Feedback on vault skill [Scribing]

olsborg · June 8

After abit of use I found several limitation to it. The teleport/mobility part of the skill seems iffy. You have to stand on basicly very if not completely flat terrain to be ported 15m as it sais it will. Even just the smallest little bump in the road will cause you to not move more then 1-2 meters instead of the discribed 15m.
Im used to how Streak on my sorc works, it will basicly port me wherever I want except very steep uphill it will port quite short, but thats fine. Vault, however, feels very easily "fizzled" when you use it in rough terrain, even small stairs it cant get you up those.

olsborg · June 8

This small bump in the terrain right outside castle Arrius in cyrodiil is big enough to make your Vault fizzle.

fred4 · June 9

That's not the only problem. Vault locks out the skill bar during the animation. That causes skill queuing and animation cancelling issues. It feels clunky. It interacts badly with dodge rolls, which also momentarily gray out the skill bar. For example, if you do this:

Skill A into dodge roll
Vault
Skill B

What actually happens is:

Skill A into dodge roll
Skill B
Vault

In other words, the engine gets confused about the sequence of keys you have pressed and swaps them around. Sometimes this results in Vaults going off for "no reason". Sometimes the unresponsiveness causes you to do extra vaults, burning your resources. You can normally cancel any ability by pressing a different key during a single GCD. You will do this instinctively during hectic PvP. However if you do that with Vault, or if you end up hammering the Vault key in lag, you'll either end up overcasting it with no ability to cancel, or it goes off at the wrong (delayed) time.

I'm not sure I will keep the skill. There is a noticeable delay, maybe 1/2 second longer than normal, before you can queue up the next skill after a vault. If you think you'll leap backwards into a ranged execute or something, think again. I am not sure whether it is truly slow or just feels unresponsive. All I can say is that Streak feels far superior and, on a nightblade, Shadow Image feels like the better escape tool.

Some people have pointed out that class skills should be superior to generic skills. I broadly agree with that. Nonetheless with the nerfed height plus these other issues, Vault feels more gimmicky than fun. At best it's situational, which is surprising considering how useful movement skills are in PvP. Streak, with it's stun and ability to streak through NPCs, works equally well for attack and escape. It can make you play in a somewhat carefree way. Vault does not give me that feeling. It's too finnicky for that.

olsborg · June 9

Yea I forgot to mention the wierd synergy (or lack thereof) with dodgeroll. If you streak and dodgeroll at the same time, you streak and dodgeroll at the same time, with vault...you wont dodgeroll and theres a wierd queue of animation happening afterwards. Feels buggy. Was rly looking forward to using this skill, but as it stands now... I dont have it slotted. Hoping for improvements in the near future.

TheMajority · June 9

Wasnt always like that. People on youtube/streams were breaking zone boundaries with it when it actually was good and worked, and then they nerfed it so now you cant actually vault over or onto anything

just like they made the arcanist portal useless because people were doing the same thing

olsborg · June 13

TheMajority wrote: »

Wasnt always like that. People on youtube/streams were breaking zone boundaries with it when it actually was good and worked, and then they nerfed it so now you cant actually vault over or onto anything

just like they made the arcanist portal useless because people were doing the same thing

Yea, i mean i get that it was broken in the first iteration on pts, but now its pretty much useless. A middleroad would have been better.