I do wish is that we weren't too old now to take a travel trailer away on long weekends here. That (and hunting trips in the fall/early winter) used to be our escape from the madness on long weekends here at home....

LunaFlora · July 5

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

MarioMario wrote: »

choosing a period of peak vacation time

You're complaining that the video game event is being held during... the time you have available to play it?

Most people fly to somewhere for vacation. Not just sit around at home.

I mean I guess if you're poor you're probably not going anywhere.

There should just be a winter mayhem event.

There's certainly a ton of PVE events. Don't see why PvP should only have 1 Cyrodiil event.

1 Mayhem event is in the Winter depending on your hemisphere.
either the January or July Mayhem.

edited to add:
it's been February as well instead of January, but that's still Winter/Summer.

last year's was May though that was originally planned for March

Reginald_leBlem · July 5

How inconsiderate of Zos not to cater specifically to OP when planning this event! I'm sure next year they will consult you before making their calendar.

Kartalin · July 5

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I have different complain.

I think there are too many PvP events during the year in general. Especially stuff focused around IC. Very specific content. Very specific zone. There are some who do like it, but vast majority of players do not like this place (to put it lightly). And PvP events force players to do that content. And even if people like PvP, they do not like type of PvP content that IC provides.

ZOS, give us a choice to do either Cyro or IC. 2 quests in IC, or 2 quests in Cyro or 1 in Cyro & 1 in IC. Having a choice is better than not having a choice. The way it is now it just crates unnecessary server traffic.

They have to reward the PvP gankers for playing! Lots of fresh PvE meat for them to gank during the event!

Blood for the blood god

valenwood_vegan · July 5

I guarantee that someone will be away on vacation, busy working, have an emergency or an internet outage that prevents them from playing the game, or *something*, at any possible time chosen for any event.

Sluggy · July 5

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

MarioMario wrote: »

choosing a period of peak vacation time

You're complaining that the video game event is being held during... the time you have available to play it?

Most people fly to somewhere for vacation. Not just sit around at home.

I mean I guess if you're poor you're probably not going anywhere.

There should just be a winter mayhem event.

There's certainly a ton of PVE events. Don't see why PvP should only have 1 Cyrodiil event.

The July event *is* a winter event. Just like the Janurary event *is* a summer event. The earth ain't flat

LaintalAy · July 6

MarioMario wrote: »

"Dear" ESO Team,

I would like to express my disappointment regarding the scheduling of the PvP Mayhem for the last week of July and the first week of August.
We (PvPers) only have two big events a year, and we rarely (almost never) see new content that enhances our gaming experience. This lack of attention towards the PvP community is already frustrating in itself.

Moreover, choosing a period of peak vacation time in Europe (60% according to EUROSTAT) for this events is another slap in the face to our minority. Many of us will be on holiday and unable to participate, further reducing the already limited opportunities to enjoy quality PvP content.

In the past, this event used to take place towards the end of June, which was a much more suitable time for many players. Moving it to a period with higher vacation rates feels inconsiderate of our community's needs.

I kindly ask you to consider our situation and reschedule the event to a more appropriate time. This would show greater respect for the PvP community and allow more players to participate.

I hope you will take this feedback seriously and do your best to make the game fairer and more inclusive for all types of players.

Best Regards,
Mario.

I'm sorry that your holiday plans are in ruins now. Thanks for alerting us all to this grave injustice.

moderatelyfatman · July 6

Have you considered a career in unemployment: you'll never miss an event again!

MarioMario · July 6

Lixiviant wrote: »

No matter what, there is always someone who is going to complain about something. It's held around the same time every year.

I understand your point. However, it's important to note that in previous years, this event took place towards middle of June (UESP) until last 2 years. This change in dates statistically impacts many PvP players, especially in Europe where vacation time is heavily concentrated. I hope the team can take this feedback into account for future planning

belial5221_ESO wrote: »

Millions of players,and so many days in the year,so can't cater to all players at once.They base timings on data they see on their end.Just cause you can't do things at certain times,don't mean most others can't.It's a game,gotta realize you're not the only person in the game,lol.

Thank you for your comment. I agree that it's difficult to please everyone, but my point was to highlight that the chosen period coincides with the summer vacation for a large part of players, as confirmed by EUROSTAT data. I understand there are many factors to consider, but it would be great if the team could also take this into account for future events.

Reginald_leBlem wrote: »

How inconsiderate of Zos not to cater specifically to OP when planning this event! I'm sure next year they will consult you before making their calendar.

My intention wasn't to ask ZOS to cater specifically to me but to highlight a scheduling conflict that may affects many PvP players due to the peak vacation period. Feedback from the community can help improve the event planning process for the future.

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

I guarantee that someone will be away on vacation, busy working, have an emergency or an internet outage that prevents them from playing the game, or *something*, at any possible time chosen for any event.

I understand that conflicts can arise at any time. However, avoiding peak vacation periods, like late July and early August, can help a larger number of PvP players participate. Given the high average age of the player base, many are more likely to be available when schools are open and during less common vacation times.

LaintalAy wrote: »

I'm sorry that your holiday plans are in ruins now. Thanks for alerting us all to this grave injustice.

LaintalAy, my holiday plans aren't ruined, I will have a wonderful time at my beach house with my three beautiful children and my wife, but I wanted to bring attention to an issue that affects a significant portion of the PvP player base. It's about finding a balance that allows as many players as possible to enjoy these limited events.

Conclusions:
ZOS does not release data, but based on the portion from Steam, it can be inferred that July and August are periods of low attendance. In my opinion, the timing seems intentionally chosen because PvPers are a minority. I find it unfair because there are PvE events every week.