[SUGGESTION] Create an option for DLC ONLY N/V Dungeons in dungeon finder

VouxeTheMinotaur

This may receive some backlash ever since the new group finder was created, and with the added possible solution of "you can just select the DLC you want from specific queue"

and you guys are right, that's true, and call me lazy if you want but I really don't feel like individually selecting every DLC dungeon, I also play solo, I do not have a guild to call upon to do DLC's back-to-back-to-back. And with ZOS continually adding more and more as the years go by.. well, you see what I mean. I don't have a problem with the vanilla dungeons, they're nice, but waiting in queue as a dps (and sometimes even as a healer or tank in rare instances), getting queue to pop and then the glorious loading screen fin-

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Okay yeah, fair to say that at least it'll be quick and easy, in and out and easy transmutes, which is why I'm not suggesting removing the random or specific, they come in very handy for players who are getting the dailies, farming gear with friends, etc etc. I'm suggesting another option after selecting Activity > Dungeon Finder > Random, Specific, or DLC Only. For the dungeon crawlers like myself who spend most of their game time in dungeon content. The DLC's are challenging (i'm looking at you vGraven Deep HM) I've met some fun people who stuck around to figure out mechs, found some great 2 man or 3 man groups I've happen to be a 4th to who are in guilds and invite me to play more content with them, definitely more favorable imo than what I got last night -> darkshade I, crypt of hearts II, vaults of madness, fungal grotto I, elden hollow I, elden hollow I, eldEN HOLLOW I

As for the group finder, yes, I know I can look for others who'd like to do the same, I've tried many times before posting. Unfortunately, I've spent maybe more time waiting for the group to fill than waiting for a dps queue for a vRandom. Specific queue? Sure, but takes way longer in queue time understandably.

Again, understandable that I can take different avenues, and I would love to hear them. This was just an idea floating in my head for quite some time now

LunaFlora

yes a seperate queue for DLC dungeons would be nice, a seperate queue base game dungeons also

Soarora

We’ve had a couple different threads suggesting this, I still agree it should be a thing. I don’t want to do nonDLC dungeons unless I need the quest or still have gear to collect from there. I won’t even do them for pledges nowadays.

EdjeSwift

I like this idea with a single caveat.

That being that it not be another iteration of the random dungeon finder with the transmute/XP boost reward; I feel that if they do that we're going to see even more threads about "fake" roles pop up or even more kicking from groups and complaints about that.

If it were a subset of the "Specific Dungeon" part of the dungeon finder it would be best, especially since DLC dungeons outweigh the number of non-DLC dungeons now.

spartaxoxo

As long as it doesn't give random finder rewards.

A way to more easily pick which specific dungeons you want is fine.

But, letting people pick what they want to do and still get random rewards undermines the ability for RND to create groups for the people who need help with something specific. That's the purpose of the random finder in the first place. It's there to fill in groups. It places you where you're needed rather than what you want to do, and compensates you for letting it do that.

RexyCat

spartaxoxo wrote: »

As long as it doesn't give random finder rewards.

A way to more easily pick which specific dungeons you want is fine.

But, letting people pick what they want to do and still get random rewards undermines the ability for RND to create groups for the people who need help with something specific. That's the purpose of the random finder in the first place. It's there to fill in groups. It places you where you're needed rather than what you want to do, and compensates you for letting it do that.

RND is also for getting low level or player with less CP then the rest of group to even be able to do more demanding dungeons and progress (that is why XP is also boosted first time doing daily RND dungeons). It isn't just a farm of currency for Stickbook, but to get player of different level in progression to work together and progress with gear, loot and Transmute Gems to be able to craft or exchange items with other player.

VouxeTheMinotaur

EdjeSwift wrote: »

That being that it not be another iteration of the random dungeon finder with the transmute/XP boost reward; I feel that if they do that we're going to see even more threads about "fake" roles pop up or even more kicking from groups and complaints about that.

Agreed! This is a great point.

With the Normal or Veteran Randoms, they should stay as is to be the source of Transmute / Daily XP boost. Getting the bonus rewards and XP should continue to invite the quite literal randomness of which dungeon and the player's teammates in group. While the Specific Queue will have Specific N/V Dungeon, or

LunaFlora wrote: »

yes a seperate queue for DLC dungeons would be nice, a seperate queue base game dungeons also

Base Game Dungeons and DLC Dungeons, absolutely.

Activity Finder > Dungeon Finder > Normal / Veteran Dungeon > Random Dungeons, Specific Dungeons, Core Dungeons (? working title I suppose), and DLC Dungeons

VouxeTheMinotaur

spartaxoxo wrote: »

But, letting people pick what they want to do and still get random rewards undermines the ability for RND to create groups for the people who need help with something specific.

Very true, you're right. Which is why the random rewards should continue to stay with the random queue only. Adding the option for a base game / DLC only dungeon finder I believe should be purely for the fun of wanting to play those types of dungeons, for the challenge, and wanting a dungeon that won't be rushed just for the bonus and transmutes.

RexyCat wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

As long as it doesn't give random finder rewards.

A way to more easily pick which specific dungeons you want is fine.

But, letting people pick what they want to do and still get random rewards undermines the ability for RND to create groups for the people who need help with something specific. That's the purpose of the random finder in the first place. It's there to fill in groups. It places you where you're needed rather than what you want to do, and compensates you for letting it do that.

RND is also for getting low level or player with less CP then the rest of group to even be able to do more demanding dungeons and progress

hell yeah!

Imagine that same low level or low CP player wanting to get into veteran dungeons, whether it be a first try, test out their new sets, farm some new sets, whatever the case may be for them, just a bit intimidated. I know I sure as hell was when i wanting to start trials with 11 other people as a tank.

Having a DLC only with no bonus rewards like the randoms will invite (at least I hope so) more people with a similar patience and mindset to get through the more challenging content, together. Because the players who selected this option know full well there's no extra reward for just completing it other than what you make of it (typing in chat that you'd like to get an achievement toward a skin, personality, antiquity, secret bosses, etc). Want the transmutes and XP? Then go to Random, simple!

Drammanoth

PLEASE DO! That's a wonderful idea!

Dragonnord

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

Necrotech_Master

VouxeTheMinotaur wrote: »

EdjeSwift wrote: »

That being that it not be another iteration of the random dungeon finder with the transmute/XP boost reward; I feel that if they do that we're going to see even more threads about "fake" roles pop up or even more kicking from groups and complaints about that.

Agreed! This is a great point.

With the Normal or Veteran Randoms, they should stay as is to be the source of Transmute / Daily XP boost. Getting the bonus rewards and XP should continue to invite the quite literal randomness of which dungeon and the player's teammates in group. While the Specific Queue will have Specific N/V Dungeon, or

LunaFlora wrote: »

yes a seperate queue for DLC dungeons would be nice, a seperate queue base game dungeons also

Base Game Dungeons and DLC Dungeons, absolutely.

Activity Finder > Dungeon Finder > Normal / Veteran Dungeon > Random Dungeons, Specific Dungeons, Core Dungeons (? working title I suppose), and DLC Dungeons

if thats the idea, whats the difference from choosing DLC dungeons, vs just going into specific dungeons and checking the boxes of all of the dlc dungeons? lol

i mean aside from the obvious less work of having to check all of the ones you want every queue, but technically the option already exists in game if you arent getting the extra rewards

if you want to do a "random" dungeon but dont want dlc dungeon, just go to specific dungeons and check all the non-dlc dungeons

i do this to pseudo randomly select dungeons to work on gear, i have an addon i can auto check all of the dungeons in which im missing gear for collections so i dont have to farm the same dungeon repeatedly

Soarora

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

Not if the “queue any dungeon” pool is involved. People who would queue only DLC don’t want to do nondlc, people who would only queue nondlc don’t want to do DLC. Letting people queue for one, the other, or both, I can only see decreasing toxicity in runs.

spartaxoxo

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

If it's just an option that checks them all for you, it wouldn't. It's already the case that the specific queue and the random queue are the same pool, despite being in different tabs. All the random queue does is check you down for all dungeons you're eligible to do.

Dragonnord

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

If it's just an option that checks them all for you, it wouldn't. It's already the case that the specific queue and the random queue are the same pool, despite being in different tabs. All the random queue does is check you down for all dungeons you're eligible to do.

Yes, but still, all the players that selected DLC only are not an option anymore for the non-DLC groups, and currently they are an option for the non-DLC groups.
 

Sakiri

I'd just avoid the dlc queue. I want fast transmutes since ZOS won't give us good alternative methods of getting them. I need hundreds of them. My current set wants 500.

Cheezing pvp t1 every month is not a solution.

spartaxoxo

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

If it's just an option that checks them all for you, it wouldn't. It's already the case that the specific queue and the random queue are the same pool, despite being in different tabs. All the random queue does is check you down for all dungeons you're eligible to do.

Yes, but still, all the players that selected DLC only are not an option anymore for the non-DLC groups, and currently they are an option for the non-DLC groups.
 

They are already not an option because they are people that are already selecting themselves into specific dungeons. I suppose there would be some people who decided not to use the random and instead join a specific grouping. But since the random is mostly for people who want the random rewards, and those rewards would still require hitting random, then that would likely be minimum. There is already a specific dungeon group where people are selecting dungeons they want in particular. I don't know why such people's preferences would change.

IsharaMeradin

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

If it's just an option that checks them all for you, it wouldn't. It's already the case that the specific queue and the random queue are the same pool, despite being in different tabs. All the random queue does is check you down for all dungeons you're eligible to do.

Yes, but still, all the players that selected DLC only are not an option anymore for the non-DLC groups, and currently they are an option for the non-DLC groups.
 

You are missing something there...
If I go in the dungeon finder and select a specific DLC normal dungeon, I am not in the non-DLC normal random group pool.
If I go in the dungeon finder and select all the DLC normal dungeons, I am not in the non-DLC normal random group pool.
Who then would be joining me in my specific DLC normal dungeon(s)?
Other players that chose that dungeon AND other players that chose normal random who have access to the specific dungeon.

This request is not to replace the random queue with its unique rewards.
This request is to make selecting SPECIFIC and MULTIPLE dungeons easier.

i.e. two check boxes at the bottom of the specific dungeon window

• Queue for all base game dungeons <-- this one for ESO+ players who want to avoid DLC dungeons
• Queue for all other dungeons <-- this one for anyone wants to do just the DLC dungeons

To be honest, the random dungeon could have these options added but that would create a new overall split that is not already present. Though that split can be forced individually by dropping ESO+ and thus limiting oneself to the base game and any owned DLC dungeons.

Dragonnord

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

If it's just an option that checks them all for you, it wouldn't. It's already the case that the specific queue and the random queue are the same pool, despite being in different tabs. All the random queue does is check you down for all dungeons you're eligible to do.

Yes, but still, all the players that selected DLC only are not an option anymore for the non-DLC groups, and currently they are an option for the non-DLC groups.
 

They are already not an option because they are people that are already selecting themselves into specific dungeons.

Even if selecting a specific dungeon they can still be an option for groups queuing for pledges (if the specific dungeon selected is a dungeon that is also a pledge for that day), also they can still be an option for random dailies (100% an option as they can be put in a random daily - let's say the player selected FG2 specifically and the tool uses FG2 as the random dungeon for the group that queued for a random daily), etc.
 

Dragonnord

IsharaMeradin wrote: »

Who then would be joining me in my specific DLC normal dungeon(s)?

I just responded that in my post above (just replace FG2 for a DLC dungeon.)

Sorry I was writing and just saw your post after I answered above.
 

spartaxoxo

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

If it's just an option that checks them all for you, it wouldn't. It's already the case that the specific queue and the random queue are the same pool, despite being in different tabs. All the random queue does is check you down for all dungeons you're eligible to do.

Yes, but still, all the players that selected DLC only are not an option anymore for the non-DLC groups, and currently they are an option for the non-DLC groups.
 

They are already not an option because they are people that are already selecting themselves into specific dungeons.

Even if selecting a specific dungeon they can still be an option for groups queuing for pledges (if the specific dungeon selected is a dungeon that is also a pledge for that day), also they can still be an option for random dailies (100% an option as they can be put in a random daily - let's say the player selected FG2 specifically and the tool uses FG2 as the random dungeon for the group that queued for a random daily), etc.
 

And they still would be with this suggestion.

You can already do this and people do already do this. They are just asking for it to be less button presses.

Edit:

For the sake of example let's pretend there are only 4 base game dungeons

Select FG1
Select FG2
Select BC1
Select BC2

Queue: queues you for all selected dungeons
Matchmaker: places you with anyone who selected the same dungeons or RND

With suggestion

Select all normals

Queue: queues you for FG1, FG2, BC1, BC2
Matchmaker: places you with anyone who selected those same dungeons or RND

spartaxoxo

Actually I made a video quite a while ago that shows how the current selection works.

https://youtu.be/NcPlepP3ils?si=m2G-n9beQ1v4yCw0

As can be seen, it is already possible to select only normal dungeons while still joining the regular queue. But it takes a lot of button presses. Not the biggest deal in the world but gets old quick.

Dragonnord

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

If it's just an option that checks them all for you, it wouldn't. It's already the case that the specific queue and the random queue are the same pool, despite being in different tabs. All the random queue does is check you down for all dungeons you're eligible to do.

Yes, but still, all the players that selected DLC only are not an option anymore for the non-DLC groups, and currently they are an option for the non-DLC groups.
 

They are already not an option because they are people that are already selecting themselves into specific dungeons.

Even if selecting a specific dungeon they can still be an option for groups queuing for pledges (if the specific dungeon selected is a dungeon that is also a pledge for that day), also they can still be an option for random dailies (100% an option as they can be put in a random daily - let's say the player selected FG2 specifically and the tool uses FG2 as the random dungeon for the group that queued for a random daily), etc.
 

And they still would be with this suggestion.

You can already do this and people do already do this. They are just asking for it to be less button presses.

Edit:

For the sake of example let's pretend there are only 4 base game dungeons

Select FG1
Select FG2
Select BC1
Select BC2

Queue: queues you for all selected dungeons
Matchmaker: places you with anyone who selected the same dungeons or RND

With suggestion

Select all normals

Queue: queues you for FG1, FG2, BC1, BC2
Matchmaker: places you with anyone who selected those same dungeons or RND

You are forgetting this option:

Queue: Group queues for random daily (and the players don't have ESO Plus nor any DLC's so they have to receive a non-DLC dungeon)

Players that selected DLC dungeons only will not be in the pool of available players to fill that random daily, however, if the DLC only option doesn't exist, they are an option to fill that random daily.

So, the waiting time of the group that queued for the random daily will be higher as the search pool has less players available to select a fill.
 
 

Soarora

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

The downside I see is that it will add even more waiting times to finder queue as non-DLC groups and DLC groups will be split.
 

If it's just an option that checks them all for you, it wouldn't. It's already the case that the specific queue and the random queue are the same pool, despite being in different tabs. All the random queue does is check you down for all dungeons you're eligible to do.

Yes, but still, all the players that selected DLC only are not an option anymore for the non-DLC groups, and currently they are an option for the non-DLC groups.
 

They are already not an option because they are people that are already selecting themselves into specific dungeons.

Even if selecting a specific dungeon they can still be an option for groups queuing for pledges (if the specific dungeon selected is a dungeon that is also a pledge for that day), also they can still be an option for random dailies (100% an option as they can be put in a random daily - let's say the player selected FG2 specifically and the tool uses FG2 as the random dungeon for the group that queued for a random daily), etc.
 

And they still would be with this suggestion.

You can already do this and people do already do this. They are just asking for it to be less button presses.

Edit:

For the sake of example let's pretend there are only 4 base game dungeons

Select FG1
Select FG2
Select BC1
Select BC2

Queue: queues you for all selected dungeons
Matchmaker: places you with anyone who selected the same dungeons or RND

With suggestion

Select all normals

Queue: queues you for FG1, FG2, BC1, BC2
Matchmaker: places you with anyone who selected those same dungeons or RND

You are forgetting this option:

Queue: Group queues for random daily (and the players don't have ESO Plus nor any DLC's so they have to receive a non-DLC dungeon)

Players that selected DLC dungeons only will not be in the pool of available players to fill that random daily, however, if the DLC only option doesn't exist, they are an option to fill that random daily.

So, the waiting time of the group that queued for the random daily will be higher as the search pool has less players available to select a fill.
 
 

The kinds of people who would queue only DLC are already queueing only DLC. Source: me.
I queue random vet only if I want the transmute because I find nondlc so miserable I have the concern I may become the exact person people hate to get in their groups. If random DLC awarded no transmute or a lesser amount of transmute, then it'd just be less button presses like already mentioned. A DLC queue button would actually make me run dungeons more because I find the amount of dungeons intimidating and I end up just queueing for dungeons I like, so a DLC queue button would even put me in the pool for more dungeons. Of course, that's just me, but there's a nonzero amount of other people who are in the same boat as me.

NonDLC is not suffering from lack of players. People who aren't ready for DLC, people who don't like dungeons, people who want gear from those dungeons, people without ESO+, and people who just want the quick transmute all are already populating the nonDLC queue.

Dragonnord

Soarora wrote: »

but there's a nonzero amount of other people who are in the same boat as me.

Yes, one more, two maybe.
 

spartaxoxo

Dragonnord wrote: »

Players that selected DLC dungeons only will not be in the pool of available players to fill that random daily, however, if the DLC only option doesn't exist, they are an option to fill that random daily. 

I am not forgetting that. Those people queued for a specific dungeon and were already currently excluded from filling that random daily. Anyone who wouldn't want those random daily rewards are already not queued to fill that group. They are selecting specific dungeons.

Dragonnord

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

Players that selected DLC dungeons only will not be in the pool of available players to fill that random daily, however, if the DLC only option doesn't exist, they are an option to fill that random daily. 

I am not forgetting that. Those people queued for a specific dungeon and were already currently excluded from filling that random daily. Anyone who wouldn't want those random daily rewards are already not queued to fill that group. They are selecting specific dungeons.

How they are excluded? If I select a specific dungeon (let's say Icereach) and a group selects a radom daily, the finder can put me in their group, me getting Icereach as the specific dungeon I selected and the group getting Icereach as the random daily.
 

EdjeSwift

Dragonnord wrote: »

How they are excluded? If I select a specific dungeon (let's say Icereach) and a group selects a radom daily, the finder can put me in their group, me getting Icereach as the specific dungeon I selected and the group getting Icereach as the random daily.
 

I've read all your responses and I feel like you're confused as to what this request is.

This isn't a whole new queue, this is a convenience to select only DLC dungeons as your dungeon search via activity finder, no different than manually selecting the dungeons and queuing. It's a non-exclusive pool of dungeons and should have little to no bearing on the actual random queues.

As for this point:

Dragonnord wrote: »

You are forgetting this option:

Queue: Group queues for random daily (and the players don't have ESO Plus nor any DLC's so they have to receive a non-DLC dungeon)

Players that selected DLC dungeons only will not be in the pool of available players to fill that random daily, however, if the DLC only option doesn't exist, they are an option to fill that random daily.

So, the waiting time of the group that queued for the random daily will be higher as the search pool has less players available to select a fill.
 
 

This is ALREADY how the system is. When I queue my tank for the daily DLC pledge, I select only the DLC dungeon, thus making me only available for groups with the DLC access which I have chosen, this isn't going to change anything, especially since many of us already agreed that this isn't another "random" queue for transmutes/XP, this is a QoL improvement to save us from clicking through the 25+ DLC dungeons just to not do the same base game dungeon for the 100th+ time.

VouxeTheMinotaur

wOAH, this took off a bit more than i expected.. wait, just want to say all my post was suggesting was an option for a "DLC / Base game dungeons only" because I do not want to have to individually select every single DLC dungeon every time I go to queue for a veteran dungeon. "What's the difference?" there isn't other than again, going down the growing list of DLC content can get tedious when majority, and sometimes all of my game time, is spent running through dungeons queuing solo.

Call it a personal or lazy problem, that's fair cause it does seem so, but something to share for maybe other likeminded dungeon delvers who spend a lot of time in there as well. I'm sure PC has add-ons for that makes it as easy as one two three clicks. Console unfortunately does not have that luxury. I would call it similar to the mail problem when it accumulates overtime, though thats a whole different discussion I've seen before. If you simply say "just check off all DLC, big deal" it's clear to me this post is not intended for you.

On a side note, to get into the discussion of "pools" : if queueing for specific by individually selecting each DLC, as others seem to be saying, puts me in the SAME POOL as those queuing for a random daily, then why does it take longer for me as a tank or healer to find a group for what should be a combination of the two then? a random and DLC. I would understand if I selected the vanilla dungeons since it's a wayyy smaller selection, but DLC outweighs vanilla by a lot by now. So, genuinely asking out of pure curiosity, is it really the same pool? Random daily seems to be near instant, but specific takes maybe 5-7 minutes.

Dragonnord

EdjeSwift wrote: »

this isn't going to change anything

Yes it's going to change things (not extremely of course) and I already explained why very clearly, several times.

In any case, @spartaxoxo is who has the most clear idea of the situation.
 

EdjeSwift

VouxeTheMinotaur wrote: »

On a side note, to get into the discussion of "pools" : if queueing for specific by individually selecting each DLC, as others seem to be saying, puts me in the SAME POOL as those queuing for a random daily, then why does it take longer for me as a tank or healer to find a group for what should be a combination of the two then? a random and DLC. I would understand if I selected the vanilla dungeons since it's a wayyy smaller selection, but DLC outweighs vanilla by a lot by now. So, genuinely asking out of pure curiosity, is it really the same pool? Random daily seems to be near instant, but specific takes maybe 5-7 minutes.

I can see the confusion, especially since other people seem to be conflating queues.

It's like this.

Let's say I queue for Bedlam Veil and Veil only. Queuing as DPS I might be 50th in the queue. The pool I'm in isn't the BV only queue, but the queue of everyone who wants to do random dungeons AND BV specifically. BUT, as the 50th DPS in queue, it has to through the other 49 DPS and find them groups before I can pull from the rest of the random queue for BV and BV only. That doesn't sound too bad until you realize that you're not waiting in the DPS queue, you're waiting on the tanks and that means a combination of 49 tanks in the random or direct BV queue, cause they're pulling from the same pool of DPS but get a faster group cause tanks are rarer.

For a more visual representation:
Tank Queue: X
Healer Queue: X X X X X X X X X X
DPS Queue: X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X

You are the bolded X. The other X's are people queuing randoms/BV as well, this is how the queue works, so after the first group is made, the queue now looks like.

Tank Queue:
Healer Queue: X X X X X X X X X
DPS Queue: X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X

Your hope is the next tank queues solo or without DPS to push you your allotted 2 slots in line but if the tank queues with 2 DPS you stay static while the healer queue grows shorter. And when you get to first position you have to hope that the healer/tank at the top of queue have the DLC for BV or else it'll pull from the people BEHIND you because you want to do BV only which may not be compatible with the group at the head of the queue.

EdjeSwift

Dragonnord wrote: »

EdjeSwift wrote: »

this isn't going to change anything

Yes it's going to change things (not extremely of course) and I already explained why very clearly, several times.

In any case, @spartaxoxo is who has the most clear idea of the situation.
 

This is a perfect example of cherry picking your quotes. Had you quoted the entire thing you'd see that it doesn't affect any thing at all, because it doesn't change how the queue system works, it's the exact same system as we have at this moment; it just simplifies the process. By virtue of selecting specific DLC dungeons I'm already excluded from non-DLC access groups by the merit of selecting DLC dungeons, making life easier by adding a button press to the specific dungeons tab isn't going to make your non-DLC queue and faster or slower in this case.