Is dashing/sprinting with mounts bugged? (no speed increase)

Dragonnord · June 25

Sometimes trying to sprint with the mount (speed 60) just doesn't work. The mount does the animation as if it is going to sprint but the speed remains the same.

Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

virtus753 · June 25

Can you verify there is no actual speed increase using MiniMap by Fyrakin or Bandit UI?

Dragonnord · June 25

virtus753 wrote: »

Can you verify there is no actual speed increase using MiniMap by Fyrakin or Bandit UI?

I'll try to check next time it happens.

Btw, I already found two more persons (from my guilds) that are having the same issue.

virtus753 · June 25

Dragonnord wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Can you verify there is no actual speed increase using MiniMap by Fyrakin or Bandit UI?

I'll try to check next time it happens.

Btw, I already found two more persons (from my guilds) that are having the same issue.

Yeah, there was a change last update where you no longer see the animation go faster, which will make the mount feel slower. So far I haven't found an actual change to the speed itself. That's why I'm curious about what the meters say.

irswat · June 25

Was wondering the same. Seems slow

SeaGtGruff · June 25

virtus753 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Can you verify there is no actual speed increase using MiniMap by Fyrakin or Bandit UI?

I'll try to check next time it happens.

Btw, I already found two more persons (from my guilds) that are having the same issue.

Yeah, there was a change last update where you no longer see the animation go faster, which will make the mount feel slower. So far I haven't found an actual change to the speed itself. That's why I'm curious about what the meters say.

I was wondering about that, because my mount speed from Major Gallup doesn't seem the same, possibly because it doesn't sound as fast as it used to (hoofbeats per second)-- but I knew the animation had been changed, so I wasn't sure if it's just a visual/auditory difference and the actual speed is okay, or what.

Ezhh · June 25

A couple of days back I had a bug where sprinting was fully disabled, both on foot and mounted. Reloading UI didn't fix it, and I needed to fully restart the game to enable it again.

It was definitely bugged and not a perception issue because I tested quite a bit and could clearly see there was no stam drain.

This happened in Cyrodiil, is the only time I ever encountered this, and I have no idea if it might be related.

katanagirl1 · June 25

Ezhh wrote: »

A couple of days back I had a bug where sprinting was fully disabled, both on foot and mounted. Reloading UI didn't fix it, and I needed to fully restart the game to enable it again.

It was definitely bugged and not a perception issue because I tested quite a bit and could clearly see there was no stam drain.

This happened in Cyrodiil, is the only time I ever encountered this, and I have no idea if it might be related.

One of those infinite debuff skills with the 47k days on it can cause this. I think it’s a streak debuff.

SonOfSoma · June 25

I was wondering about this too.
Running and mount speed seem very slow now.

fizzylu · June 25

I've been seeing issues with this, but it's more of a situation where my mount speeds up when I first press the sprint key but then weirdly slows down right after. Sometimes it seems to feel even slower than my base mount speed and then I just have to try to press my sprint key multiple times to get it back to normal. After that little process, usually the next attempt I make to sprint works the way it should. So yeah.... I'd say something is broken.
It also did this for me even before the changes to the mount animations, it's just happening far more frequently (not that I think the animations are to blame). Along with the weird issue where sometimes when you go to sprint (and occasionally when dismounting), your character/mount will just dash forward faster than base run and sprint in a very glitched out way.

BXR_Lonestar · June 25

Dragonnord wrote: »

Sometimes trying to sprint with the mount (speed 60) just doesn't work. The mount does the animation as if it is going to sprint but the speed remains the same.

Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

This isn't just a thing on mounts, but also when you are dismounted. I find myself struggling to keep up with groups in Cyrodil when ordinarily I had no issues on the same character pre-patch. It seems when I go to run, my character simply does not sprint, and it takes multiple times before he actually sprints. I don't know if this is a bug, or perhaps an intentional stealth sprint cooldown that they added to the game?

ellmarie · July 15

I posted about this before, no response. Especially in the all the new DLCs, always something catching me and slowing me down. On a few of my characters, I have that perk under Dark Brotherhood that decreases enemies slowing you down, but it's even on those characters too that I'm experiencing slowness. Been awhile now.

VouxeTheMinotaur · July 15

I'm having a problem with mounts where I would press the button to begin sprinting, and both my mount and character do the usual animation followed by the "hyeah!" SFX that comes when starting to sprint, but i do not move faster and instead have this animation and SFX happen repeatedly literally every second while sprinting.

I'm not tapping sprint repeatedly; it does this on its own once sprint has been initiated.

and weirdly enough, this only happens on my arcanist character and his mounts. everyone else is fine and sprints normally with speed and all.

ghost_bg_ESO · July 15

couple observation on galloping
- in high ping it will show with delay (and there is a looong discussion about current problems with servers);
- pressing button sometimes registering on server but not changing speed and has to press 2 times more - turning it on and off

(stamina bar not depleting);
- (this one is not measured just observation) absolutely same build character mount speed seems slower on xsx compared to pc.
- and cyrodiil ... well there speed is "relative"...

(passives or cp not been accounted on different instances is not new, just mount speed is recent)

MidniteOwl1913 · July 15

Yes! I noticed this a while ago. It's maddening! It's like the mount goes back to not being leveled for speed. It's happening pretty often.

PSNA

Dragonnord · July 16

@ZOS_Kevin Could you please check this? As it's not a one person issue. Thanks.

irswat · July 16

Same issue

SickleCider · July 16

They recently capped the sprinting animation on mounts so it's a smoother ride. I wonder how many people aren't aware and assume that sprint isn't working. You're traveling at the same speed but it feels slower.

That being said, there have been times recently that it seems like my mount and toon don't want to sprint and it takes a few tries clicking the stick to make it work. But I've been having bad ping, so.

TaSheen · July 16

Huh. I almost never use mounts. Hadn't paid any attention.....

AlterBlika · July 16

My mounts' speed doesn't change really much when sprinting for some reason, I assume there's a cap for that. It's always been this way for me.

Can relate to the problem though. Sometimes sprinting stops working or something, but I'm pressing the sprint button and no stamina drains. Frankly it's the only way to notice this because I almost can't feel that sprint speed buff

MidniteOwl1913 · July 16

SickleCider wrote: »

They recently capped the sprinting animation on mounts so it's a smoother ride. I wonder how many people aren't aware and assume that sprint isn't working. You're traveling at the same speed but it feels slower.

That being said, there have been times recently that it seems like my mount and toon don't want to sprint and it takes a few tries clicking the stick to make it work. But I've been having bad ping, so.

When did they do that? And has it hit the consoles yet?

I'm on the console and I've been seeing it for a least a couple of weeks, maybe even three.

katanagirl1 · July 16

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

SickleCider wrote: »

They recently capped the sprinting animation on mounts so it's a smoother ride. I wonder how many people aren't aware and assume that sprint isn't working. You're traveling at the same speed but it feels slower.

That being said, there have been times recently that it seems like my mount and toon don't want to sprint and it takes a few tries clicking the stick to make it work. But I've been having bad ping, so.

When did they do that? And has it hit the consoles yet?

I'm on the console and I've been seeing it for a least a couple of weeks, maybe even three.

It’s been awhile, can’t remember exactly.

The mount’s legs don’t move as fast but you are still sprinting in at least my case.

Kitziboo · July 16

Whilst this does happen on other characters occasionally, I find that there is one of my Arcanists who can never sprint faster whilst mounted and I have all mount perks activated. He also has regular issues where his heavy destro attacks never work.

ghost_bg_ESO · July 16

animation was changed, but one of the first things when starting drivers lessons is to count seconds at not moving object
atleast in europe...

N00BxV1 · July 16

I just tested different movement speeds using the addon "MiniMap by Fyrakin" since it has a setting that can show your current movement speed (I normally use "Votan's MiniMap" since it seems to be smoother and doesn't lag). Unfortunately I do not know if my mount speed has changed since I don't have any screenshots from before the update. But it does feel like something is off because sometimes my mount seems to randomly go slower than other times...

I tried to make these screenshots as close as possible, but movement speed always fluctuates so the percentages are not completely accurate. For Character Speed, I'm using a typical speedy sneak farming build (Darloc Brae's, Jailbreaker, Ring of the Wild Hunt, etc.). For Mount Speed, I'm only using 60 Mount Speed Training and Major Gallop from Continuous Attack. I don't put anything else into Mount Speed since this is a farming build and I'm always on foot.

Note: When you first press Sprint (either on foot or on mount) there's a big "boost" of speed and then it goes back down to normal. It's been like this for years though so I don't know what that's all about. On foot it's ~10% boost, and on mount it's ~30% boost.

(You can see the Movement Speed % near the top of the MiniMap)

Character Sneak Speed:

Character Walk Speed:

Character Sprint Speed:

(I have no idea why imgur converted this from png to jpeg...)

Character "Boost" Speed:

Mount Walk Speed:

Mount Sprint Speed:

Mount "Boost" Speed:

Also, as others have mentioned, sometimes it takes pressing the Sprint button 3 times just to get your character or mount to start sprinting. Press #1 "on" = no sprint, press #2 "off" = no sprint, press #3 "on" = sprint starts. It has been bugged like this for years, and there are several bug reports about it, but I don't think it was ever acknowledged...

virtus753 · July 16

AlterBlika wrote: »

My mounts' speed doesn't change really much when sprinting for some reason, I assume there's a cap for that. It's always been this way for me.

There is no artificial cap on mounted speed beyond the fact you can't currently build for more than a theoretical 287%:

-base: 115%
-sprint: +30%
-training: +60%
-multiply by the sum of Major Gallop (30%) and Gifted Rider (10%)

There will be some variation as you progress over terrain, which is always uneven even when it looks fairly flat. You can still reach about 315% momentarily and even keep up sustained speeds around 300% by constantly boosting while sprinting on a mount.

With movement speed the speed always returns to 200% after the initial boost even if you should be able to reach much higher values by stacking multiple buffs (e.g. Major Expedition, Minor Expedition, Ring of the Wild Hunt, triple swift, sprint with armor and Orc buffs, etc.). That's the hard cap implemented to avoid problems with excessive speeds in combat. I've just tested this with a build where I sprint on foot at 192% (base 100% plus sprint's 40% - it's higher for movement speed than mounted - plus Ring of the Wild Hunt in Swift for 52%) and then used Trample with Major Expedition and Thief's Swiftness. Major Expedition adds 30%, and Thief's Swiftness is actually multiplicative 15%. I saw a momentary boost over 222% but it immediately fell back to ~200%, with very slight (within 1%) variations even on a surface that looks flat. Theoretically I should have sprinted at about 240% in Trample's path.

Adaarye · July 17

Dragonnord wrote: »

Sometimes trying to sprint with the mount (speed 60) just doesn't work. The mount does the animation as if it is going to sprint but the speed remains the same.

Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

I'm having the same issue.