Dov-rha sabaton Toe Cap lead

notyuu · May 16

Could we get an alternative source added for the Dov-Rah sabaton Toe Cap lead?

as it stands right now it only drops from psijic portals in soutner elsweyr, but the problem with that is psijic portals are functionally extinct in southern elsweyr

ya plot out a small circut of runestones to farm out to try and get a portal
you run it and farm constnaly for hours and all you get is runestones without seeing a single portal

so once again, can we get another source for the lead added to the game?

Update: I have been non-stop farming/hunting portals for almost 4 hours at this point and I have only encountered ONE psijic portal in this entire time, so maybe Zos should increase their spawn rate up from 0.0001%?

Update 2: 13 hours later only seen the one portal....what the fork is going on with this rng?

GeneralGrundmann · May 16

Won't happen.

Perhaps filer Ool will sell the lead at some point in the future.

I am on PS EU and don't have addons, I farmed approximately 30 hours for this lead.

Like you I started with a small circuit, but that just didn't work. After some time I roamed at least 2/3 of the map and farmed runestones hoping for psijic portals until I finally got the lead.

Out of my experience that a psijic portal spawns instead of a runestone is a rng of 8% and if a psijic portal spawns the lead rng seems to be around 3%. So it may take some time.

Still, it's rng. A friend of mine got the lead with the first psijic portal...

We all know these players. *sigh*

He also got the Dragonstar lead at first try.

notyuu · May 18

Update

STILL farming this

STILL only found the one portal

Zos, the portal spawn rate is clearly broken, fix it.

CGPsaint · May 18

I'll admit that I've been hard on ZoS over the years, and while this lead can be frustrating, it's not as broken as you make it out to be. I've completed the codex for that lead (3 times) and each time I alternated between 2 circuits and was able to reliably get a psijic portal every 1-2 laps. If I ran just 1 circuit then the nodes would not have time to spawn before I finished, but with 2 circuits I was able to hit the nodes shortly after respawn which meant that I was not losing many nodes to random people in the zone. Claiming only 1 psijic portal in 13 hours just comes off as a gross exaggeration.

notyuu · May 19

CGPsaint wrote: »

I'll admit that I've been hard on ZoS over the years, and while this lead can be frustrating, it's not as broken as you make it out to be. I've completed the codex for that lead (3 times) and each time I alternated between 2 circuits and was able to reliably get a psijic portal every 1-2 laps. If I ran just 1 circuit then the nodes would not have time to spawn before I finished, but with 2 circuits I was able to hit the nodes shortly after respawn which meant that I was not losing many nodes to random people in the zone. Claiming only 1 psijic portal in 13 hours just comes off as a gross exaggeration.

Kinda like what I'm doing

Also it's not exaggeration, I was literally farming for that long without finding more than the one portal, if you add in the two days since then the farming time is closer to 30 hours

yes, I know, unhealthy, to spend that long doing nothing, but whatever

BixenteN7Akantor · May 19

Ohohoh I remember farming codex entries for this one.
It took a whole Elsweyr event to drop one lead, so 7 days of ~6-7 hours of farming (with double drops so it's worth anyway).
Good luck bud

colossalvoids · May 19

It's not broken, if zone you've picked small enough with enough density you should encounter them from time to time, did that not long ago. If you have no patience or else IA is the second best bet as it would appear there eventually.

notyuu · May 19

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not broken, if zone you've picked small enough with enough density you should encounter them from time to time, did that not long ago. If you have no patience or else IA is the second best bet as it would appear there eventually.

So ya say, but if it was "time to time" I would have encountered more than just the 1 portal before farming enough to increase my stockpile from just shy of 71K to (i get a lot of enchanting surveys)...well, this

so something SOMEWHERE is clearly busted in the rng department

BuffNukem · May 19

What the heck does showing off Kutas obtained from doing surveys in other zones have anything to do with obtaining this lead?

As stated earlier by others, the fastest way to farm this lead is to do a very controlled circuit of ~30 nodes. It should take you about 5 mins to do a lap. You should get a decent amount of the nodes spawned back in each lap. Psijic portals will spawn at ~3-5% of the nodes, so you should be able to pop a portal every 2-3 laps on average.

For the 5+ times I've farmed this lead, it usually took me 10-20 psijic portals before the lead would drop. Thus you should expect about 30-60 laps for each time you farm this lead.

If you only found 1 portal in 30 hours of doing your farm, all I can say is you are doing it wrong and you need to do a more focus farming circuit.

I wouldn't even rank this lead in the top ten hardest leads to grind. It just takes a little time and effort to get and can be done solo with and with no overhead costs.

notyuu · May 19

BuffNukem wrote: »

What the heck does showing off Kutas obtained from doing surveys in other zones have anything to do with obtaining this lead?

As stated earlier by others, the fastest way to farm this lead is to do a very controlled circuit of ~30 nodes. It should take you about 5 mins to do a lap. You should get a decent amount of the nodes spawned back in each lap. Psijic portals will spawn at ~3-5% of the nodes, so you should be able to pop a portal every 2-3 laps on average.

For the 5+ times I've farmed this lead, it usually took me 10-20 psijic portals before the lead would drop. Thus you should expect about 30-60 laps for each time you farm this lead.

If you only found 1 portal in 30 hours of doing your farm, all I can say is you are doing it wrong and you need to do a more focus farming circuit.

I wouldn't even rank this lead in the top ten hardest leads to grind. It just takes a little time and effort to get and can be done solo with and with no overhead costs.

it shows that I did my tidy little circut 27 nodes so many times that I've managed to increase my kuta stockpile to stupid levels, and at this point it's well past 30 hours of trying with still just the one portal.

So simply put, something screwy is going on and/or is broken in th RNG department, so with that last grumble, I give up, at least until zos does something about this lunacy of (broken) RNG ontop of RNG or adds alternative sources for the lead.

BuffNukem · May 19

Its obvious that your problem isn't with the lead, but with your ability to generate or see psijic portals. Even if the lead had a 50% drop rate, only finding 1 portal is likely not enough to find it.

This might sound obvious, but make sure the toon you are farming has the Psijic skill line unlocked and a point into the "See the Unseen" passive for seeing portals. You may have seen your 1 portal on a toon that had it, but if you have been farming since on a toon without that passive, then your time is being wasted.

notyuu · May 19

BuffNukem wrote: »

Its obvious that your problem isn't with the lead, but with your ability to generate or see psijic portals. Even if the lead had a 50% drop rate, only finding 1 portal is likely not enough to find it.

This might sound obvious, but make sure the toon you are farming has the Psijic skill line unlocked and a point into the "See the Unseen" passive for seeing portals. You may have seen your 1 portal on a toon that had it, but if you have been farming since on a toon without that passive, then your time is being wasted.

Only got the one char, they have the passive due to being able to find the portal, if they didn't then the node spawns would come up empty, yet there's runestones there every time instead of a portal

BixenteN7Akantor · May 19

Psijic portals are just naturally rare.
With an extensive route I could get 3-4 portals an hour, yet it took me 7 days of 7 hours of farming to drop it.
No need for more debate, the drop rate is too bad for the scarcity of psijic portals.
Pls ZOS buff drop rate for most leads ty

ToRelax · May 19

This is almost certainly because of players opening portals but not taking rune stones. I'm surprised no one mentioned this. It's been this way forever.

The solution isn't running several circuits, but making sure things barely spawn in time for you to show up.

katanagirl1 · May 20

ToRelax wrote: »

This is almost certainly because of players opening portals but not taking rune stones. I'm surprised no one mentioned this. It's been this way forever.

The solution isn't running several circuits, but making sure things barely spawn in time for you to show up.

I’m fairly certain that leaving something in the Psijic portal will not make it look like a runestone. I’ve encountered cherry-picked portals before.

ToRelax · May 20

katanagirl1 wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

This is almost certainly because of players opening portals but not taking rune stones. I'm surprised no one mentioned this. It's been this way forever.

The solution isn't running several circuits, but making sure things barely spawn in time for you to show up.

I’m fairly certain that leaving something in the Psijic portal will not make it look like a runestone. I’ve encountered cherry-picked portals before.

You misunderstand. Players take everything from portals, making them despawn. They ignore the rune stone spawns. So if your farming circuit is too wide, portals get filtered out before you get there. And since Elsweyr has people farming dragons all day, there are always players on the move throughout the zone.

katanagirl1 · May 20

ToRelax wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

This is almost certainly because of players opening portals but not taking rune stones. I'm surprised no one mentioned this. It's been this way forever.

The solution isn't running several circuits, but making sure things barely spawn in time for you to show up.

I’m fairly certain that leaving something in the Psijic portal will not make it look like a runestone. I’ve encountered cherry-picked portals before.

You misunderstand. Players take everything from portals, making them despawn. They ignore the rune stone spawns. So if your farming circuit is too wide, portals get filtered out before you get there. And since Elsweyr has people farming dragons all day, there are always players on the move throughout the zone.

Oh I see what you are saying, sorry for the confusion on my part.

runa_gate · May 20

If it makes you feel any better even with 70k resists this set does almost no damage. 1/2 a skeever health bar.

It does work with vampire sprint invisibility but it's still nearly useless, despite sounding kinda cool. I tried it with every combo of "damage scales on resists" sets, one could simply slot any AoE stun instead of this. I wish it would be updated to be semi-useful, as running around as a pink comet with jet engine noises is fun (though only you can see and hear this)

CGPsaint · May 20

notyuu wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not broken, if zone you've picked small enough with enough density you should encounter them from time to time, did that not long ago. If you have no patience or else IA is the second best bet as it would appear there eventually.

So ya say, but if it was "time to time" I would have encountered more than just the 1 portal before farming enough to increase my stockpile from just shy of 71K to (i get a lot of enchanting surveys)...well, this

so something SOMEWHERE is clearly busted in the rng department

So you're saying that you managed to farm ~5K Kutas in ~30 hours and only encountered 1 psijic portal?

BixenteN7Akantor · May 20

runa_gate wrote: »

If it makes you feel any better even with 70k resists this set does almost no damage. 1/2 a skeever health bar.

It does work with vampire sprint invisibility but it's still nearly useless, despite sounding kinda cool. I tried it with every combo of "damage scales on resists" sets, one could simply slot any AoE stun instead of this. I wish it would be updated to be semi-useful, as running around as a pink comet with jet engine noises is fun (though only you can see and hear this)

It's underated but excellent in Cyrodiil where you can get stacks by playing normally.
Ez +10k resists without thinking about it.

notyuu · May 20

CGPsaint wrote: »

notyuu wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not broken, if zone you've picked small enough with enough density you should encounter them from time to time, did that not long ago. If you have no patience or else IA is the second best bet as it would appear there eventually.

So ya say, but if it was "time to time" I would have encountered more than just the 1 portal before farming enough to increase my stockpile from just shy of 71K to (i get a lot of enchanting surveys)...well, this

so something SOMEWHERE is clearly busted in the rng department

So you're saying that you managed to farm ~5K Kutas in ~30 hours and only encountered 1 psijic portal?

1: I said more than 30 hours (all nighters are "fun")
2: yes, only the 1 portal cuz I think the RNG is wack
3: i think the fact that I got an abnormally high amount of kuta (even if I was using max speed + master gather) might be related to the RNG being wack

Thinking about it reminds me of a bug from yonks back where some dude couldn't get crystal frags to proc ever for an entire maintaince cycle, so I'll wait for the maintaince on the 22nd and try again to see if things are better.

CGPsaint · May 20

notyuu wrote: »

CGPsaint wrote: »

notyuu wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not broken, if zone you've picked small enough with enough density you should encounter them from time to time, did that not long ago. If you have no patience or else IA is the second best bet as it would appear there eventually.

So ya say, but if it was "time to time" I would have encountered more than just the 1 portal before farming enough to increase my stockpile from just shy of 71K to (i get a lot of enchanting surveys)...well, this

so something SOMEWHERE is clearly busted in the rng department

So you're saying that you managed to farm ~5K Kutas in ~30 hours and only encountered 1 psijic portal?

1: I said more than 30 hours (all nighters are "fun")
2: yes, only the 1 portal cuz I think the RNG is wack
3: i think the fact that I got an abnormally high amount of kuta (even if I was using max speed + master gather) might be related to the RNG being wack

Thinking about it reminds me of a bug from yonks back where some dude couldn't get crystal frags to proc ever for an entire maintaince cycle, so I'll wait for the maintaince on the 22nd and try again to see if things are better.

Okay, so let's assume you farmed for 40 hours, that's still 125 Kutas per hour. Something's not adding up about your story, and it's not the math.

Just for fun... 5000 Kuta sell for 4500g-5000g each on Xbox/NA, so that would be 22.5m on the low end, and 25m on the high end. I honestly doubt that anyone would be upset about raking in 25m gold in 30-40 hours.

notyuu · May 20

CGPsaint wrote: »

notyuu wrote: »

CGPsaint wrote: »

notyuu wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not broken, if zone you've picked small enough with enough density you should encounter them from time to time, did that not long ago. If you have no patience or else IA is the second best bet as it would appear there eventually.

So ya say, but if it was "time to time" I would have encountered more than just the 1 portal before farming enough to increase my stockpile from just shy of 71K to (i get a lot of enchanting surveys)...well, this

so something SOMEWHERE is clearly busted in the rng department

So you're saying that you managed to farm ~5K Kutas in ~30 hours and only encountered 1 psijic portal?

1: I said more than 30 hours (all nighters are "fun")
2: yes, only the 1 portal cuz I think the RNG is wack
3: i think the fact that I got an abnormally high amount of kuta (even if I was using max speed + master gather) might be related to the RNG being wack

Thinking about it reminds me of a bug from yonks back where some dude couldn't get crystal frags to proc ever for an entire maintaince cycle, so I'll wait for the maintaince on the 22nd and try again to see if things are better.

Okay, so let's assume you farmed for 40 hours, that's still 125 Kutas per hour. Something's not adding up about your story, and it's not the math.

Just for fun... 5000 Kuta sell for 4500g-5000g each on Xbox/NA, so that would be 22.5m on the low end, and 25m on the high end. I honestly doubt that anyone would be upset about raking in 25m gold in 30-40 hours.

closer to 60 hours honestly, at least before i quit trying to farm it, was getting 1-2 kuta every 2-3 nodes with the occasional spike, which I'm well aware is abnormal, hence why i submitted a buy report about it after notcing it happening about 4 times in a row (and fully expect them to be removed like what happened with that one time and the exp scroll in my mail), and yeah, pile of coin...but kinda moot as got nothing to spend it on and giving it away just makes beggers.

However my bugged out kuta spawns is all besides the inital point of the thread which is.

Zos Needs to add a secondry source for the lead to drop from so it's not RNG ontop of RNG

TaSheen · May 20

I would love to be able to give you the lead I got out of a portal near South Guard Ruins a couple of days ago. I don't want the mythic, and I'm really not very interested in scrying/digging the lead either.

I don't go to S Elsweyr much, and IIRC that's only about the 4th or 5th portal I've ever seen there - in maybe 20 trips total (that's probably an over-estimation actually). I've always found lots of rune nodes when I've been there, though.

Vulkunne · May 21

notyuu wrote: »

Could we get an alternative source added for the Dov-Rah sabaton Toe Cap lead?

as it stands right now it only drops from psijic portals in soutner elsweyr, but the problem with that is psijic portals are functionally extinct in southern elsweyr

ya plot out a small circut of runestones to farm out to try and get a portal
you run it and farm constnaly for hours and all you get is runestones without seeing a single portal

so once again, can we get another source for the lead added to the game?

Update: I have been non-stop farming/hunting portals for almost 4 hours at this point and I have only encountered ONE psijic portal in this entire time, so maybe Zos should increase their spawn rate up from 0.0001%?

Update 2: 13 hours later only seen the one portal....what the fork is going on with this rng?

If you look at a map for this zone, its fairly easy to see where the runes are. The same thing with the Argonian Beads lead from Shadowfen.

Initially I had great difficulty with this until I looked at the map and noticed patterns. If you're used to farming nodes in Craglorn or anything like that you get used to leaning on the geography from time to time. Once I realized this I found the lead the very next day. Although yeah it still took a little while to find it on the same day.

That said, it makes sense ZOS ties the Mythic lead's locations in with the geography of certain zones. Really feels like you're more on an expedition and not just traveling between waypoints. What many interpret as being unreasonable is actually I believe working as intended.

El_Borracho · May 21

This is, BY FAR, the most annoying lead in the game as you are at the mercy of the RNG for the game placing a psijic portal instead of a rune node, then RNG for getting the lead. Its maddening

katanagirl1 · May 21

Vulkunne wrote: »

notyuu wrote: »

Could we get an alternative source added for the Dov-Rah sabaton Toe Cap lead?

as it stands right now it only drops from psijic portals in soutner elsweyr, but the problem with that is psijic portals are functionally extinct in southern elsweyr

ya plot out a small circut of runestones to farm out to try and get a portal
you run it and farm constnaly for hours and all you get is runestones without seeing a single portal

so once again, can we get another source for the lead added to the game?

Update: I have been non-stop farming/hunting portals for almost 4 hours at this point and I have only encountered ONE psijic portal in this entire time, so maybe Zos should increase their spawn rate up from 0.0001%?

Update 2: 13 hours later only seen the one portal....what the fork is going on with this rng?

If you look at a map for this zone, its fairly easy to see where the runes are. The same thing with the Argonian Beads lead from Shadowfen.

Initially I had great difficulty with this until I looked at the map and noticed patterns. If you're used to farming nodes in Craglorn or anything like that you get used to leaning on the geography from time to time. Once I realized this I found the lead the very next day. Although yeah it still took a little while to find it on the same day.

That said, it makes sense ZOS ties the Mythic lead's locations in with the geography of certain zones. Really feels like you're more on an expedition and not just traveling between waypoints. What many interpret as being unreasonable is actually I believe working as intended.

Does anyone know where a map for the runestones in that zone exists online for console players? I have tried finding the lead but only see a handful of runestones in an hour or so and get bored and log off.

Vulkunne · May 22

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

notyuu wrote: »

Could we get an alternative source added for the Dov-Rah sabaton Toe Cap lead?

as it stands right now it only drops from psijic portals in soutner elsweyr, but the problem with that is psijic portals are functionally extinct in southern elsweyr

ya plot out a small circut of runestones to farm out to try and get a portal
you run it and farm constnaly for hours and all you get is runestones without seeing a single portal

so once again, can we get another source for the lead added to the game?

Update: I have been non-stop farming/hunting portals for almost 4 hours at this point and I have only encountered ONE psijic portal in this entire time, so maybe Zos should increase their spawn rate up from 0.0001%?

Update 2: 13 hours later only seen the one portal....what the fork is going on with this rng?

If you look at a map for this zone, its fairly easy to see where the runes are. The same thing with the Argonian Beads lead from Shadowfen.

Initially I had great difficulty with this until I looked at the map and noticed patterns. If you're used to farming nodes in Craglorn or anything like that you get used to leaning on the geography from time to time. Once I realized this I found the lead the very next day. Although yeah it still took a little while to find it on the same day.

That said, it makes sense ZOS ties the Mythic lead's locations in with the geography of certain zones. Really feels like you're more on an expedition and not just traveling between waypoints. What many interpret as being unreasonable is actually I believe working as intended.

Does anyone know where a map for the runestones in that zone exists online for console players? I have tried finding the lead but only see a handful of runestones in an hour or so and get bored and log off.

So it depends. Yes there is a Harvest Map mod which helps with things like this quite a bit. However, there is a more pragmatic approach. The first thing you notice about this zone is its a mess with lots of hills, breaks and mountains. Ok so where is the most traversable land? And the answer is, the rivers. For some reason Runes seem to spawn frequently along rivers in this game.

Therefore, from a simple viewing of the map the first thing I did was check the rivers and shor enough, not only did I see other players farming runes, I came back later and there were lots of them spawning along the rivers. Once this was realized I was able to work out a fast route and found what I needed within a few hours I think (1 or 2 hours).

virtus753 · May 22

You also get two pulls from a single Psijic Portal with resource events, so the upcoming Explorer's Celebration might help. You'll still have to find the portals, but you'll get two chances at the lead per portal when you do.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · May 22

In the center of the map there is a small area where 4 rune stones are with short sight of each other in a circle(ish) pattern. You can farm all four quickly, waiting for one to become a portal. It took me a little more than an hour to get the lead. You can find maps on Google that show the rune stone locations if you are on console.

method__01 · May 22

"katanagirl wrote:

Does anyone know where a map for the runestones in that zone exists online for console players? I have tried finding the lead but only see a handful of runestones in an hour or so and get bored and log off.

try to have some toons into area and rotate them ,iirc the lead drop for me North ,North west (where the dragon is on map mow)

good luck