Skyshards should when identified, show up on the map permanently.

Scott86 · June 19

And then when they are used up, left as black shards on the map instead of white shards on the map. What do you think? Thanks.

ESO_player123 · June 19

Currently black means not taken and white means taken. Why do you want to switch this?

Pelanora · June 19

And it means that for everything, every last thing found and not found, white and black. Omg the chaos.

ShadowPaladin · June 19

Correct me if I am wrong, but in other TES games the maps did work as the map does in ESO - things you did not complete/locate etc. are show blackish and the moment you completed them or collected them they do turn white.

This I do find more appropriate, because you can better see what you have already done on the map

. No need to switch anything here!

Regarding the Skyshards. Since I am playing on PC and using the "Skyshards" addon, I can't say how the normal map works

. But, I do find it nice that the addon shows me the Skyshards permanently on the map (not collected, as well as collected one).

Scott86 · June 19

ShadowPaladin wrote: »

Correct me if I am wrong, but in other TES games the maps did work as the map does in ESO - things you did not complete/locate etc. are show blackish and the moment you completed them or collected them they do turn white.

This I do find more appropriate, because you can better see what you have already done on the map . No need to switch anything here!

Regarding the Skyshards. Since I am playing on PC and using the "Skyshards" addon, I can't say how the normal map works . But, I do find it nice that the addon shows me the Skyshards permanently on the map (not collected, as well as collected one).

I could try out this "Skyshards" addon. Where is it at online? And if it's a hacking addon, does it ban someone's account? I was thinking about Runes and resources that it shows those also on the same addon if possible. Thanks.

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Currently black means not taken and white means taken. Why do you want to switch this?

The skyshards when seen at first are what I remember are white and then they turn black.

EdjeSwift · June 19

This would add terrible clutter to the map and compass UI if you left discovered skyshards on the UI. I, for one, really like that skyshards disappear from the map once discovered and you don't have to worry about them.

PeacefulAnarchy · June 19

There's already an ingame filter for showing discovered skyshards on the map. No addons required.

RexyCat · June 19

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

There's already an ingame filter for showing discovered skyshards on the map. No addons required.

That filter is a Global filter meaning all Skyshard will either show or be disabled from showing, it will not make any distinction between what you have collected and what you left to collect for that you need to use addon.

For PC there is no need to make any changes as you can control through API how Skyshard will show when those are collected or uncollected.

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info128-SkyShards.html

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1881-MapPins.html

Map Pin (addon) have more abilities then only control Skyshard (and work well with Skyshard addon - which one can enable/disable through Global filter shown here).

@Scott86

I am very much against your suggestion as that would mean changes to API which in turn would make more work for addon devs/authors to make those add on work as they did before your suggestion. It is better to use add on if you are on PC and check in that addon for what settings you can change like in how Skyshard will be displayed and when.

Another issue is why you would want to keep Skyshard that you have interacted with and collected to still show on map as you will not have any use from still be able to see those Skyshards? The only reason I can see when this would be useful is when you help other players to find Skyshards.

There are even addon that will replace the black and white colour scheme with colour (which make it easier to find all map pin on main map and/or mini map and compass. I will suggest to look at ESOUI and pick what fits your need for changes on how map pin will show and when they will show. Read forum section for each addon on ESOUI as there you find out if that add on is still supported by players that update addon when it is needed or if there are any issue to be aware about.

All GUI addon that might be relevant to map pin:

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/cat17.html

All Map add on:

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/cat24.html

furiouslog · June 19

Scott86 wrote: »

And then when they are used up, left as black on the map instead of white shards on the map. What do you think? Thanks.

What problem are you trying to solve, exactly?

SilverBride · June 19

It would be very confusing to change the way this has been for 10 years now. And I don't understand how this would be seen as beneficial.

Scott86 · June 19

furiouslog wrote: »

Scott86 wrote: »

And then when they are used up, left as black on the map instead of white shards on the map. What do you think? Thanks.

What problem are you trying to solve, exactly?

I want them to show up as black shards on the map when they are used up from the original white shards on the map. So, you know that you got all the white skyshards. They would show up as black then on the map and you would know that you got them already. Otherwise, I'd have to start from number 1 and go through like 5 of them per map and screenshot the location of each so I know I already have for each one. I can just do this. And again search all those spots that I already could've searched already with a screenshot.

SilverBride · June 19

We can already choose to show acquired Skyshards in the map filters tab.

We can also hover over Skyshards in the map objectives and it shows how many and which Skyshards we have and/or still need.

White has meant acquired for not just Skyshards, but every other map objective for 10 years now. It would be very confusing to change this and wouldn't provide any benefit that isn't already present.

belial5221_ESO · June 19

Scott86...Like others said,use skyshards addon,(or mappins,harvestmap,lorebooks,etc if you need other things to find).Once found,you don't need to know where they are anymore,so they disappear to not confuse by default.When using an alt,you'll see them on map again on that character.So either this is a troll post ot you not really reading anything.

furiouslog · June 19

Scott86 wrote: »

furiouslog wrote: »

Scott86 wrote: »

And then when they are used up, left as black on the map instead of white shards on the map. What do you think? Thanks.

What problem are you trying to solve, exactly?

I want them to show up as black shards on the map when they are used up from the original white shards on the map. So, you know that you got all the white skyshards. They would show up as black then on the map and you would know that you got them already. Otherwise, I'd have to start from number 1 and go through like 5 of them per map and screenshot the location of each so I know I already have for each one. I can just do this. And again search all those spots that I already could've searched already with a screenshot.

So, have you followed any of the advice already posted in this thread about configuring your filters so that you can see the skyshards?

SeaGtGruff · June 19

RexyCat wrote: »

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

There's already an ingame filter for showing discovered skyshards on the map. No addons required.

That filter is a Global filter meaning all Skyshard will either show or be disabled from showing, it will not make any distinction between what you have collected and what you left to collect for that you need to use addon.

That is incorrect. I use that filter and do not use any add-ons.

Edit: Undiscovered skyshards are not shown on the map.

When I get close enough to a new (previously undiscovered) skyshard, it gets added to the map as a black icon.

If I absorb it, the icon turns from black to white on the map.

If I choose to not absorb it so I can absorb it at a later time-- such as while I'm actually playing through that zone rather than simply visiting it for an event or some other reason (treasure map, crafting survey, antiquity, Mages Guild daily, Fighters Guild daily, Undaunted delve daily, getting the Psijic skill line, doing the Scribing quest line, etc.)-- it remains as a black icon on the map. It is easy to see which discovered skyshards have been absorbed or not.

It has been working that way ever since skyshards were added to the maps and map filters, even after the merging of many of the achievements from character-based to account-wide. If it's working differently for you, it's because of an add-on, as was ultimately proven to be the case back when account-wide achievements were implemented and a lot of players complained about this very issue; I posted numerous times that it was working correctly (i.e., as described above), but no one believed me until it was discovered to be an add-on at fault. I never use add-ons and never have, so it's always worked correctly for me.

Edited to clarify that undiscovered skyshards are not shown on the map. If you're seeing undiscovered skyshards on your map, check your map add-ons to see if you can turn off any of its features which are related to skyshards.

Scott86 · June 19

furiouslog wrote: »

Scott86 wrote: »

furiouslog wrote: »

Scott86 wrote: »

And then when they are used up, left as black on the map instead of white shards on the map. What do you think? Thanks.

What problem are you trying to solve, exactly?

I want them to show up as black shards on the map when they are used up from the original white shards on the map. So, you know that you got all the white skyshards. They would show up as black then on the map and you would know that you got them already. Otherwise, I'd have to start from number 1 and go through like 5 of them per map and screenshot the location of each so I know I already have for each one. I can just do this. And again search all those spots that I already could've searched already with a screenshot.

So, have you followed any of the advice already posted in this thread about configuring your filters so that you can see the skyshards?

Yeah, I did put on from Options, Acquired Skyshards. This helps and solved my problem. Thanks people.