Where is the option allows out of date add-ons gone?

Sugram22

Where is the option allows out of date add-ons gone? example skyshards and lore books out of date and cant make it work cause the option is gone, how to make the addones work? and many other adds that mite be out of date that i had and currently don't remember sins i installed ESO to my new rig

kringled_1

Sugram22 wrote: »

Where is the option allows out of date add-ons gone? example skyshards and lore books out of date and cant make it work cause the option is gone, how to make the addones work? and many other adds that mite be out of date that i had and currently don't remember sins i installed ESO to my new rig

They removed it because its essentially always on now.
If you have an add-on thats not working, its for a different reason than being marked out of date. Most often, the addon has added a new library dependency that you have to download separately.

Necrotech_Master

yeah they removed that setting because it was honestly just annoying, for someone who uses a fair number of addons after a patch 80% of them could be marked out of date but still would work, so i would have to go in and remember to enable the out of date addons before logging in

the option was removed and the current state treats it as always enabled, so out of date addons will still be loaded

to make it easier to transfer between computers, or if you replaced a computer, is to make a backup copy of your addons folder + saved variables folder to like a flash drive and then you can just re-copy those to sync multiple computers or from a fresh install on new computer

Sugram22

kringled_1 wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Where is the option allows out of date add-ons gone? example skyshards and lore books out of date and cant make it work cause the option is gone, how to make the addones work? and many other adds that mite be out of date that i had and currently don't remember sins i installed ESO to my new rig

They removed it because its essentially always on now.
If you have an add-on thats not working, its for a different reason than being marked out of date. Most often, the addon has added a new library dependency that you have to download separately.

ok, sucks cause i remembered and got more adds i use to have but even the lib files i downloaded are out of date and only 2 mods started working cause example skyshards has list of different lib files and 1or 2were red, lets just say my mod number is below 10, + the extra stuff i got to make them work but most didn't

Necrotech_Master

if an addon is showing as red, that means its missing another dependency (either another full addon, or a lib addon)

you can use the little arrow next to it to expand and see which one its missing

Sugram22

i discovered a chain, new only thing red is harvest map
new thins appeared on add-one lists what are also red, what i didn't install so i guess it needs this things, but this things don't exist on addon list

Harvestmap-ad-zones
Harvestmap-dc-zones
Harvestmap-dlc-zones
Harvestmap-ep-zones
Harvestmap-NoFaction-zones

Necrotech_Master

some of the addons do "tricks" like that to basically utilize more storage space than a normal single addon can handle, in this case harvest map breaks up the storage into "subaddons" in this case one for each set of zones (harvest map has to store a lot of data for all of the individual nodes)

there should also be a "main" addon too which would just show as "harvestmap" in the list too

RexyCat

Sugram22 wrote: »

i discovered a chain, new only thing red is harvest map
new thins appeared on add-one lists what are also red, what i didn't install so i guess it needs this things, but this things don't exist on addon list

Harvestmap-ad-zones
Harvestmap-dc-zones
Harvestmap-dlc-zones
Harvestmap-ep-zones
Harvestmap-NoFaction-zones

Are you using Minion to handle updating addon or are you installing every addon manually?

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1161-AddonSelectorSaveAddOnprofilespacks.html

Addon Selector add a search field on the right side (not the field where you name packages) which is useful to fast find addon by name. It also have two button, one for Addon and the second button for going directly to where Libraries start (those addon that start with "Lib" in their name).

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1161-AddonSelectorSaveAddOnprofilespacks.html

Votan's Addon List will add a green icon on the side as you can see from images for that addon which explains dependency of add on to Libraries.

I would recommend to download and install both as those will help you to see what Libraries is needed to run with which addon even if you will not use packages (it is a collection of add on that you can disable or enable instead of manually having to do this every time, if you don't need or want a group of addon to be active all the time). There are also some other tools like keybinding to do /reloadui and some other things that are useful.

With Minion and those addon above I haven't had any problem with last patch for game and addon to run. Minion did update some addon when I let it check for updates after patch and then updated game client, and had no issues with Harven's HarvestMaps or any other addon related maps (Minimap from Fyrakin).

Sugram22

silly me seems there was a chain, to find out all missing things i had to quit multiple time lol
got 1thing that also required a second thing


off topic


after exiting game i got message, for got what it said but it mentioned previous install failing (and that reinstalling game may fix it) and in reliability monitor there was this

Description
Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Zenimax Online\The Elder Scrolls Online\game\client\eso64.exe

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: BEX64
Application Name: eso64.exe
Application Version: 1.0.0.1
Application Timestamp: 66206cfd
Fault Module Name: d3d11.dll_unloaded
Fault Module Version: 10.0.19041.3636
Fault Module Timestamp: 70aaae07
Exception Offset: 000000000004edbe
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Data: 0000000000000008
OS Version: 10.0.19045.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 1e37
Additional Information 2: 1e373e69fff075aed81f57003e66ce10
Additional Information 3: 9f0e
Additional Information 4: 9f0e095f32a88249d7a2b7eca4e322ea

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: caac46165bc5420629cbf0a8adbbc5b4 (1858843878480397748)


but i guess its just typical game acting crazy? sins it works, cause in my old rig there were Error reports with ESO as well time to time, specially when exiting and relaunching game multiple times

though in add and remove program ESO did move up from minion despite the fact i installed minion after ESO

also possible that this time i did some things 2fast, exiting then opening minion then going back fast as play button was ready, who knows what can trigger this issues

Necrotech_Master

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

Sugram22

it happened again new i can show the message, but the reason said in it is different

and this happened when i exited game



Description
Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Zenimax Online\The Elder Scrolls Online\game\client\eso64.exe

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: BEX64
Application Name: eso64.exe
Application Version: 1.0.0.1
Application Timestamp: 66206cfd
Fault Module Name: d3d11.dll_unloaded
Fault Module Version: 10.0.19041.3636
Fault Module Timestamp: 70aaae07
Exception Offset: 000000000004edbe
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Data: 0000000000000008
OS Version: 10.0.19045.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 1e37
Additional Information 2: 1e373e69fff075aed81f57003e66ce10
Additional Information 3: 9f0e
Additional Information 4: 9f0e095f32a88249d7a2b7eca4e322ea

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: caac46165bc5420629cbf0a8adbbc5b4 (1858843878480397748)

Sugram22

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

OK, so normally add ones cause false positives

Dack_Janiels

Sugram22 wrote: »

silly me seems there was a chain, to find out all missing things i had to quit multiple time lol
got 1thing that also required a second thing


off topic


after exiting game i got message, for got what it said but it mentioned previous install failing (and that reinstalling game may fix it) and in reliability monitor there was this

Description
Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Zenimax Online\The Elder Scrolls Online\game\client\eso64.exe

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: BEX64
Application Name: eso64.exe
Application Version: 1.0.0.1
Application Timestamp: 66206cfd
Fault Module Name: d3d11.dll_unloaded
Fault Module Version: 10.0.19041.3636
Fault Module Timestamp: 70aaae07
Exception Offset: 000000000004edbe
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Data: 0000000000000008
OS Version: 10.0.19045.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 1e37
Additional Information 2: 1e373e69fff075aed81f57003e66ce10
Additional Information 3: 9f0e
Additional Information 4: 9f0e095f32a88249d7a2b7eca4e322ea

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: caac46165bc5420629cbf0a8adbbc5b4 (1858843878480397748)


but i guess its just typical game acting crazy? sins it works, cause in my old rig there were Error reports with ESO as well time to time, specially when exiting and relaunching game multiple times

though in add and remove program ESO did move up from minion despite the fact i installed minion after ESO

also possible that this time i did some things 2fast, exiting then opening minion then going back fast as play button was ready, who knows what can trigger this issues

@ZOS_Bill

Necrotech_Master

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

OK, so normally add ones cause false positives

more like based on your other errors it sounds like you need to initiate a repair from the launcher

ive never seen that error about "game crash detected" and i use close to 40 addons (also rarely do i ever see ESO crash)

so more likely theres actually some corrupted files, either they didnt install correctly, or it installed to a bad sector in your HD, but i doubt addons are the reason your game is crashing

Sugram22

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

OK, so normally add ones cause false positives

more like based on your other errors it sounds like you need to initiate a repair from the launcher

ive never seen that error about "game crash detected" and i use close to 40 addons (also rarely do i ever see ESO crash)

so more likely theres actually some corrupted files, either they didnt install correctly, or it installed to a bad sector in your HD, but i doubt addons are the reason your game is crashing

strange then that it doesn't happen after awry exit, cause corrupt files should always cause a issue not just sometimes?, as much as i know about computer stuff, not a expert though

Necrotech_Master

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

OK, so normally add ones cause false positives

more like based on your other errors it sounds like you need to initiate a repair from the launcher

ive never seen that error about "game crash detected" and i use close to 40 addons (also rarely do i ever see ESO crash)

so more likely theres actually some corrupted files, either they didnt install correctly, or it installed to a bad sector in your HD, but i doubt addons are the reason your game is crashing

strange then that it doesn't happen after awry exit, cause corrupt files should always cause a issue not just sometimes?, as much as i know about computer stuff, not a expert though

it depends on which, and how many, files are corrupted

a very small handful of files, might happen rarely, but if your frequently crashing on exit of game, the files that could have problems might be related to handling the game shutdown

Sugram22

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

OK, so normally add ones cause false positives

more like based on your other errors it sounds like you need to initiate a repair from the launcher

ive never seen that error about "game crash detected" and i use close to 40 addons (also rarely do i ever see ESO crash)

so more likely theres actually some corrupted files, either they didnt install correctly, or it installed to a bad sector in your HD, but i doubt addons are the reason your game is crashing

strange then that it doesn't happen after awry exit, cause corrupt files should always cause a issue not just sometimes?, as much as i know about computer stuff, not a expert though

it depends on which, and how many, files are corrupted

a very small handful of files, might happen rarely, but if your frequently crashing on exit of game, the files that could have problems might be related to handling the game shutdown

well i did repair anyway, but i do remember having issues on exist in my old rig to with ESO, with new rig i think 1singleplay game also give a error on exit sometimes, but invisible error, by that i mean not on the screen just under OS'es error reports window

if it continues then i guess its just compatibility issue with something what came takes as corrupted files issue?

Sugram22

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

OK, so normally add ones cause false positives

more like based on your other errors it sounds like you need to initiate a repair from the launcher

ive never seen that error about "game crash detected" and i use close to 40 addons (also rarely do i ever see ESO crash)

so more likely theres actually some corrupted files, either they didnt install correctly, or it installed to a bad sector in your HD, but i doubt addons are the reason your game is crashing

well it happened again so seems launcher saying its corrupted files fault is false (launcher sys thinks files are corrupted when in reality its some other issue), i guess its typical bug that will always be there

its new rig so cant be hard drive sector issue

Necrotech_Master

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

OK, so normally add ones cause false positives

more like based on your other errors it sounds like you need to initiate a repair from the launcher

ive never seen that error about "game crash detected" and i use close to 40 addons (also rarely do i ever see ESO crash)

so more likely theres actually some corrupted files, either they didnt install correctly, or it installed to a bad sector in your HD, but i doubt addons are the reason your game is crashing

well it happened again so seems launcher saying its corrupted files fault is false (launcher sys thinks files are corrupted when in reality its some other issue), i guess its typical bug that will always be there

its new rig so cant be hard drive sector issue

weird, not sure how much more help ill be though, ive personally never had that error and ive had eso installed across 5 different computers over the last 10 years of playing lol

Sugram22

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the windows "add or remove programs" list is by default ordered alphabetically, but the ordering has no bearing on anything, its just listing all of your installed applications lol

as for the game crash when exiting, that is an entirely different issue that wouldnt be related to the addons lol, the addons stop running when you exit the game

OK, so normally add ones cause false positives

more like based on your other errors it sounds like you need to initiate a repair from the launcher

ive never seen that error about "game crash detected" and i use close to 40 addons (also rarely do i ever see ESO crash)

so more likely theres actually some corrupted files, either they didnt install correctly, or it installed to a bad sector in your HD, but i doubt addons are the reason your game is crashing

well it happened again so seems launcher saying its corrupted files fault is false (launcher sys thinks files are corrupted when in reality its some other issue), i guess its typical bug that will always be there

its new rig so cant be hard drive sector issue

weird, not sure how much more help ill be though, ive personally never had that error and ive had eso installed across 5 different computers over the last 10 years of playing lol

OK i in the other had had some type of error in awry rig, in 3 rigs, this is 3th one so in 2before this1, i don't remember what type of error but i had

also many ppl had issue with FO4 mod take over nuka world with minutemen, using it cause to crash to desktop, but in my previous rig where i had it, i had no issues with that

so i think it all comes down to hardware and software compatibility with game, either hardware or software or combination of all 3, but that's a sort of a issue only the devs of the3 can fix it if they find the issue

Sugram22

not 100% sure but according to 1formum d3d11.dll issue can be addon related, more down cause solutions offered above didn't work for him
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/210428/eso-exe-and-d3d11-dll-hate-each-other

sure its possible d3d11.dll could be related to other issues to but addons are not ruled out, if its adds then probably cause new system where adds were separated from library and need u to install Lib and other stuff separately to work

if it is adds i suspect 1of this or combination of them:
Votan's Fish Fillet
Votan's Fisherman
HarvestMap
cause this 3 are the biggest changes to game, compare to mini map and sky shards and lore books


also HarvestMap may conflict with resource radar sins 2similar adds

my adds

vsrs_au

Sugram22 wrote: »

not 100% sure but according to 1formum d3d11.dll issue can be addon related, more down cause solutions offered above didn't work for him
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/210428/eso-exe-and-d3d11-dll-hate-each-other

sure its possible d3d11.dll could be related to other issues to but addons are not ruled out, if its adds then probably cause new system where adds were separated from library and need u to install Lib and other stuff separately to work

if it is adds i suspect 1of this or combination of them:
Votan's Fish Fillet
Votan's Fisherman
HarvestMap
cause this 3 are the biggest changes to game, compare to mini map and sky shards and lore books


also HarvestMap may conflict with resource radar sins 2similar adds

I've used the fish filet and harvest map addons for years, and (like Necrotech_Master) have 45 addons installed (not counting the 'lib' addons), and have no problems with these addons. I also have only seen the game crash once or maybe twice in the last 3 years I've played it. I don't have the fisherman or resource radar addons installed, though.

Sugram22

vsrs_au wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

not 100% sure but according to 1formum d3d11.dll issue can be addon related, more down cause solutions offered above didn't work for him
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/210428/eso-exe-and-d3d11-dll-hate-each-other

sure its possible d3d11.dll could be related to other issues to but addons are not ruled out, if its adds then probably cause new system where adds were separated from library and need u to install Lib and other stuff separately to work

if it is adds i suspect 1of this or combination of them:
Votan's Fish Fillet
Votan's Fisherman
HarvestMap
cause this 3 are the biggest changes to game, compare to mini map and sky shards and lore books


also HarvestMap may conflict with resource radar sins 2similar adds

I've used the fish filet and harvest map addons for years, and (like Necrotech_Master) have 45 addons installed (not counting the 'lib' addons), and have no problems with these addons. I also have only seen the game crash once or maybe twice in the last 3 years I've played it. I don't have the fisherman or resource radar addons installed, though.

ok, but sins it happens on exist i could ignore it, it shouldn't create bigger issues?

different Lib adds are needed to make add-ons work, none of the add work without then

fish filter requiers:
LibAddonMenu
LibCustomMenu

Fisherman:
LibAddonMenu
LibAsync
LibCustomMenu
LibGPS
LibMapPing

Necrotech_Master

does your game crash on exit if you have all the addons disabled? lol

figured it might be something to check, because i highly doubt the problem is addon related still

Sugram22

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

does your game crash on exit if you have all the addons disabled? lol

figured it might be something to check, because i highly doubt the problem is addon related still

no idea sins i have them always on, but to find it out i half to play without mods for long time and then with mods long time sins crash is 2random, it could happen within few days or month or few baste on my exp with my previous rig

but some say to test addon related issues u half to uninstall them sins game still reads them, some issues still happen if mods are just disabled, it limits the issues that may cause it, it means just disabling mite not be enough


but fishing adds i can disable sins i have not been in fishing mood for long time and i can disable harvest map sins i have resource radar, i can at least see if in the area i am is something so i can just randomly harvest something

Sugram22

i remembered something, in old rig there i did not know what caused it neither but i didn't get this issue when i first logged off to log in screen and quit there, this issue exit error happened more often when i clicked on quit new, didn't w8 the exit time to run its course, u know the window u get when u click quit with timer, i hope its same, then i can reduce error files

Sugram22

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

does your game crash on exit if you have all the addons disabled? lol

figured it might be something to check, because i highly doubt the problem is addon related still

dont know what it is but it only happens if i quit game, if i log out back and then quit it doesn't happen, but i think issue is with closing adds or closing game or both

tried quit after a month and right then its the error again

so avoid quit and logging out back and then quit is way to avoid the error

belial5221_ESO

I got all the addons you got and more,except reourceradar.You don't need ResourceRadar,if you got HarvestMap, and a minimap.That can cause issues with them conflicting.Another thing in harvestmap,turn off "Display only nearby map pins",since it'll cause alot of microstuttering,and some lag.Enable all the things under Spawned resources section,and it'll only show things spawned nearby,and reduces lag,clears up map.That should help some.

Make sure video drivers,and windows are updated.Latest d3d11.dll in System32 is 10.0.22621.3672 on win11.

Also like someone said,test turning the addons off,and try a few times,narrow down issue.

Sugram22

belial5221_ESO wrote: »

I got all the addons you got and more,except reourceradar.You don't need ResourceRadar,if you got HarvestMap, and a minimap.That can cause issues with them conflicting.Another thing in harvestmap,turn off "Display only nearby map pins",since it'll cause alot of microstuttering,and some lag.Enable all the things under Spawned resources section,and it'll only show things spawned nearby,and reduces lag,clears up map.That should help some.

Make sure video drivers,and windows are updated.Latest d3d11.dll in System32 is 10.0.22621.3672 on win11.

Also like someone said,test turning the addons off,and try a few times,narrow down issue.

drivers are never the issue here (with thing like that), on old rig i even broke os with keeping it up to date cause nvidia drivers broke os, videos triggered reboot so had to roll back and in my old rig same issue

and currently harvestmap and the fishing adds are disabled i only have recourse radar active form resource connected adds, sins that's lighter version

and i said avoid quit and instead logging out back and then quit is way to avoid the error

not the only1 having this error when quitting to desktop directly from the game with quit option in the game, but most don't talk about it cause the workaround is logoff then click on back and then quit, but i have seen reddit post about it years ago

belial5221_ESO

Try disabling multithread rendering,since it could be causing issues on older CPUs,like my old quad core.In nvidia control panel turn off threaded optimization,since it can cause odd crashes in some games/programs.With games being updated to newer DX versions and 64bit,older systems aren't handling them as well anymore.

Sugram22

belial5221_ESO wrote: »

Try disabling multithread rendering,since it could be causing issues on older CPUs,like my old quad core.In nvidia control panel turn off threaded optimization,since it can cause odd crashes in some games/programs.With games being updated to newer DX versions and 64bit,older systems aren't handling them as well anymore.

well this is new rig, bought it dec last year so almost 2024, i just said in my old rig i had same issue...
its in the lvl of currently existing games

ESO FPS 80-100 even in cyrodiil, 100 if i am not in middle of war where keep's courtyard is full of ppl fighting server full