Murkmire is the absolute WORST zone

Poss · June 13

• You need to have completed the main zone story to unlock the third daily NPC quest giver which means you can’t just swap between all your toons to easily get one of the three “complete 30 dailies” achievements. I only have the motivation to complete a zone once so this will take me 30 days.

• Walks-like-Thunder world boss is IMPOSSIBLE to complete solo which means the complete 30 WB dailies will take extra long to complete as this boss is an instant abandon

• The zone has TWO rng related achievements where an NPC will have a random chance to spawn around the map BOTH of which are confirmed to be bugged. These sort of achievements are a pain to complete even when they’re working. One is broken if you’ve started the Dark Brotherhood questline and acquired the Blade of Woe which for me meant I had to do this one on my healer

Slowly making my way through each zone and attempting to 100% complete them but Murkmire has me going insane with fury

Drinks_from_Ponds · June 13

I do agree that WB needs a nerf so it can be attempted solo. What achievements are bugged out by the blade of woe?

Poss · June 13

Drinks_from_Ponds wrote: »

I do agree that WB needs a nerf so it can be attempted solo. What achievements are bugged out by the blade of woe?

It’s the “Surreptitiously Shadowed” achievement where you have to find Choixth and speak to him 5 times. On PC if you’ve started the Dark Brotherhood quest line talking to him will crash your game, on console the interaction just simply doesn’t register

Finedaible · June 13

I like the zone, I just wish it was worth the time doing anything there. Like if there was a chance to obtain trap plant furnishings for my home by harvesting them like with the Scuttle Blooms I would spend a lot more time there. A shame that those are only available in FOMO gamble crates for a limited time each year.

Nharimlur_Finor · June 13

It is has one redeeming feature in that the Traders are close to the wayshrine.
However, you have to put up with Stuga's cousin and the 'adventurer' monologue to get there.

DenverRalphy · June 13

Adventure! Discovery!

Nharimlur_Finor · June 13

vomit.

cyclonus11 · June 13

That WB does suck, however it is still one of my favorite zones.

NoticeMeArkay · June 13

Love the zone. Soloing the World Bosses is absolutely possible if you don't ignore the mechanics.

TybaltKaine · June 13

Poss wrote: »

Drinks_from_Ponds wrote: »

I do agree that WB needs a nerf so it can be attempted solo. What achievements are bugged out by the blade of woe?

It’s the “Surreptitiously Shadowed” achievement where you have to find Choixth and speak to him 5 times. On PC if you’ve started the Dark Brotherhood quest line talking to him will crash your game, on console the interaction just simply doesn’t register

This "quest"/achievement worked absolutely fine for both my wife and I when we were doing the zone clear last month. As we are playing in release order, we also have fully completed DB on the respective characters.

I_killed_Vivec · June 13

Don't like swamps, don't like creatures that live in swamps.

BahometZ · June 13

I just hate swamps.

TaSheen · June 13

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

Don't like swamps, don't like creatures that live in swamps.

BahometZ wrote: »

I just hate swamps.

There's really only one swamp I like and that's in Hjaalmarch in TES V. Murkmire, Shadowfen, the swampy area of Blackwood, no thank you.

As for the critters.... the only ones I REALLY object to are Kotu Gava.

MrGarlic · June 13

Zos gave it away for free as log-in rewards one time. Good value in my opinion.

I remember at the Murkmire release presentation, I think it was Matt Firor who said the zone was designed so you don't get dismounted when you ride through water. The crowd erupted in cheer. It didn't take much to get excited back then. But the last laugh went to Zos because if you get too close to a wayshrine as you ride passed, you get dismounted.

I don't dislike Murkmire, despite the buginess. It's not my favourite zone though.

SeaGtGruff · June 13

Drinks_from_Ponds wrote: »

I do agree that WB needs a nerf so it can be attempted solo. What achievements are bugged out by the blade of woe?

While it may be true that that WB could stand to be nerfed, any content already "can be attempted solo." You can even walk into a trial solo and attempt it-- I know, because I did it more than once before I understood what a trial is. Attempting to do something and being able to successfully do something are two different things.

Besides, there are players who can successfully so that boss. Mind you, I am definitely not one of them.

Jaraal · June 13

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

Don't like swamps, don't like creatures that live in swamps.

Yeah, any zone with the swarming 1HP bugs that unnecessarily make you stuck in combat and delay you from getting where you want to go is distasteful.

Destai · June 13

I'm not a fan of swamp zones myself. I like this zone more than I thought I would, but it's certainly nowhere near the top. At least it has a good story and music.

AcadianPaladin · June 13

Not defending some of the valid problems mentioned above but, overall, I love Murkmire for the following reasons:
- My character is a wood elf and never more at home than when she can wrap either the jungle or swamp around her.
- The locals are refreshingly accepting and friendly - a stark contrast to Vvardenfell, Summerset, Wrothgar, Deadlands, etc where my elf would sooner kill than assist most of the pompous questgivers.
- The main questline is one of my absolute faves in the game. The character development of the quest NPCs is superb - especially as Jaxsik-Orrn gradually transitions from fearsome opponent to dear friend.

Silaf · June 13

I completly disagree. For me it was one of the best.

Hapexamendios · June 14

1. The quests from Tuwal should be able to be shared. The trick is finding someone to do it.
2. The bosses are soloable for some people, but definitely not the majority. Walks in particular is a pain.
3. The achievement for meeting the shadowscale, name starts with C?, wasn't bugged on a Dark Brotherhood character for me. If that's the one you're referring to.

MasterSpatula · June 14

I know I'm in the minority here, but I've never understood the "I hate that I have to do the content" mentality.

vsrs_au · June 14

I think if any content is making someone feel like they're going "insane with fury", it's time to skip that content.

TaSheen · June 14

MasterSpatula wrote: »

I know I'm in the minority here, but I've never understood the "I hate that I have to do the content" mentality.

vsrs_au wrote: »

I think if any content is making someone feel like they're going "insane with fury", it's time to skip that content.

Exactly. I never do stuff that I'm convinced won't be fun for me. I did a little in Murkmire, and then I bagged it.... Won't ever do anything else there outside of antiquities. I actually finished Blackwood 4 times (swamp included) so I could buy Water's Edge for gold on 2 accounts both PC megaservers.... I've done the quests in Shadowfen required for Cadwell whichever one was EP for a DC character - gold? - and that's all I've done there outside of fishing, surveys, and antiquities.

xclassgaming · June 14

Shadowfen

Nestor · June 14

I one Alt everything is unlocked, another where most is unlocked. The the other 16? I do what I can for dailies.

I enjoy Murkmire, other than the wayshrine placement, they are not all that convenient

OtarTheMad · June 14

I enjoyed Murkmire. Definitely had its issues like that WB and one of the dailies not available until finished but overall it was good.

notyuu · June 14

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

Love the zone. Soloing the World Bosses is absolutely possible if you don't ignore the mechanics.

It is not, walks like thunder heals faster than you can kill the totems

ArchMikem · June 14

notyuu wrote: »

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

Love the zone. Soloing the World Bosses is absolutely possible if you don't ignore the mechanics.

It is not, walks like thunder heals faster than you can kill the totems

It's not impossible then, it's a DPS race. Besides, World Bosses were meant to be cleared by multiple players.

Drammanoth · June 14

Well, maybe if one wants to solo Walks, maybe they can... uh... ask guildies? It's not that some minority does not have ESO+, or has bought the DLC separately... (I have, and I like the Mayan / Aztec vibe).

Oh, and DLC bosses are usually better off dealt with in groups.

Circuitous · June 14

It's okay, Murkmire, I still like you. *patpat*

Rowjoh · June 14

Wish they'd place more Mythic leads in Murkmire safeboxes.