How about storing surveys in the Craft bag?

FlopsyPrince

Why not push surveys into the craft bag?

notyuu

Or you just do the surveys to get the materials in your bag?

RexyCat

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Why not push surveys into the craft bag?

Isn't CraftBag only meant to be for material? Survey map is maps that will show you location of several nodes from the same type of material that you can farm. Turn those Survey into material from farming those nodes and you will have that material going directly into CraftBag.

If anything should be changed, then I wish to be able to put all maps (Treasure and Survey) into your personal Bank stacked. As for now you can not stack same type of maps and move them into Bank which can be annoying as you have brink up your Bank Assistant take out map to farm same node again.

FlopsyPrince

RexyCat wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Why not push surveys into the craft bag?

Isn't CraftBag only meant to be for material? Survey map is maps that will show you location of several nodes from the same type of material that you can farm. Turn those Survey into material from farming those nodes and you will have that material going directly into CraftBag.

If anything should be changed, then I wish to be able to put all maps (Treasure and Survey) into your personal Bank stacked. As for now you can not stack same type of maps and move them into Bank which can be annoying as you have brink up your Bank Assistant take out map to farm same node again.

The surveys are very related to materials.

notyuu wrote: »

Or you just do the surveys to get the materials in your bag?

Because I want to play the game otherwise, including the never-ending quest for skyshards. I don't want to get mats in random locations every time I do daily crafting.

Though it never ceases to amaze me how some are so opposed to making things more enjoyable to play!

vsrs_au

RexyCat wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Why not push surveys into the craft bag?

Isn't CraftBag only meant to be for material? Survey map is maps that will show you location of several nodes from the same type of material that you can farm. Turn those Survey into material from farming those nodes and you will have that material going directly into CraftBag.

If anything should be changed, then I wish to be able to put all maps (Treasure and Survey) into your personal Bank stacked. As for now you can not stack same type of maps and move them into Bank which can be annoying as you have brink up your Bank Assistant take out map to farm same node again.

Agreed, putting surveys into the craft bag makes no sense. Making them stackable, though, would be a great improvement to the game, as it would make inventory management a fair bit easier for crafters. That would definitely make the game more enjoyable to play.

joergino

vsrs_au wrote: »

Agreed, putting surveys into the craft bag makes no sense. Making them stackable, though, would be a great improvement to the game, as it would make inventory management a fair bit easier for crafters. That would definitely make the game more enjoyable to play.

They are stackable. The problem is not getting the yield for the entire stack when harvesting a survey. The material of only a single survey is harvested and for each additional copy one has to either ride away and back or move to a different zone by other means (like an unowned home). Only then the materials from the next survey in the stack appear.

You might be thinking of treasure maps. They pretend to be unique and thus don't stack and you can only have a single copy in your inventory. That is also incredibly annoying, but you're bound to get more surveys than treasure maps, at least when you do some daily crafting.

Lady_Galadhiel

Or there could be a separate bag for treasure and survey maps included in ESO plus.

radiostar

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

Or there could be a separate bag for treasure and survey maps included in ESO plus.

Good idea. They ask what could enhance Plus, and that would do it at least.

Vrienda

Yes please. I've got hundreds of the things. Having them be in the craft bag would have the bonus of making them both account wide and not take up bag space, so they'd be much more comfortable to actually do as and when you're in the area.

Vulkunne

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Why not push surveys into the craft bag?

Add some furnishing to the game, and we'll call it a 'filing cabinet' where XP Scrolls, Maps, Surveys and even Lore books can be placed. Only for documents, nothing else.

Vulkunne

notyuu wrote: »

Or you just do the surveys to get the materials in your bag?

Because too many 'loose' items generates clutter in the inventory... even if the thing itself isn't meant to. It just looks unorganized and takes up unnecessary space.

Also, some of us have real world stuff and it takes time to track down these maps and surveys so we don't always have time for that. Case in point, I usually just hand out my Maps for free for same reason. Its just not worth me taking resources away from other things to pursue. Obviously, surveys are more valuable but still.

ArchangelIsraphel

It would be really nice if they'd give us an account wide survey/map bag (And make treasure maps stackable) so that surveys and maps from all characters would automatically go in this part of the inventory, just like with mats.

Since we end up lugging this data around everywhere anyway in our main inventory, I don't see how it would make a difference to have it organized into a separate inventory for ESO+

It would be such a nice QOL feature, also because passing surveys through the bank to the main crafter can be a pain when you have a ton of alts.

Desiato

I'd be fine with surveys and treasure maps being stored in a new section in Collections.

However, this is unlikely to happen because the widely recognized main benefit of ESO+ is the craft bag because of inventory constraints.

This is fair enough as a B2P game that was originally a sub based game. They have to get revenue from somewhere, so I'm not complaining. At least they introduced Antiquities without an added inventory burden.

I guess sections in Collections for surveys and treasure maps could be added as benefit of ESO+.

EdjeSwift

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

It would be really nice if they'd give us an account wide survey/map bag (And make treasure maps stackable) so that surveys and maps from all characters would automatically go in this part of the inventory, just like with mats.

Since we end up lugging this data around everywhere anyway in our main inventory, I don't see how it would make a difference to have it organized into a separate inventory for ESO+

It would be such a nice QOL feature, also because passing surveys through the bank to the main crafter can be a pain when you have a ton of alts.

As a crafter I would not want this system.

With my many alts I don't want to accidentally hit a node on a non-CP having/non-max crafting level character and lose a whole survey. Once you hit a node in the survey the spawn is done and you can clean it up or leave it behind. For the sheer amount of extra resources I get from passing the surveys to proper gatherers I'm happy to take the time to pass it through the bank.

I can see why others find this system trying and annoying, but for those who thrive using it, this suggestion isn't ideal.

ArchangelIsraphel

EdjeSwift wrote: »

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

It would be really nice if they'd give us an account wide survey/map bag (And make treasure maps stackable) so that surveys and maps from all characters would automatically go in this part of the inventory, just like with mats.

Since we end up lugging this data around everywhere anyway in our main inventory, I don't see how it would make a difference to have it organized into a separate inventory for ESO+

It would be such a nice QOL feature, also because passing surveys through the bank to the main crafter can be a pain when you have a ton of alts.

As a crafter I would not want this system.

With my many alts I don't want to accidentally hit a node on a non-CP having/non-max crafting level character and lose a whole survey. Once you hit a node in the survey the spawn is done and you can clean it up or leave it behind. For the sheer amount of extra resources I get from passing the surveys to proper gatherers I'm happy to take the time to pass it through the bank.

I can see why others find this system trying and annoying, but for those who thrive using it, this suggestion isn't ideal.

Easily solved by adding a toggle to "activate" seeing the surveys in the world on a per-character basis. Have the toggle located on the inventory page where surveys are stored, for ease of access, similar to the checkbox on the deconstruction assistant which hides banked items. Have it turned off by default, so that it can be checked to "on" on master crafters. On characters where it is off, the survey nodes don't appear.

Since survey nodes are already inactive if the survey is not in the characters inventory, but instead stored in another location, underlying code/behavior already exists in the game to make such a toggle possible.

I'm a crafter, and it isn't that I'm NOT thriving using this system as it is- I am. I'd just like a smoother, more user friendly experience that cuts out some time wasted shuffling inventory across many characters.

Hapexamendios

I'd probably just forget about them if they were in the craft bag.

TheMajority

sounds like a great idea, I see no down side at all. would alleviate a lot of the inventory struggle during events

Silaf

I'm eso+ but still the inventory management is a continuous annoyance. I guess Zos is trying to force people to subscribe but if we have the subscription at least let us play.

RexyCat

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Because I want to play the game otherwise, including the never-ending quest for skyshards. I don't want to get mats in random locations every time I do daily crafting.

Though it never ceases to amaze me how some are so opposed to making things more enjoyable to play!

Explain how turning Survey maps into Crafting material (without going to node and farm it) would make this a "more enjoyable to play" game? I for my part like to get those maps and farm those when I am in that zone of map.

There are add ons that can help to see where on main map you can find those and also add on that will show from Inventory where and how many you have of both Survey and Treasure maps. You only need to have Bank Assistant where you can store one more identical Survey or Treasure map and with mail a third identical Survey or Treasure where use RTS to keep in returning mail until you would want to use it.

You only need to move a bit from where found that node to reset it (in the old system you would have to move until you had a loading screen), so things have become much easier then before as farming those maps.

With CP gathering a node will only take one strike when farming each node, then the default non-CP two strikes, at least for Ore and Wood nodes.

If you don't enjoy to get those maps, then just set up a filter from any add on that have that feature to auto delete Survey and Treasure maps.

belial5221_ESO

Do em as you get em,then no more in inv,and continue playing game.Even if stored in craftbag or whatever,you still gonna eventually have to farm only surveys as they build up.Same with trasure maps,do em as you get em,no more storage issue.

SeaGtGruff

At least crafting surveys stack. I divide them up by zone and move them to my alts; each alt stores surveys for one or more specific zones. My original intention was to give all the surveys for a given zone to a character who was playing through that zone, but now it's just to keep the surveys from filling up my bank account.

Non-stackable treasure maps and runeboxes are a bigger pain, in my opinion.

PS-- And there's nothing wrong with players wanting to suggest ideas for QoL improvements in the game.

kargen27

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

RexyCat wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Why not push surveys into the craft bag?

Isn't CraftBag only meant to be for material? Survey map is maps that will show you location of several nodes from the same type of material that you can farm. Turn those Survey into material from farming those nodes and you will have that material going directly into CraftBag.

If anything should be changed, then I wish to be able to put all maps (Treasure and Survey) into your personal Bank stacked. As for now you can not stack same type of maps and move them into Bank which can be annoying as you have brink up your Bank Assistant take out map to farm same node again.

The surveys are very related to materials.

notyuu wrote: »

Or you just do the surveys to get the materials in your bag?

Because I want to play the game otherwise, including the never-ending quest for skyshards. I don't want to get mats in random locations every time I do daily crafting.

Though it never ceases to amaze me how some are so opposed to making things more enjoyable to play!

What would be enjoyable for you might not be for other players. Players can ignore the surveys, delete the surveys of do the surveys. Choice is theirs. I wouldn't mind if surveys went into the craft bag or something similar with the usual caveat. If it impacts server performance in any way (and server performance is what limits our inventory space) then it should be a no go. I'm fairly sure surveys didn't always stack so things are already better than when we started.

vsrs_au

joergino wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Agreed, putting surveys into the craft bag makes no sense. Making them stackable, though, would be a great improvement to the game, as it would make inventory management a fair bit easier for crafters. That would definitely make the game more enjoyable to play.

They are stackable. The problem is not getting the yield for the entire stack when harvesting a survey. The material of only a single survey is harvested and for each additional copy one has to either ride away and back or move to a different zone by other means (like an unowned home). Only then the materials from the next survey in the stack appear.

You might be thinking of treasure maps. They pretend to be unique and thus don't stack and you can only have a single copy in your inventory. That is also incredibly annoying, but you're bound to get more surveys than treasure maps, at least when you do some daily crafting.

Sorry, my mistake, yes I was thinking of treasure maps, not surveys.

Mithgil

This is a player-made issue that pops up "constantly".

Initially crafting surveys weren't stackable (as far as I know). Then ZOS made them stackable, by each particular node.

Some players have basically decided not to do the crafting surveys allowing them to stack up in their inventories/banks.

Because each survey node is kind of a mini-instance (don't shoot me if I have the mechanical concept wrong, it's the idea) if you have a stack of surveys for that particular node you need to travel far enough away to allow that node to respawn, thus making it a huge pain in the butt to do a stack of surveys for the same node.

It's a player-made self-inflicted problem. There are several threads that complain about this.

My suggestion would be perhaps you would have to "activate" the node by pressing R on the survey, thus generating the node to harvest. Why R? Because E activates a mini-map pop-up showing the player where the node is located.

I just tend to take the time to try and run the surveys every day so I don't end up with "way too many" to do. I don't do them every day, but several times a week (5 out of 7 days), and it doesn't take long as usually I'm dealing with a dozen surveys or less. It's rare that I'll have say a stack of 2 surveys for the same spot, let alone 3, so when that occurs it again isn't a huge issue. I have a good idea how far I have to ride away, or even just use instancing say to pop into IC and pop right back out on top of the same spot.

The players that have decided to let surveys pile up are essentially wanting ZOS to solve a problem the player has inflicted on themselves.

Juju_beans

Because then you would never do your surveys .......due to "infinite storage".

I have a 30 slot container and when that gets full...well it's off to do surveys.

NoSoup

I think it would be great to have the surveys go into the crafting bag. By this, I only mean the "survey map" and not the actual materials. It is a bit of a punish having to log onto all my different characters to deposit the maps before going off to harvest them all. I generally wait until I've racked up a few hundred then spend one day a year harvesting them all. I have no quarms with having to do the actual harvesting but with the surveys dropping from other sources now than just crafting writs it's a bit annoying having them spread out over every character I play on.

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Sakiri

Just do them or delete them or something.

FlopsyPrince

kargen27 wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

RexyCat wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Why not push surveys into the craft bag?

Isn't CraftBag only meant to be for material? Survey map is maps that will show you location of several nodes from the same type of material that you can farm. Turn those Survey into material from farming those nodes and you will have that material going directly into CraftBag.

If anything should be changed, then I wish to be able to put all maps (Treasure and Survey) into your personal Bank stacked. As for now you can not stack same type of maps and move them into Bank which can be annoying as you have brink up your Bank Assistant take out map to farm same node again.

The surveys are very related to materials.

notyuu wrote: »

Or you just do the surveys to get the materials in your bag?

Because I want to play the game otherwise, including the never-ending quest for skyshards. I don't want to get mats in random locations every time I do daily crafting.

Though it never ceases to amaze me how some are so opposed to making things more enjoyable to play!

What would be enjoyable for you might not be for other players. Players can ignore the surveys, delete the surveys of do the surveys. Choice is theirs. I wouldn't mind if surveys went into the craft bag or something similar with the usual caveat. If it impacts server performance in any way (and server performance is what limits our inventory space) then it should be a no go. I'm fairly sure surveys didn't always stack so things are already better than when we started.

So don't ask for the change. But how would me having it harm your play? I have yet to see that.

To the one saying they couldn't see the benefit I would ask "Really?" Gathering surveys is so tedious that I do let them pile up which makes them even more tedious! They pile up because I have plenty to do in the game without them, not because I am "lazy".

I have raised "lazy" kids and this is a far different issue! Gathering surveys is not a regular requirement and is thus can be a lower priority.

Czeri

I'd love it if they went to the craft bag. Because of the volume I have to split them currently between two alts, but having them available all the time for all the alts would have made picking them up so much easier. So many times I would end up in a spot where I knew a survey was on an alt that didn't have it on them, and cursed the missed opportunity.

Rasande_Robin

Just give us another subscription called ESO++

That gives us a furniture bag and a paperbag (survey, treasure maps, master writs, exp scrolls and so on)